64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

villan is a 2p2er, i have no idea which. he has jman avatar and the name teh_pwnerer or something like that. i have not played with him before.

hero is taggy and in line at this table. we have not really tangled much, he calls my raises oop sometimes and c/f-es generally, but other than small pot tradeoffs, we have not tangled. he has been playing looser than tag game.

so, start with flop action. opening villan sucked really really bad. 2p2er is the BB.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $200</font>
<font color="black">BB: $389.90</font>
<font color="black">UTG: $192</font>
<font color="black">MP: $107.45</font>
CO: $112.20
<font color="black">BTN: $197</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, CO folds, BTN calls $4, Hero calls $3, BB calls $2

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
Hero ...

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

I dislike preflop - it may seem like you're getting good odds to see a flop, but with a hand this trashy, you aren't going to hit too many like-able flops (other than the one u just hit [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] ). On the flop I'm leading for close to pot.. I think a check here would be baaad for obvious reasons.

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

Bet like $15.

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

You absolutely have to lead. More often than not with this many callers PF you will see it get checked behind.

I'm stacking off in this situation (probably on the turn though), so I'd call any RR and open push on any non heart, non board pairing turn (it should make sense if you get raised to $60-$80 after a $20 lead).

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

Is preflop standard?

I think flop is a check? Seems like a decent spot to wait for a safe turn, so flop getting checked around isnt really terrible, especially because it decreases the chance someone flopped a flush.

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

Preflop is bad. Bet $15 on the flop.

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

c/c flop, donk a non-[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] turn

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

Lead flop. Lets get money from overpairs and flush draws. The Ah has a double draw too, he's going nowhere.

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

i fold pf and pot now

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

this is an easy call preflop if you play decent post flop IMO.

On the flop it depends on stats and how your opponents play (obv) but generally I like to lead here. You want to stack sets/straights/Ah/made-flushes/and maybe 2 pairs right off the bat.

If its checked thru you might have a tough time getting all the money in.. especailly if the turn is a heart (and the Ah never folds the flop bet).

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pot is too much though, I like a $12-$15 bet

if UTG loves to cbet in multiway pots its a perfect time to check though, cause you might trap extra money in the flop and decide to slowplay it if you get multiple callers, or c/r UTG, or c/c him and lead turn. lots of options if this fishy opener is very aggro.

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hero is taggy

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Hero is dealt 4 6

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Hero calls $3,

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so, start with flop action. opening villan sucked really really bad. 2p2er is the BB.



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still bad?

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

I lead pot, pf is ok imo

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

eh, i thought u flopped a straight flush. lolz. now my post looks dumb [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

i decided to check/raise.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $200</font>
<font color="black">BB: $389.90</font>
<font color="black">UTG: $192</font>
<font color="black">MP: $107.45</font>
CO: $112.20
<font color="black">BTN: $197</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, CO folds, BTN calls $4, Hero calls $3, BB calls $2

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $16</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $58</font>, BB calls $42

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($136) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ....

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

I think your toast after that turn.

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

It feels so weak, but i think you have to c/fold here with only 1 PSB left. what hand does a 2p2er lead into a field on a scary flop then call a checkraise, and doesn't have you beat now? Ah would shove the flop, so it's hard to put him on just a flush draw here.

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

but we have outs!

multiple ones!

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

one bump in hopes that 2p2er will see this. teh pwnzerer out yourself!

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

what's ur SN or when did this happen?

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I probably still shove the turn as I think a flopped set or flush is going to get more money in there UNLESS it wasn't the nut flush (like 78s or something) in which case shoving this turn ought to fold it out. also, pf is the nizzles.

blickets!

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

i dunno wtf i was doing on that table, apparently my stats were 41/31 or something
i had 32o, i was prolly tilting and i dont remember playing this hand

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

oI2ange

happend a long time ago. april by the looks of it.

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

yea i found the hand, had to sort by flops and [censored], told u the results in the above post

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I'd c/f turn.

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PS,
no offense, but i think that flop call is pretty nasty. my range in that multiway pot is usually either a flush or set. sometimes 2pair.

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

lol @ both of y'alls preflop play [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img].

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carrot,
i think both of us were on tilt.

Re: 64o flopped straight monotone vs 2p2er
 

orange i dunno what the 'normal' numbers are but i'm (.12) and (.05) from the BB and SB respectively over 45k hands on this DB and that's a pretty standard call for me.

But I'm interested in seeing what other people run from the blinds, I had a couple months where I was positive in the SB even.

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orange i dunno what the 'normal' numbers are but i'm (.12) and (.05) from the BB and SB respectively over 45k hands on this DB and that's a pretty standard call for me.

But I'm interested in seeing what other people run from the blinds, I had a couple months where I was positive in the SB even.

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now i'm (.14) and (.07) over 125k hands

still don't know what that means though (what is average/normal) and i play this type of crap