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greenstack 04-03-2007 11:14 AM

Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
Hello,

I was getting garbage hands but I managed to grow up my stack in 4.500 just stealing and re-stealing for the last 15 min., mainly with all-ins with first-in vigorish and picking up the right spots.

When this hand arrived I wasn't sure about the best play, what do you think ? is an all-in totally foolish ?

Thank you,

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
(Ante: t50)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t5005
Hero: t13256
MP1: t3995
MP2: t5180
MP3: t6019
CO: t12822
Button: t6345
SB: t17770
BB: t9180

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds
Hero...

coolmoedee 04-03-2007 11:25 AM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
I'd just call and see what happens after you. You are the chip leader at the table so if short stack pushes you may want to call but no point risking a bunch of chips without seing the flop first.

TEKEE 04-03-2007 11:37 AM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
i would raise to 2200 myself and pray for the best.

ZJ123 04-03-2007 11:40 AM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
1700 to go

Hero: t13256
MP1: t3995 <--- call shove
MP2: t5180 <--- call shove
MP3: t6019 <--- call shove
CO: t12822 <---prolly fold to shove (depends on reads)
Button: t6345 <--- call
SB: t17770 <---prolly fold to shove (depends on reads)
BB: t9180 <---call usually

illadelph86 04-03-2007 12:23 PM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
2100 to go cuz your oop. ZJ seems right about the rest.

BettyBoopAA 04-03-2007 12:51 PM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
bet the same amount as you would with AA

shaundeeb 04-03-2007 02:29 PM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
I raise/call here vs every stack.

jaroot 04-03-2007 03:05 PM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
I think you can get away with a 2.5bb raise here and go from there. It lets the bigger stacks know you have a hand and gets you away cheap if the re-pop. It also lets the smaller stacks know you have a hand but will be pot committed to call any of their pushes. T1500 to go...

Cablelessray 04-03-2007 03:13 PM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
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I raise/call here vs every stack.

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i like this.

if you are gonna listen to ZJ, i think you should also take into consideration that they will have a looser range to push as they know you don't want to call them.

unless you have a read on a couple of tighter players, call anyone but rocks

ZJ123 04-03-2007 03:21 PM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
meh, maybe yall are right, but i think it def. depends on reads on the big stack. If its a LAG 2+2er then im prolly calling, but if its a non-thinking player and/or average/tight player, then im mucking i think.

Cablelessray 04-03-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
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meh, maybe yall are right, but i think it def. depends on reads on the big stack. If its a LAG 2+2er then im prolly calling, but if its a non-thinking player and/or average/tight player, then im mucking i think.

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if that's true i'm raising less often. the raise really depends on how many people you are folding to. the more folding, the less likely i'm raising.. it's just throwing away chips.

Fireball_AA 04-03-2007 05:23 PM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
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I raise/call here vs every stack.

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The range of a re-raise from an UTG+1 raise from a big stack should crush a hand like 99..AK and overpair only do that.

Jake M. 04-03-2007 05:38 PM

Re: Stars, 275 players left from 2321, how do you play 99 here ?
 
You still have an M of about 10. What is the point in shoving all in here? You're only going to get called by a better hand or over cards. Especially since you've been very active lately too. If you have Aces or Kings and shove all in here, I like that play. But 99, that's just dumb, at least I think. I would probably open the pot up here for about 1500 or so (2.5-3x) If you make it 1500-2000 to go, then a MP player may end up moving all in for 3000-6000 and now you'd consider a call at this point, hoping your in a race situation.


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