why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

SB is a fish who I've been playing heads up with for like 30 hands. I have him running at 47/16/.55 from this session (and some 1/2) over 150 hands.

This is BB's very first hand at the table. I have him running at 31/22/2.2 over like 240 hands (mostly .75/1.5). I don't really remember to much about him othen than that I recognized his name.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1.50/$3 Blinds
3 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
<u>SB: $649</u>
<font color="black">BB: $600</font>
<u>Hero (BTN): $497.40</u>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.50, 3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $10.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $25</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $70</font>, Hero calls $59.50, SB calls $45

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($210, 3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $100</font>, Hero calls $100, SB calls $100

<font color="black">Turn:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($510, 3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero does what?

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

Why not shove the flop? As played I'd just shove the turn because you're not getting away from this hand

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

check and pray for a K?

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

I think checking is good, this deep.

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

its kinda deep to be playing KK as the nuts imo shp not to mention the fact that everyone is in the hand but i dont have much experience with a game like this.

pretty crazy hand man. SB is playing like a moron is my assumption and really screwing the hand up.

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

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its kinda deep to be playing KK as the nuts imo shp not to mention the fact that everyone is in the hand but i dont have much experience with a game like this.


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Playing at a "deep" table is alot different then playing deepstacked at a regular table. At these tables 200bbs is still just 1 buy-in and people regularly stack off.

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

deep? its 166BB, w/e.

BB is obv agg, SB is a clown.

shove the flop

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

ike,

As played do you shove the turn?

Also,

who likes a reraise pf?

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

reraise pf (b/c its multiway pf)
check behind turn (pot control)

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

Who is the BB?

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

Raise preflop? Raise flop?
Check turn a lot of draws just got there, keeping the pot small at this point is good IMO.

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

BB is bejesus.

As for pot control, I only have ~2/3 pot behind.

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

bump

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

I play PF/flop the same, check behind turn, and evaluate river. I'd definitely consider folding to a river shove. Villain is pretty solid from what I know of him, and I don't think he's ever value shoving QQ and I can't see him bluffing that often either.

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

why not shove turn? i think its a good play to make the draws pay if they want to draw. flush draw and straight draw out there now, plus an ace could come or a two outer to beat you. i could see him maybe checking JJ if he thought you were aggressive enough to bet it, but i don't dislike shoving turn at all.

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

I shoved the turn, thoughts?

Re: why oh why do i do this to myself?
 

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I shoved the turn, thoughts?

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pretty bad IMO. I just don't see a reason to play it like this. I think it's pretty likely SB had some draw or JTs hand possibly. BB looks like AK/QQ to me?