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sence25 04-17-2007 10:20 AM

16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP2 (t1270)
CO (t1450)
Button (t1330)
SB (t1430)
BB (t2570)
UTG (t1480)
Hero (t2330)
MP1 (t1640)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t30, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t90</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t280</font>, BB calls t190.

Turn: (t635) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t120</font>, Hero calls t120.

River: (t875) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t300</font>, Hero calls t300.

Final Pot: t1475

What do you think about openlimping?
Reraise flopbet ok?
Call river ok? Should i reraise there?
Didn't want to lose my whole stack to a flush there.

Seeeno 04-17-2007 10:27 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
I open limp here everytime. Headsup with an overpair I like your flop Raise. I would shut down on the Turn, but I really dont know what I would to facing thesse 1/6 pot bet [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I just dont know what do to ... I think this is a Flushdraw trying to buy a freecard. If this is true pushing would be best but ... Im not sure if my "read" is good.

I would just call the river. Sad but true. I can't see much hands that will be worse but still call, or better that will fold.

PTB 04-17-2007 10:28 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
pf is fine, i usually limp this pf for set value, but when you are only in with the BB it changes a little. raising pf is also ok
the flop and the turn look ok
on the river i would probably value bet without being afreid of the flush

Burno 04-17-2007 10:30 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
Open limping is fine. Raising is fine. Folding sucks!

I used to raise the flop like this every time. But I've taken to calling a lot more now. I'm not sure I'd be too pleased to get it AI here, and I really don't want to bloat the pot with a very vulnerable overpair when I'm not sure where I stand since BB can be on ATC. Plus, the majority of the deck sucks for you on the turn.

Given his line,(pricing himself in on the turn and then river bet size) I'm just calling the river as well.

Kibby 04-17-2007 10:33 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
I actually don't mind this line. The turn bet is confusing. I might raise it up depending on my mood.

RexWoo 04-17-2007 10:37 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
I play it the same readless. If the player is a little bit serious, I fold on the river.

mortimo 04-17-2007 10:38 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
raise preflop..I like 3,5x
I like a re-raise to about t250 on the flop..
not sure about turn, but I think I would bet around t450
call river, as played

malnek 04-17-2007 11:04 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
nh i play this the same

kongo_totte 04-17-2007 11:13 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
I'd call flop and take it from there. If he has a strong draw, he may 3-bet all in to your raise which would suck, cause you can't call.

Burno 04-17-2007 11:16 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
All,

Curiosity since I seem to be in the minority here.


What's your plan if he shoves over your raise?

Kibby 04-17-2007 11:23 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
Shove over your raise on the flop? I'm calling and fire up a new one if it doesn't work out.

sence25 04-17-2007 11:32 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
i would have called a shove..
if he flushes me down, so be it.

RexWoo 04-17-2007 11:54 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
[ QUOTE ]
All,

Curiosity since I seem to be in the minority here.


What's your plan if he shoves over your raise?

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I would call really fast.

McDirk 04-17-2007 11:57 AM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
Preflop - open limp is fine, best move in early position. No reason to create a big pot before you have a set or possibly an overpair. Plus many players at this level expect you to raise with tens here (because that's what they'd do) and so they may underestimate your holding.

Flop: You caught an overpair to the board, and the BB woke up and made a bet that was bigger than the pot. You almost certainly have the best hand here. He was on ATC preflop, but if he caught two pair/set/straight on the flop, why would he lead out for such a large amount? Most players when they catch a big hand like this go for a check-raise or a smaller flop bet. I would put him on a weak pair, likely with some sort of flush or straight draw. Anyway, you most likely have the best hand, should bet it, and I like the size of your raise. If he decides to push in over me here I'd reconsider all of the above and fold, figuring he had something like 85 and that even if I were wrong and he's on a draw that there's much better spots at this level to get all of my chips in.

Turn looks like a blocking bet to me, but I'd just call it along with the smallish bet on the river. No reason to bloat the pot with a raise on either, and you're ahead of something like K9 often enough to call the river.

RRizGod 04-17-2007 12:09 PM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
am i missing something? You have a straight on the river. SHIP IT IN

sence25 04-17-2007 12:46 PM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
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am i missing something? You have a straight on the river. SHIP IT IN

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i know, but the flush has arrived as well ...
wasn't sure, who would shove this one?
guess there is no weaker hand calling.

ger664 04-17-2007 01:20 PM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
Judging by the way villian played this hand I would but him on a pair of 77/66 before a flush. So shoving the river is probably correct.

I would have shoved his weak bet on the turn especially with the OED.

flyangler 04-17-2007 11:02 PM

Re: 16$ - TT early, am i a callingstation?
 
[ QUOTE ]
nh i play this the same

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