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O Fen�meno 04-09-2007 08:10 PM

hsp tonight 4/9
 
Is this week a new episode?

Kevmath 04-09-2007 09:00 PM

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Tonight's the season finale of HSP.

Sense1ess 04-09-2007 09:07 PM

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Wow that DN sandwich speech is the worst start to a HSP episode ever.

daryn 04-09-2007 09:10 PM

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what exactly was the action in this benyamine/antonio hand??

Eaglebauer 04-09-2007 09:11 PM

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lol antonio.

Autocratic 04-09-2007 09:12 PM

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what exactly was the action in this benyamine/antonio hand??

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Benyamine pops it pf, bets flop, which Antonio floats. On the turn I forget the pot size, but Benyamine bets 18k, Antonio pops to 42k, Benyamine repops to 72k, then Antonio raises 40k more. Benyamine calls, river goes check check.

Whitewash 04-09-2007 09:13 PM

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Benyamine bet 18K into a 13K pot with his original turn bet.

BTW if there ever was a river card to follow up by putting Benyamine all in, that was it, wasn't it?

daryn 04-09-2007 09:15 PM

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right.. plus why reraise so small on the turn, is that really believable?

rurollin 04-09-2007 09:15 PM

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Gabe was talking about some Benjamin fella last hand..?

Do You See Why 04-09-2007 09:18 PM

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Benyamine bet 18K into a 13K pot with his original turn bet.

BTW if there ever was a river card to follow up by putting Benyamine all in, that was it, wasn't it?

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disagree. antonio isnt gonna 4-bet a flush or str. draw on the turn. all in by antonio on the river gets called by benyamine %100 of the time.

Whitewash 04-09-2007 09:22 PM

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This episode rules.

RichGangi 04-09-2007 09:23 PM

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Antonio def. deserves an Oscar for that lil performance. Good timing for KK.

Whitewash 04-09-2007 09:29 PM

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Antonio def. deserves an Oscar for that lil performance. Good timing for KK.

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The performance didn't actually earn him any more money, though. After the performance came 5-bet PF which Dags folded to.

RichGangi 04-09-2007 09:30 PM

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Yeah, who is this Benjamin fella he keeps referring to?? You would think Gabe learned how to say each players name correctly before recording voiceovers.

Autocratic 04-09-2007 09:31 PM

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Antonio def. deserves an Oscar for that lil performance. Good timing for KK.

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They give those out for overacting?

TrueGrinder 04-09-2007 09:31 PM

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Can't believe I waited so long to see Ivey play. What a disappointment.

LearnedfromTV 04-09-2007 09:35 PM

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Benyamine bet 18K into a 13K pot with his original turn bet.

BTW if there ever was a river card to follow up by putting Benyamine all in, that was it, wasn't it?

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disagree. antonio isnt gonna 4-bet a flush or str. draw on the turn. all in by antonio on the river gets called by benyamine %100 of the time.

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Once it was clear he was thinking about something other than folding to the reraise, I expected Antonio to flat call the turn and shove the river if checked to. Who knows if he gets called but after the small reraise I think he's getting called way more often. It [censored] up the bet sizing.

Benyamine was shaking pretty bad in that hand.

Also I missed the first minute of the players discussing the hand after the commercial. What, if anything, did Esfandiari say he had?

Whitewash 04-09-2007 09:37 PM

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Can't believe I waited so long to see Ivey play. What a disappointment.

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What do you expect him to do when he's at an extremely aggressive table?

RichGangi 04-09-2007 09:38 PM

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Loved that turn c/r by aba, esp. after yukon bet out of turn. So good to watch some real poker since Wednesday nights suck balls now.

RichGangi 04-09-2007 09:39 PM

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sorry guys, shouldve put an 'sw' in there.

Autocratic 04-09-2007 09:46 PM

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Loved that turn c/r by aba, esp. after yukon bet out of turn. So good to watch some real poker since Wednesday nights suck balls now.

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That was a litlte better than laying down AQ HU with Antonius.

RichGangi 04-09-2007 09:47 PM

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Loved that turn c/r by aba, esp. after yukon bet out of turn. So good to watch some real poker since Wednesday nights suck balls now.

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That was a litlte better than laying down AQ HU with Antonius.

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Agreed. Notice how he 3-bet Ivey, yet just mucked it to God. Interesting.

ronitonline 04-09-2007 09:47 PM

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When is the rerun cause my [censored] Recorder is [censored] up a lot and it didnt record it..

TrueGrinder 04-09-2007 09:48 PM

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Can't believe I waited so long to see Ivey play. What a disappointment.

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What do you expect him to do when he's at an extremely aggressive table?

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Not criticizing his play. I was just hoping to see some killer hands, that haven't materialized.

RichGangi 04-09-2007 09:54 PM

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Lol...Gotta love Ivey....'I'm on for 50.'....so sick.

daryn 04-09-2007 09:59 PM

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haha kwanzaa

Whitewash 04-09-2007 10:00 PM

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They spoke of a hand where sbrugby and Dags tangle on the turn (in the preview last week), but it doesn't air? Wtf?

RichGangi 04-09-2007 10:02 PM

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yeah, pretty much hate the way Dags played that hand. that was great though: 'merry christmas'.

ReubWills 04-09-2007 10:02 PM

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Bad episode.

beeyoung 04-09-2007 10:08 PM

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probably one of the best episodes of the show to date

Rottersod 04-09-2007 10:10 PM

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I'm going to add Antonius and Booth to my list of HSP favorites. They both showed gamble and Antonius especially showed that he has a built in bullsh&t detector.

I'm liking Esfandiari more and more. He is another player with gamble and has great reads. he's also funny and entertaining - 2 things that HSP needs and that counterbalances Antonius and Booth's stoic personalities.

I'm thinking an interesting HSP table would be:

Antonius
Booth
Esfandiari
Doyle
Barry
Ted Forrest
and of course Mike the Mouth so that we could watch the other stick it in and out of him all season.

dspholladay 04-09-2007 10:24 PM

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what exactly was the action in this benyamine/antonio hand??

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Benyamine pops it pf, bets flop, which Antonio floats. On the turn I forget the pot size, but Benyamine bets 18k, Antonio pops to 42k, Benyamine repops to 72k, then Antonio raises 40k more. Benyamine calls, river goes check check.

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Am I the only one who thought Benyamine reeked of strength there? I'm a little surprised Antonio didn't muck when Benyamine led out on the turn. He's been playing so good too, it's a shame to see him misplay that hand there and lose a huge pot.

On another note, I was hoping someone could explain High Stakes math to me. Late in the episode, Antonius (6/3 clubs)and Ivey (Ace/7) tango in a hand. The flop is 9-7-2 w/ 2 spades. The turn is an Ace, giving Ivey aces up. Isn't Antonius drawing dead here? I'm watching the episode again now (I DVRed it) and they say Antonius is 18% to win. I don't get the math. All in all, a decent season from HSP, I can't wait for the next one!

ronitonline 04-09-2007 10:25 PM

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Is the rerun the one at 11PM West coast?

redCashion 04-09-2007 10:55 PM

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probably one of the best episodes of the show to date

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Definitely. What a way to end the season.

sightless 04-09-2007 11:13 PM

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why cant HSP figure out that very good players + lot of money = great poker

JJBuffone 04-09-2007 11:25 PM

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Is the rerun the one at 11PM West coast?

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Yes it is.

westhoff 04-09-2007 11:33 PM

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what exactly was the action in this benyamine/antonio hand??

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Benyamine pops it pf, bets flop, which Antonio floats. On the turn I forget the pot size, but Benyamine bets 18k, Antonio pops to 42k, Benyamine repops to 72k, then Antonio raises 40k more. Benyamine calls, river goes check check.

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Am I the only one who thought Benyamine reeked of strength there? I'm a little surprised Antonio didn't muck when Benyamine led out on the turn. He's been playing so good too, it's a shame to see him misplay that hand there and lose a huge pot.

On another note, I was hoping someone could explain High Stakes math to me. Late in the episode, Antonius (6/3 clubs)and Ivey (Ace/7) tango in a hand. The flop is 9-7-2 w/ 2 spades. The turn is an Ace, giving Ivey aces up. Isn't Antonius drawing dead here? I'm watching the episode again now (I DVRed it) and they say Antonius is 18% to win. I don't get the math. All in all, a decent season from HSP, I can't wait for the next one!

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I noticed this too. Glad I'm not the only one that saw this. Excellent poker this episode, can't wait for the next season.

snagglepuss 04-09-2007 11:34 PM

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BTW if there ever was a river card to follow up by putting Benyamine all in, that was it, wasn't it?

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not after his turn play. had he just called benyamine's 3-bet, then possibly yes. in fact he must have hated that card because it would make a valueshove less likely with a lot of hands. antonio was threatening benyamines entire remaining 120k or whatever with his 40k re-raise. benyamine almost blew it with his table manner and antonio couldn't bring himself to pull the trigger. it was sick because he could'nt think benyamine would ever bet-3bet there with J9 bottom two, much less J2. he was likely afraid benyamine would give wtf call w/ AJ, but benyamine basically signalled that he wouldn't and didn't hold that hand.

had antonio just called he would have undoubtedly moved it in on the river after a benyamine check.

Dima2000123 04-09-2007 11:37 PM

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In the big hand, why was Antonio's last raise so small? Was there any logic behind it? I'm solidly a low stakes player, so obviously my experience may not apply, but small 3+bets on the turn always reeked of BS to me, and ultimately represented weakness. It seemed like he was trying to bluff without putting a lot of his money in, and wound up burning more of it, but I'd be interested to hear from high-limit pros about it.

chicken10der 04-09-2007 11:39 PM

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This might save some posts:

http://www.pokertube.com/SearchMovie...es%20poker%20s

Once the vids at the top of that page say S03E13, then they are ready. It's usually around 1am (central time) - 2.5 hours from now.

If you need a youtube link instead, same thing:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_ty...arch_category=0

Once the first results mention season 3 ep 13, then it's there.


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