Anna Wroblewski
 

Anyone know anything about her - she won the $3,000 buy in event 9 at Bellagio after placing 16th in the $2,000 buy in event 7 where she got knocked out by Kathy Liebert.

Pics on CardPlayer here:

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Id fold.

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She limped with aces at the FT and got AQ to shove in. Then she won the tournament and got back to her room in time to pose for a pretty detailed 'ladyboy' video I caught my roomate downloading. Needless to say, I can't put her on a hand.

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Ok I'm gonna leave my usual niche over in B&M to post some comments here. I know Anna and was there yesterday during the $3000 final.

The following is from an email I wrote regarding Anna and the Bellagio as things went down yesterday:

Yesterday the $3000 nl event concluded with Anna W taking a bracelet as probably the youngest woman and 2nd youngest player ever to do so. Anna is 21.

They made a deal for the money with 3 left. As chip leader (about 40% of total chips, ratios about 8:7:4.5) the deal offered by the Bellagio's "formula" put her share at about $225,000. Anna had an entourage of watchers, cheerleaders, and advisors, including myself and several other math/poker book geeks like me. She looked to myself and Stuey an' nem :-) for advice as to what was a truly fair deal. We did a few calculations and gave our advice. The B's formula was within a few thousand of our estimates so we said go for it, that was close enough.

They played from there for the entry into the championship and the bracelet, which Anna wound up winning with class and some damn fine poker playing.

Following the tournament's conclusion it was time to get paid and toke the staff. Anna would have given the staff a token of her appreciation without any encouragement, but she again looked to us for advice, not knowing what was appropriate. When Anna looked directly at me I told her immediately and without hesitation "3-5%." This is the number I have posted on 2+2 before and the number I would toke myself in a major event. A couple more of the boys chimed in and the amount decided upon was $10,000, within the advice of everyone present. The Bellagio staff probably does not get many winners who are so generous as Anna was yesterday. She also tipped about another $2,000 in misc tips before she was done. $12,000, guess she was happy with the Bellagio yesterday. The B did treat her well, for instance every time she was moved they had a chair doubled up in her seat (Anna's petite).

I would like to point out that I have never liked the Bellagio, and have not played there much, nor have I encouraged many others to play there. My reasons are the crowded room and treatment of the players, particularly the "low limit" players (which includes virtually everyone I play poker with).

Yesterday was a refreshing change from what I was used to getting from the B. They treated the players well, and probably more importantly, treated the spectators well. ** They let us watch from the second step and didn't run us off once, despite the room being fairly crowded, and despite the fact this was a major event. This probably made a big difference to the size of the tip Anna left for the staff, because had they run off her cheering section and advice givers (all her friends), I have little doubt she would not have been happy about it. So good job to the B on this one, I guess they earned their money. And even I am going to give the Bellagio a class A rating on this one, good deal.

As for the details of Anna's play, I'm not going to comment too much there, wouldn't want to spoil the fun of everyone who's going to one day be facing Anna across the table. Beware of the double chairs at your new table!

Al_Capone_Junior

**The spectators at last year's WSOP were not treated anything even close to this well (in fact they were treated quite badly if you ask me). From my limited observations of the B's running of a major event they are a billion light years ahead of harrah's and the WSOP

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Anna failed to tip the media- not expected but always appreciated. Guys like jc tran and greenstien never fail in looking out. Most of us work 15 hour days at less then $10 an hour to bring coverage to everyone.

Btw I Liked Anna a Lot and thought she was a great winner

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I sat next to her at a 1-2 no limit game at Caesar's Palace on 4/5/07. I knew within a few minutes that she is a solid player. She is a maniac which is a good style if you know what you are doing, which she did. She was very friendly. She told me that she knows a couple pros personally. I am very happy for her that she won a big tourney because now she can afford to play above 1-2 again.

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Anna failed to tip the media- not expected but always appreciated. Guys like jc tran and greenstien never fail in looking out. Most of us work 15 hour days at less then $10 an hour to bring coverage to everyone.

Btw I Liked Anna a Lot and thought she was a great winner

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wow, it never occurred to me that the media would take tips. who would you give the money to? tip every reporter individually?

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Anna failed to tip the media-

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Lol. [censored] parasites.

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I think any reporter who accepts money from a player should be fired and blacklisted. Then again known plagiarists aren't even fired in what passes for "media" in the poker world. *Gulp* I've never been leveled before I hope this isn't it.

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I think any reporter who accepts money from a player should be fired and blacklisted. Then again known plagiarists aren't even fired in what passes for "media" in the poker world. *Gulp* I've never been leveled before I hope this isn't it.

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You're not being leveled, and I don't agree with your sentiment. There's at least a vague tradition of tournament winners tipping out certain members of the media, but it's not quite as standard as dealer/floor tokes.

Also, the poker media mostly exists to promote the game of poker itself in a biased/favorable way, and it doesn't have to live up to the same objective standards of the mass media, so save the righteous indignation...when a player who won the event tips a reporter/photographer, it's usually just a token of gratitude resulting from a bond that one tends to form throughout the course of the long, big tournament--it's a nice, but also relatively insignificant gesture. The reporters are working for you in a way just like the dealers and floorman are. Everyone has his own tipping policy, but tips to the media are certainly not unheard-of, nor are they unethical.

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I hae no clue that it was semicommon to tip the media...actually, I have never even heard of it until now. I played with anna at the final table of the $2000 event and also early in the $3000 event. She is pretty much a calling station that cant fold any pair...Early in the $3000 event, the called a pot bet on the flop and the turn vs Vinny Vihn on a Q9862 board with 33. It was wild. Hopefully she is at my table in the $25,000 event.

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Anna tipped 12K out of her winnings not because of the advice of her friends but out of the goodness of her heart. I had never heard of tipping the media and neither had anyone in Anna's group of friends, so I don't think we can hold that against her.

In addition, CP got a number of things wrong. Anna asked me to post a few corrections here:

Actually, she did not use her pay check---(her paycheck was $150). She had told me she was given $400 to play by a friend who told her if she lost it would not matter. She took the $400 and won $600 playing 15/30. Then the next day used $230 of it to win a satellite to the 2K tournament.

She also entered in a last longer for $100, which she ended up winning ($400). When she had won 16th she gave back the 400 + 1400 to her friend who gave her the
$400 to play with.

Also I explained the deal that was made in my post yesterday. Why CP did not report the winnings correctly I'm not sure.

Just thought I should straighten up some things.

Al

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No poker media can report deals. They are invited guests of the casinos and get the boot if they do, it sucks and I personally disagree with it.

Anna was a great winner and from what I could tell a cool person. This thread should be about her victory and her play. It's clear she's a very giving person, and Im sorry to insinuate otherwise. She is one of the few players at final tables that was having fun, something that poker misses sorely.

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I'm sure writers taking money from people they write about is quite common, despite any ramifications orimplications. But you'd hope they at least got the details right. No offense to Anna or any of CP's subjects, but that magazine is really useful when your birdcage needs new liner. It's the people magazine of poker. People works great in your birdcage too.

Al

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Ok I wasn't aware no deal reporting was allowed. Who knows what ignorance and stupidity is behind that nonsense. Seems the media also isn't allowed to report generous tips given by the players.

And you are right, Anna is a cool person. She's a refreshing exception from the norm. Pro or high limit poker players are mostly a bunch of total jerks, my estimate is 10:1 jerks to "other.". Gee, seems there's something else that never gets reported, otherwise we wouldn't have such jerks (chan, farha etc) on the covers of all these crappy poker magazines.

I prefer telling it like it is. Guess CP won't be calling me for that open reporter position.

Al

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The problem with the poker media is that they report in a bias/favorable way, but their words are presented as if they are truthful and correct, which of course is far from reality.

Al

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As I said I won't be discussing much as far as hands/strategy in this thread. But I can chuckle to myself when I read other people's posts.

Al

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The problem with the poker media is that they report in a bias/favorable way, but their words are presented as if they are truthful and correct, which of course is far from reality.

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I would agree with that. The problem is there seems to be a disconnect between factual poker reporting (objective) and the marketing and promotion of the "poker lifestyle" (subjective). Media like Cardplayer, Bluff, and Pokerwire need to decide if they want to step up and become the leader of live results tracking hand analysis ect. There is a big question on how much of a market there actually is for those services especially because they are expensive to provide properly. Joe public in Mississippi doesn’t care about the some of the stories that go on with "unknowns" in the tournament circuit. He wants to see pictures and stories about the people he sees on TV. I’m not making a value judgment either way but it must be considered in framing and understanding the poker media as a whole.

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Anna failed to tip the media- not expected but always appreciated. Guys like jc tran and greenstien never fail in looking out. Most of us work 15 hour days at less then $10 an hour to bring coverage to everyone.

Btw I Liked Anna a Lot and thought she was a great winner

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I've never been tipped. I think you made a mistake in even mentioning it here.

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Anna failed to tip the media- not expected but always appreciated. Guys like jc tran and greenstien never fail in looking out. Most of us work 15 hour days at less then $10 an hour to bring coverage to everyone.

Btw I Liked Anna a Lot and thought she was a great winner

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I've never been tipped. I think you made a mistake in even mentioning it here.

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I would agree. Im not well versed in the policies and practices established since the boom. I shouldn’t have posted about it here.

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Are you her press agent?

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I think any reporter who accepts money from a
You're not being leveled, and I don't agree with your sentiment. There's at least a vague tradition of tournament winners tipping out certain members of the media, but it's not quite as standard as dealer/floor tokes.

Also, the poker media mostly exists to promote the game of poker itself in a biased/favorable way, and it doesn't have to live up to the same objective standards of the mass media, so save the righteous indignation...when a player who won the event tips a reporter/photographer, it's usually just a token of gratitude resulting from a bond that one tends to form throughout the course of the long, big tournament--it's a nice, but also relatively insignificant gesture. The reporters are working for you in a way just like the dealers and floorman are. Everyone has his own tipping policy, but tips to the media are certainly not unheard-of, nor are they unethical.

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player should be fired and blacklisted. Then again known plagiarists aren't even fired in what passes for "media" in the poker world. *Gulp* I've never been leveled before I hope this isn't it.

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Tech/strassa2, I'm still accepting tips if you feel guilty for not tipping the poker media during the ME. I'd hate for you to feel bad...

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I hae no clue that it was semicommon to tip the media...actually, I have never even heard of it until now. I played with anna at the final table of the $2000 event and also early in the $3000 event. She is pretty much a calling station that cant fold any pair...Early in the $3000 event, the called a pot bet on the flop and the turn vs Vinny Vihn on a Q9862 board with 33. It was wild. Hopefully she is at my table in the $25,000 event.

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I know it's not the textbook way to play, but if you're born with*/learn the ability to know when ppl are lying to u, calling down with 33 is a solid play. I know you could raise, but that's a higher variance play. Calling down is deceptive and screws with ppl's head in a metagame way.

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Anna failed to tip the media- not expected but always appreciated. Guys like jc tran and greenstien never fail in looking out. Most of us work 15 hour days at less then $10 an hour to bring coverage to everyone.

Btw I Liked Anna a Lot and thought she was a great winner

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I heard that she also failed to tip the railbirds. Can anyone confirm that by reading the poker media?

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Anna failed to tip the media- not expected but always appreciated. Guys like jc tran and greenstien never fail in looking out. Most of us work 15 hour days at less then $10 an hour to bring coverage to everyone.

Btw I Liked Anna a Lot and thought she was a great winner

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Barry also used to give all his tourney winnings to charity. Do you call out players who don't do that?

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I'm a dealer and I've dealt to Anna quite a bit. REally a nice, down-to-earth person. My impression of her game is a lot of the players are generally intimidated to play a pot with her. Quick story.

I remember coming into my shift, it was a Monday Morning and I saw Anna with about 1K in front of her. I go into the box and half way through Anna gets involved with a loud-mouth "know it all" who talked a big game, but didn't have the game to back it up. It was 1-2 NL. Anna makes a small raise of 10, called by two players, then this "Know it all" (KIA) re-pops for 45....all fold to Anna who calls. Other two players muck so it's heads up. The flop comes 9 K J. Anna checks. "KIA" bets 75..Anna calls rather quickly. Turns comes J of diamonds. There was another diamond so it put two diamonds. Anna comes betting 75, "KIA" goes all in for about 200 total. Anna thinks for a long time then calls. River brings a K, bring the final board (9KJJK). KIA has pocket 3's. Anna has Q8 diamonds!! So the Queen played!! KIA went ballistic basically calling Anna the worst player he's ever seen. Anna showed a lot of class by not answering back as she raked in a huge pot.

A few hands later, Anna left the table for a moment. The rest of the players started berated Anna saying, "Don't worry she'll give everything back. She's the worst..blah Blah!!! Another 3 hrs later, she finally cashed out for about 2300!! She busted a few of the loud mouths along the way. GOOD STUFF! I remember telling Anna as she was cashing out how she had that entire table in the palm of her hands. She gave this sly grin as if to say..."I know"

I really happy for Anna's accomplishment...she should be very proud of herself.

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So long story short, she will likely be waitressing again some time soon?

(I couldn't resist. I just don't see how she played that hand well. She is clearly a high-variance player.)

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I'm a dealer and I've dealt to Anna quite a bit. REally a nice, down-to-earth person. My impression of her game is a lot of the players are generally intimidated to play a pot with her. Quick story.

I remember coming into my shift, it was a Monday Morning and I saw Anna with about 1K in front of her. I go into the box and half way through Anna gets involved with a loud-mouth "know it all" who talked a big game, but didn't have the game to back it up. It was 1-2 NL. Anna makes a small raise of 10, called by two players, then this "Know it all" (KIA) re-pops for 45....all fold to Anna who calls. Other two players muck so it's heads up. The flop comes 9 K J. Anna checks. "KIA" bets 75..Anna calls rather quickly. Turns comes J of diamonds. There was another diamond so it put two diamonds. Anna comes betting 75, "KIA" goes all in for about 200 total. Anna thinks for a long time then calls. River brings a K, bring the final board (9KJJK). KIA has pocket 3's. Anna has Q8 diamonds!! So the Queen played!! KIA went ballistic basically calling Anna the worst player he's ever seen. Anna showed a lot of class by not answering back as she raked in a huge pot.

A few hands later, Anna left the table for a moment. The rest of the players started berated Anna saying, "Don't worry she'll give everything back. She's the worst..blah Blah!!! Another 3 hrs later, she finally cashed out for about 2300!! She busted a few of the loud mouths along the way. GOOD STUFF! I remember telling Anna as she was cashing out how she had that entire table in the palm of her hands. She gave this sly grin as if to say..."I know"

I really happy for Anna's accomplishment...she should be very proud of herself.

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I don't get it. She called $125 into a $525 pot with 16 outs, but thats only if she can put him exactly on an underpair. Anything else and she is drawing to few or no outs. Not to mention that she played the rest of the hand pretty attrociously.

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lol. she reminds me of those players i see at the casino who is capable of getting a huge stack fast in NL200 just by gambling with draws and calling with pairs. but most days they lose their money.

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I'm a dealer and I've dealt to Anna quite a bit. REally a nice, down-to-earth person. My impression of her game is a lot of the players are generally intimidated to play a pot with her. Quick story.

I remember coming into my shift, it was a Monday Morning and I saw Anna with about 1K in front of her. I go into the box and half way through Anna gets involved with a loud-mouth "know it all" who talked a big game, but didn't have the game to back it up. It was 1-2 NL. Anna makes a small raise of 10, called by two players, then this "Know it all" (KIA) re-pops for 45....all fold to Anna who calls. Other two players muck so it's heads up. The flop comes 9 K J. Anna checks. "KIA" bets 75..Anna calls rather quickly. Turns comes J of diamonds. There was another diamond so it put two diamonds. Anna comes betting 75, "KIA" goes all in for about 200 total. Anna thinks for a long time then calls. River brings a K, bring the final board (9KJJK). KIA has pocket 3's. Anna has Q8 diamonds!! So the Queen played!! KIA went ballistic basically calling Anna the worst player he's ever seen. Anna showed a lot of class by not answering back as she raked in a huge pot.

A few hands later, Anna left the table for a moment. The rest of the players started berated Anna saying, "Don't worry she'll give everything back. She's the worst..blah Blah!!! Another 3 hrs later, she finally cashed out for about 2300!! She busted a few of the loud mouths along the way. GOOD STUFF! I remember telling Anna as she was cashing out how she had that entire table in the palm of her hands. She gave this sly grin as if to say..."I know"

I really happy for Anna's accomplishment...she should be very proud of herself.

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cliff notes: nice girl but huge degenerate, busto to come soon

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lol at "tipping the media". "not expected but always appreciated" - LOLOLOL

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she's no degen

she was playing 5-10 NL with ~1k at caesars last night so obviously she's not going to donk it all off asap

seemed like a smart sensible person well aware of how lucky she is

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she's no degen

she was playing 5-10 NL with ~1k at caesars last night so obviously she's not going to donk it all off asap

seemed like a smart sensible person well aware of how lucky she is

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before the 3k event her main game was ballys 1/2 and she was almost completely busto

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I think any reporter who accepts money from a player should be fired and blacklisted. Then again known plagiarists aren't even fired in what passes for "media" in the poker world. *Gulp* I've never been leveled before I hope this isn't it.

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You're not being leveled, and I don't agree with your sentiment. There's at least a vague tradition of tournament winners tipping out certain members of the media, but it's not quite as standard as dealer/floor tokes.

Also, the poker media mostly exists to promote the game of poker itself in a biased/favorable way, and it doesn't have to live up to the same objective standards of the mass media, so save the righteous indignation...when a player who won the event tips a reporter/photographer, it's usually just a token of gratitude resulting from a bond that one tends to form throughout the course of the long, big tournament--it's a nice, but also relatively insignificant gesture. The reporters are working for you in a way just like the dealers and floorman are. Everyone has his own tipping policy, but tips to the media are certainly not unheard-of, nor are they unethical.

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That must be why the cops get such bad press. They never tip the media.

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I think any reporter who accepts money from a player should be fired and blacklisted. Then again known plagiarists aren't even fired in what passes for "media" in the poker world. *Gulp* I've never been leveled before I hope this isn't it.

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You're not being leveled, and I don't agree with your sentiment. There's at least a vague tradition of tournament winners tipping out certain members of the media, but it's not quite as standard as dealer/floor tokes.

Also, the poker media mostly exists to promote the game of poker itself in a biased/favorable way, and it doesn't have to live up to the same objective standards of the mass media, so save the righteous indignation...when a player who won the event tips a reporter/photographer, it's usually just a token of gratitude resulting from a bond that one tends to form throughout the course of the long, big tournament--it's a nice, but also relatively insignificant gesture. The reporters are working for you in a way just like the dealers and floorman are. Everyone has his own tipping policy, but tips to the media are certainly not unheard-of, nor are they unethical.

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there's no righteous indignation there.

of course tipping the media is UNethical. just because some writers take the money doesn't make it correct.

if "everyone does it" is the benchmark for right and wrong then nothing would improve.

anyone accepting tips from players (or expecting them) works in marketing, not reporting.

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The kicker for me was the vid up on cardplayer when she does the *shrug* "I two-outted Barry Greenstein" face. I think the WPT site has a vid-blog saying that she was broke up until her preliminary win. Who knows, but i'm gonna have a fun time watching.

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Yeah, I can see it now. "Thanks so much for twisting the truth, reporting complete falsehoods, and consistently putting jerkoffs like chan and farha on the cover of your crappy magazines and making them smell like roses. Here's a thousand bucks."

When pigs friggin' fly.

Besides there's far more of a tradition of being a total jerk the entire tournament, then stiffing everyone.

Then cardplayer puts them on the cover and makes them out to be real nice folks.

I couldn't report for such a publication. It's the people magazine for poker players. Except people magazine SUCKS.

Al

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I'm not sure I'm reading you right but it seems you're seeing only the negatives in Anna's success.

Let me just ask you this:

What really matters most? That she sucked out on greenstein? That she was broke at one time? (Who hasn't been broke before, let alone at 21?)

Or that she's a young girl who's happy, doing well, having good fortune and living life and loving it?

If all that matters are the negatives and the dirt and the skeletons in the closet then I feel sorry for you. Perhaps you should watch Anna to learn something about life, not poker

Al

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Pretty much, I think most people here dont like it when a random lucksack appears and people start thinking they are the greatest person alive. Lets be serious...can anyone who tips 5% on top of the redic vig actually be a winning player? Can someone who goes busto and then buys into a sat for their bankroll be a winning player? What makes someone a good person? Lucksacking a big name pro then laughing about it on tv? You say everyone has been broke at some point...I know a ton of poker players that have never been broke and probably never will be simply because they arent retarded. If you should be (edited) about their success at the bellagio mtts, its clearly thewacokidd. Other than that, no one has done anything that impressive.