Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

I must admit i would not usually try this raise but im trying to be more aggressive.... is this wrong when u have pp and a pair hit flop vs 1 (albeit this time it was aces) and his stats read 20/13/0.4.....

How was it played on flop. should a call told me to check turn?, but how passive is this guy



Limit: $2/$4
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: 6.75BB

Re: Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

I play it exactly the same. With a 0.4 aggression factor he is never bluffing this turn.

Re: Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

I think the flop is standard. When you're defending with 33 vs a button steal any paired board is good for you because this guys range opens up quite a bit on the button. The turn is the question here. How many hands do you have on this guy? That's a pretty low AF but turn did put a flush draw on the board. I think that it's a b/f on the turn. He's raising with something so even if you're ahead I think he draws out on you alot and I think he's got the Ace often.

Re: Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

If I c/r the flop I usually just c/f the turn against predictable TAGs and weak players. This guy's stats screams weak tight to me, so my only input is to consider c/f'ing the turn. He is either getting to SD or waiting to raise his trip A's IMO

Re: Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

i have very few hands on him less than 100, how about a preflop reraise here, i was thinking about the flush too but didnt want to spew, his steal is only at 30% so prob had the Ace, on the other hand tho i thought players like him would get excited and reraise that flop, anyway .....

Re: Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

Oink, I just can't see c/fing this turn. A low AF means he calls a lot. I think that you get the money from this guy on the turn. If you check the turn what's your river plan?

Re: Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

Well no one who's 20/13 has a .4 AF. So I'll assume that's sample size issues.

c/r flop lead turn isn't good against this guy. For c/r'ing the flop to be good, he has to fold overs. If he does this, you should check the turn. If he doesn't, then you'd be better off calling, calling a non-K/A/J/T turn, and folding to a river bet.

Re: Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

Leader, Why don't we want to c/r if he'll call with overs? We've still got the best hand if he's got overs so there's still value in a c/r right?

Re: Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

That doesn't look good to me, no one is going to give you credit for an ace no matter how tight they seem so you're just going to get outplayed with this approach. Call the flop and turn then decide on the river. I would also consider three betting preflop here you have decent fold equity against this guy.

Re: Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

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Leader, Why don't we want to c/r if he'll call with overs? We've still got the best hand if he's got overs so there's still value in a c/r right?

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Letting him bluff the turn has value too. In addition, it's hard for us to win the hand if he calls the flop c/r. Do we really want to put in 3BB post flop in this hand? I don't. I want to figure out if I'm behind in the cheapest way possible, get the most value when ahead, and protect our hand as much as possible. If we can't protect our hand being agro, we're just putting bets in worse, and we're leaving ourselves open to a bluff unless we c/r-bet-bet.

Re: Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

It's a difficult situation. I c/c,c/c,c/c - The river c/c is debatable but at worse it isn't horrible.

Re: Protect those blinds 33 hand
 

Turn bet is pretty pointless. I know right before you made it you were like, "Ok now let's get to the point... raise me so I can fold." Why do you think like that? Because it happens all the time after he calls your flop raise.