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MEbenhoe 02-15-2006 06:12 PM

Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
This thread is for those involved in the Fantasy Baseball Keeper League started by Bugstud last year. We're about a month and a half away so I figured I'd start one.

I don't honestly remember 100% who was in this league last year. I'm sure Bugstud has the list.

If there's anyone who was in last year that won't be coming back please let us know so we can find a replacement. Other than that, lets get the ball rolling so we can pick a draft date, etc.

Roll Call, whos in?

sublime 02-15-2006 06:31 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
i wasnt, but would like to be if there is a team opening.

Joe Tall 02-15-2006 06:36 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
I wan't either but if you want to remove a dead team, I'm in.

bugstud 02-15-2006 06:38 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
lemme find the yahoo ids

me
mebenhoe
huskiez
jonramz (ftball000 Ithink?)
craig
doughhater
nolanfan34
willmagic
b00t
Joe Tall

guys who I don't remember

grev79 - Webbogglers
captmisery - black and blue sox
ganeesee - Carne Asada
cagolf03 - Snuffys

Caldarooni 02-15-2006 06:40 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
I was ganeesee, but yahoo cancelled my account.

Pretty [censored].

I would replace my team with my new id.

bugstud 02-15-2006 06:45 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
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I was ganeesee, but yahoo cancelled my account.

Pretty [censored].

I would replace my team with my new id.

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that's fine.

Huskiez 02-15-2006 06:51 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
All,

Ready to defend my title.

MEbenhoe 02-15-2006 06:52 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
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I wan't either but if you want to remove a dead team, I'm in.

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actually I'm pretty sure you were in and just forgot about your team last year [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

MEbenhoe 02-15-2006 06:53 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
bugstud,

you have all the rosters saved from last year right?

bugstud 02-15-2006 06:54 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
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bugstud,

you have all the rosters saved from last year right?

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yessir, I'll post them when I am not trying to play and read

Joe Tall 02-15-2006 07:20 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
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I wan't either but if you want to remove a dead team, I'm in.

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actually I'm pretty sure you were in and just forgot about your team last year [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Opps [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img], now I do remember. I don't see a team under My Yahoo, how does the keeper work then?

I do remember being very turned off by a number of dead teams. Anyway to get rid of the dead beat owners? As soon as there is a dead beat owner I lose interest as the league is basically a mockery.

James282 02-15-2006 07:37 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
I was the webogglers and have no interest in playing this year.
-James

nolanfan34 02-15-2006 08:15 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
I'm out, someone can take my team.

johnnybeef 02-15-2006 08:48 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
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I'm out, someone can take my team.

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I'll take it. Considering my bold Steelers prediction, you guys may want some de3ad money in the pool.

Caldarooni 02-15-2006 08:53 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
I changed my mind and I'm out. No sense putting money into a bad team.

THAY3R 02-15-2006 08:56 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
With so many dead teams how about we start over with a keeper auction league?

pryor15 02-15-2006 09:00 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
depending on the setup, i may be up for a team.

bugstud 02-15-2006 09:10 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
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With so many dead teams how about we start over with a keeper auction league?

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if you can find reliable auction draft software, I am sooooo down for one.

Caldarooni 02-15-2006 09:11 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
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With so many dead teams how about we start over with a keeper auction league?

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if you can find reliable auction draft software, I am sooooo down for one.

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THAY3R 02-15-2006 09:30 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
What about doing one in a chat room?

sublime 02-15-2006 09:56 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
[ QUOTE ]
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With so many dead teams how about we start over with a keeper auction league?

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if you can find reliable auction draft software, I am sooooo down for one.

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what do you guys think of this site/software? gameday

also, the way to lower dormancy is probably to increse the cost of entrance fee/prize pool....no?

bugstud 02-15-2006 10:06 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
that looks impressive

Huskiez 02-15-2006 10:06 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
Disclaimer: I am slightly biased because I really like my team and the keepers I would have.

UCF: We should wait to see how many teams are dead before scrapping the league altogether. Clearly there has been enough interest to do multiple leagues as evidenced by your fantasy baseball thread a month ago.

bugstud: One possible idea is to pool all the players on the dead teams together and have replacement managers draft out of that player pool for the first five rounds.

Caldarooni: Did you just say you don't want to play this year because your team is bad, but that you would want to do a different keeper league?

sublime: I would be all for a higher cost of entrance, etc. if we can get good managers who will stay in the league, even if their team isn't as good as they imagined. What is the point of a keeper league if you can drop out cause your team sucks?

bugstud 02-15-2006 10:17 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
v good points. I think with 5 keepers most teams shouldn't suck.

any ideas on convienent roster posting methods?

sublime 02-15-2006 10:30 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
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that looks impressive

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i agree. takes it to a new level.

Caldarooni 02-15-2006 10:34 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
About a month into last season Yahoo dropped my account. I couldn't access my team. It doesn't make a lot of sense for me to continue to invest in a team that I hadn't touched almost all season in a league where most would not be back. It would be a different story if I was the only team holding out.

However, I love fantasy baseball and would like to continue to play. I am also in favor of a higher buyin.

-Calda

MEbenhoe 02-15-2006 10:54 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
This whole thread went gay on me.

sublime 02-15-2006 11:09 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
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This whole thread went gay on me.

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http://v9.indiewire.com/ots/brokeback.jpg

roundmound 02-15-2006 11:15 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
Id be down, the buy in doesn't need to be huge, just have it carry over for future years. IE, 75 percent of the buy in is for this year, 25 percent for next year. Then next year you do the same thing. If people leave they lose their money unless they get someone to fill in for them and pay them.

ftball0000 02-15-2006 11:53 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
I'm here and back for more (jonramz)

-Ftball

Jim Kuhn 02-16-2006 12:36 AM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
I would be interested in a keeper and/or non keeper league. Bugstud - are you also planning a non keeper league like last year? If not, how much work was involved in running the league?

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u
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bugstud 02-16-2006 12:40 AM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
it didn't take too much effort for non keeper. as you can see, keeper is a pain in the ass [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I might run a set of non keepers, I really dunno right now.

craig 02-16-2006 01:15 AM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
I am definitely still in. Just post here once we decide price and what not.

craig

MEbenhoe 02-16-2006 01:46 AM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
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also, the way to lower dormancy is probably to increse the cost of entrance fee/prize pool....no?

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I thought the $50 entry fee was a good size last year [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

doughhater 02-16-2006 02:12 AM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
Im still in. Im also down for more leagues with higher entry fees.

westside8 02-16-2006 02:22 AM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
If there are new leagues (or dead teams), I'll be interested but to a certain about of buy-in. $50 or so is max for me, and ideally I prefer a fresh start.

Joe Tall 02-16-2006 12:16 PM

Re: Official Bugstud\'s 2+2 Fantasy Baseball Keeper League roll call
 
Every single 2+2 league that I've been involved in has always been full of false promises by owners. There has always been a number of dead teams at the $30-$50 levels. I, for one, lose interest instantly there is some clown with three IR/DL players in their active lineup. Such owners make a mockery of the league for the begining.

I feel upwards of a $150+ fee and move the league to CBS.sportsline where we can custom build the rules would be the best answer for this.

Joe Tall 02-16-2006 12:20 PM

A league structure a friend and I built
 
Scoring:
Will be conducted on a traditional 5x5 format
The 5 offensive categories are: HR, RBI, Runs, AVG, SB
The 5 Pitching categories are: ERA, WHIP, K, Wins, Saves

Lineups:
Line-ups will be changed on a weekly basis only; and the week begins with Monday games and ends with Sunday games..
Starting line-ups will be configured as follows:
C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, OF, OF, OF, UTIL, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, RP, RP

Draft:
Draft will be conducted live online on Tuesday March 30th at 9:00pm Et on the league home page.
Draft will be 21 rounds with a maximum of 90 seconds between picks.
Draft Order is determined by last year’s standings, and is available on the league homepage.

Finances:
Cost of each team is $150, and the prize breakdown is as follows:
$150 for each of the two division winners
$100 for each of the four teams that earns a wildcard birth
$200 for each of the two teams that wins the pennant
$400 for the team that wins the World Series
$50 for each division leader at the All Star break.
$20 weekly (weeks 1-20) for the team that with the highest score. If tied, it carries over to the next week until there is a winner. If tied the last week, those teams tied will split the pot.
Note that all money will go back into league prizes with the exception of the $120 sportsline fee. Also, there are no transaction fees. One payment of $150 for the season.

Format:
League will be head-to-head meaning you will go up against 1 team each week. You will get a win or loss in each of the 10 categories depending on how you faired against your opponent in each category. The best possible score you can earn in a week is 10-0 if you win every category, and 0-10 if you lose every category. It is possible and likely to tie in certain categories each week, so a score such as 5-3-2 is not uncommon for a weekly matchup. Note that for the weekly high scorer however, you will be going up against all 14 teams.

Playoffs:
Each of the 2 division winners will receive playoff spots
Additionally, 2 wildcard teams from each division will receive playoff spots as well.
In the event two teams are tied and vying for a playoff spot, the tiebreaker will be cumulative head-to-head record. If still tied, it moves to division record).
Playoffs will be conducted as follows:
In week 24, the two wildcard teams from each division will play a one week matchup to determine who will play the division winner in the LCS
In week 25, the ALCS and NLCS will be played, with the winner of each advancing to the World Series
In week 26 the World Series will be played, with the winner being crowned Old Bastard Baseball World Champion.
In the event a playoff match-up ends in a tie, the team with the lowest ERA gets the win. If still tied, it moves to AVG, then Wins, Then RBI, Then K’s, then HR, then WHIP, then Runs, Then Saves, then SB.

Transactions:
Trades can be completed between 2 teams at any time up until the August 31st.
Trades are open to a league approval process. 4 of 14 teams voting against a trade will cancel the trade.
Waivers will be handled automatically thru the web site based on record.

Keeper League Rules
This league will allow a maximum four-players to sign to new contracts after each season.
You may keep a maximum of two hitters and two pitchers each season.
You must declare your keeper players within one week of the end of the (MLB) World Series, or forfeit the rights to all players on your roster not already under contract.
You may carry over a maximum one player drafted in rounds 1-5, two players drafted in rounds 1-10 (adhering to one player in round 1-5 rule), and a maximum of four players total.
Once you have kept a player, you own his contract until it expires. You will not need to use one of your keeper spots on him again the following year. Contract lengths will run as follows:
1st round pick = 1 year contract
2nd round pick = 1 year contract
3rd round pick = 1 year contract
4th round pick = 1 year contract
5th round pick = 1 year contract
6th round pick = 2 year contract
7th round pick = 2 year contract
8th round pick = 2 year contract
9th round pick = 2 year contract
10th round pick= 2 year contract
11th round pick= 3 year contract
12th round pick= 3 year contract
13th round pick= 3 year contract
14th round pick= 3 year contract
15th round pick= 3 year contract
16th round pick= 4 year contract
17th round pick= 4 year contract
18th round pick= 4 year contract
19th round pick= 4 year contract
20th round pick= 4 year contract
21st round pick= 5 year contract
22nd round pick= 5 year contract
23rd round pick= 5 year contract
24th round pick= 5 year contract
25th round pick= 5 year contract
An undrafted player claimed off waivers will have the same value as a last round pick.

If you trade a player, his contract goes with him. If you release a player under contract, his contract is voided and he is a free agent. However, if you release a player you drafted, who is not under contract, if another owner claims him that season he retains his original drafted value. If unclaimed for the remainder of season, he goes back into the free agent pool for the next season’s draft.
Add/drop is frozen once the playoffs begin. It does not re-open until after the draft the following season.
Trades are frozen after the August 31st deadline, and do not re-open until after the World Series when the keeper rosters have been made public. Trades made during the off-season to be conducted via email, and not thru the sportsline web site.

Caldarooni 02-16-2006 12:50 PM

Re: A league structure a friend and I built
 
Joe,

I'm unclear whether this is a copy/paste from cbssportsline or if this is all you.

And if it is, you rock for taking the time.

-Calda

Joe Tall 02-16-2006 01:24 PM

Re: A league structure a friend and I built
 
[ QUOTE ]
Joe,

I'm unclear whether this is a copy/paste from cbssportsline or if this is all you.

And if it is, you rock for taking the time.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's a cut/paste from a word document of the league I designed with a friend. We are in our 5th year now and it really is an amazing league. We have a similar system set up for Football too. The trading of contracts and draft picks is the greatest for teams that are out of it and teams that are gearing up to go for it.

Good stuff.


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