Can Canadians trust Neteller for withdrawing?
 

I'm Canadian. At this point, I don't trust Neteller at all. I know what happened to their American customers. Not sure I want to risk leaving anything with Neteller or even attempting a withdrawal from them. Should I wait till after apr 9 and request a bank wire or cheque from the merchant instead? Currently my Neteller account is 0. Merchants have a rule of deposit by Neteller means you have to withdraw by Neteller. I might have to wait till after Apr 9.

I don't trust Neteller at all after what they did to their American customers!

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I just attempted a Neteller withdrawal today of ~4000, since stars wouldn't let me withdraw by cheque what I had deposited in their site in the first place. I'll keep you posted as to how things go.

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I did one of $250 no problem last week no problem, and have one $1000 pending. I'll post when it hits.

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yeah, I had one for 700 a month ago that cleared the next day. I'm pretty sure Neteller is ok for the time being for Canadians in terms of withdrawing.

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If you contact the merchant directly and explain you don't want to wait and why you don't want to use neteller they should let you cash out by other means.

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I did a 2k withdrawal from Neteller yesterday afternoon and it hit my bank account just now.

The exchange rate sucks compared to Party though. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Lawrence

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You should be okay, the Americans didn't receive their money because it was SEIZED by the DoJ, not because of impropriety on the part of Neteller.

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I did a 2k withdrawal from Neteller yesterday afternoon and it hit my bank account just now.

The exchange rate sucks compared to Party though. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Lawrence

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Hey, if that's true, then it's good news indeed. I might try an EFT if other Canadians post that their EFTs went through since the announcement.

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Just did a withdrawal from UB into neteller and it came through fine. Made the request to do EFT into my bank account, last time I did this (a couple of months ago) it only took a couple of days. Will post when it comes through.

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You should be okay, the Americans didn't receive their money because it was SEIZED by the DoJ, not because of impropriety on the part of Neteller.

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I am an American, and just checked my Neteller account. It still has a balance of $10.80. This money has NOT been seized by the DOJ, Neteller has simply refused to allow me and countless others to withdraw their funds.

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You should be okay, the Americans didn't receive their money because it was SEIZED by the DoJ, not because of impropriety on the part of Neteller.

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I am an American, and just checked my Neteller account. It still has a balance of $10.80. This money has NOT been seized by the DOJ, Neteller has simply refused to allow me and countless others to withdraw their funds.

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??? IF the DOJ really seized others' funds, why on earth would they try sending yours? You'd like yours seized too?

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wow
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If you contact the merchant directly and explain you don't want to wait and why you don't want to use neteller they should let you cash out by other means.

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FOr sure. I didn't trust neteller and stars had no problem letting me choose a new method for withdrawls.

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??? IF the DOJ really seized others' funds, why on earth would they try sending yours? You'd like yours seized too?

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IF...IF...IF...

You have no proof that the DOJ has seized anything, now do you?

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??? IF the DOJ really seized others' funds, why on earth would they try sending yours? You'd like yours seized too?

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You have no proof that the DOJ has seized anything, now do you?

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Depends how you define proof. There is this in NT's press release:

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Following upon the complaints dated 16 January 2007, banks in the US began declining to permit transactions involving the Group through accounts maintained at one or more automated clearinghouses in the United States. Additionally, the Group has been advised that the USAO has obtained court-ordered seizure warrants seizing funds pertaining to the Group’s transactions. To the best of the Group’s knowledge, it believes that the amount of funds seized by the USAO or otherwise restricted by third parties does not exceed US$ 55 million. These funds were largely in the process of being transferred from the Group to its US customers or vice versa.
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Yes, yes, I know, it comes from Neteller. However, I haven't heard the DOJ denying it, have you?

Other than that, I have no proof, no.

Don't get me wrong, if I was an American with a whack of cash tied up in NT, I'd be pretty pissed off. I think NT has handled the situation very badly, but I also think that the fact that Americans can not get their money is NOT NT's doing. Just my opinion, based on everything I've read.

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I attempted to withdraw from Interpoker last night. This morning I received the usual email indicating that the transaction is in progress. I'll let you know when the money hits my neteller account.

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I believe that your money will MOST likely be okay with Neteller, even after the April 9th cut off for gambling transactions.

However, I do not really like to take risks and I'll be getting cashouts directly from reputable sites from now rather than EFTs from Neteller.

Those who got a crappy conversion rate, got it mainly because the exchange rate really sucks right now.

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I requested a payout from PokerStars from them last week and recieved the cheque yesterday. I took about a week; my recollection is I used to get cheques in 3-4 days so everything still seems to be working fine.

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I attempted to withdraw from Interpoker last night. This morning I received the usual email indicating that the transaction is in progress. I'll let you know when the money hits my neteller account.

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Well it looks like any attempt to move money through Neteller is pretty much a waste of time...

Dear Canadian Neteller Orphan,

We regret to inform you that InstaCash is no longer available as a payment method.

Further we have to inform you, that Neteller will close down their services for Canadian customers entirely on Monday, 9th April. For more information please see the press release from Neteller.

10% more for you!*

You may have lost your favorite payment method, but this means more money for you!

Make your first deposit after “black Monday” April 9th, and you’ll get 10% more (up to USD 100)!

Simply make your deposit and write us an email to [email protected] (subject: Neteller 10% bonus) to claim your bonus.

We would recommend you to use Credit Card, Money Global, Money Transfer or Bank Wire Transfer in the future. If you are looking for a ACH or e-wallet based solution we recommend Instadebit and Moneybookers.

Please see our payment page for more details on our wide range of payment options!

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us, our customer service will be pleased to help you.

Kind Regards,

Your Intertops Customer Service

*This 10% bonus is valid from 10th April 2007 until 24th April 2007 and only for Neteller customers. The maximum bonus per person is 100 USD. Rule 2.7c applies.


I'll now look into the fastest way to get this money?

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Wait. I thought Neteller was only stopping transferring funds to and from poker sites starting April 9th. Are they completely shutting all services they provide as well?

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Wait. I thought Neteller was only stopping transferring funds to and from poker sites starting April 9th. Are they completely shutting all services they provide as well?

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They aren't supposed to be, but they have almost no non-gambling merchants. If I were you I'd plop my money into a big site, and look at other E-wallets/payment options. Like I said earlier you money is probably safe, but why take any risks here.

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Wait. I thought Neteller was only stopping transferring funds to and from poker sites starting April 9th. Are they completely shutting all services they provide as well?

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They aren't supposed to be, but they have almost no non-gambling merchants. If I were you I'd plop my money into a big site, and look at other E-wallets/payment options. Like I said earlier you money is probably safe, but why take any risks here.

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Exactly. I believe our money will be accessible after April 8th, but what good will it be to me in Neteller? My plan is to have every last cent out before then, because it does me no good in NT beyond that day, and then I'm not worrying about my money being held/delayed/what have you.

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My impression reading the forums is that Neteller is willing to move money until that date. I'm yet to hear of a poker site that is willing to move money to Neteller. I know Party ceased all Neteller transactions 2 days ago. Looks like Ecash(Crypto) has ceased as well. I was hoping to get my Crypto money fast through Neteller without having to set up an alternate means. Now I think I'll just use snail mail.

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Haven't the Canadians learned anything from the American debacle? Earlier this year, a lot of American's money was "safe" and "ok" in Neteller. Look what happened to those safe funds.

Don't fall into the "it won't happen to us" mindset, get all your funds out of Neteller as soon as possible.

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My impression reading the forums is that Neteller is willing to move money until that date. I'm yet to hear of a poker site that is willing to move money to Neteller. I know Party ceased all Neteller transactions 2 days ago. Looks like Ecash(Crypto) has ceased as well. I was hoping to get my Crypto money fast through Neteller without having to set up an alternate means. Now I think I'll just use snail mail.

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To my knowledge, Party is the only site that has stopped dealing with NT immediately. I have withdrawn money back to NT from Paradise, Stars, a couple of Prima sites, and Will Hill since Sunday. Are you sure the eCash Cryptos won't let you withdraw? WH allowed me to, they just won't allow me to deposit via NT.

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Glad to see you guys were able to get your money out!

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My impression reading the forums is that Neteller is willing to move money until that date. I'm yet to hear of a poker site that is willing to move money to Neteller. I know Party ceased all Neteller transactions 2 days ago. Looks like Ecash(Crypto) has ceased as well. I was hoping to get my Crypto money fast through Neteller without having to set up an alternate means. Now I think I'll just use snail mail.

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To my knowledge, Party is the only site that has stopped dealing with NT immediately. I have withdrawn money back to NT from Paradise, Stars, a couple of Prima sites, and Will Hill since Sunday. Are you sure the eCash Cryptos won't let you withdraw? WH allowed me to, they just won't allow me to deposit via NT.

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Bobo,

Please view my post above from an hour ago. Ecash has pulled Neteller as a method of withdrawl. The funds I attempted to withdraw are currently stuck in Ecash no-mans-land. I'm hoping they are released back to my Interpoker account today.

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My impression reading the forums is that Neteller is willing to move money until that date. I'm yet to hear of a poker site that is willing to move money to Neteller. I know Party ceased all Neteller transactions 2 days ago. Looks like Ecash(Crypto) has ceased as well. I was hoping to get my Crypto money fast through Neteller without having to set up an alternate means. Now I think I'll just use snail mail.

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To my knowledge, Party is the only site that has stopped dealing with NT immediately. I have withdrawn money back to NT from Paradise, Stars, a couple of Prima sites, and Will Hill since Sunday. Are you sure the eCash Cryptos won't let you withdraw? WH allowed me to, they just won't allow me to deposit via NT.

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Bobo,

Please view my post above from an hour ago. Ecash has pulled Neteller as a method of withdrawl. The funds I attempted to withdraw are currently stuck in Ecash no-mans-land. I'm hoping they are released back to my Interpoker account today.

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Bobo,

Hold the line. 3 hours and 6 minutes after sending me an email stating that Ecash will no longer allow players to withdraw through Neteller, they have just sent me another email stating that...

ECash Direct has sent your withdrawal request back to your NETeller account.

This 30 minutes after I made a complete Neteller withdrawal.

Nothing is for sure in the world of poker!

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Glad to hear it.

That means the only sites I know of that have stopped dealing with NT for Canadiansthus far are Party (deposits AND cashouts) and Crypto (only for deposits).

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My Neteller EFT (to my bank account) of 4k went through today with no problems. It took 2 business days.

hec

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I withdrew from Pokerroom two days ago into Neteller (no problem).

I put a 5k EFT through on Neteller 48 hours ago and it just hit my bank account. Very fast. In fact, a bit faster then it used to back in the good old days.

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I have some cash on paradise and some still in NT. I am Canadian. Should I be cashing out into NT and sending funds back to my bank ASAP or will I be fine?

cheers.

also anyone know some decent similar alternatives to neteller that wont be shutting down anytime soon. I have only been with netteller for a couple weeks now, it looks like bad timing for me...

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I have some cash on paradise and some still in NT. I am Canadian. Should I be cashing out into NT and sending funds back to my bank ASAP or will I be fine?

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You'll be fine.

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also anyone know some decent similar alternatives to neteller that wont be shutting down anytime soon. I have only been with netteller for a couple weeks now, it looks like bad timing for me...

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Check out Moneybookers. There are several threads on this already in this forum, check them out.

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I have some cash on paradise and some still in NT. I am Canadian. Should I be cashing out into NT and sending funds back to my bank ASAP or will I be fine?

cheers.

also anyone know some decent similar alternatives to neteller that wont be shutting down anytime soon. I have only been with netteller for a couple weeks now, it looks like bad timing for me...

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This it the thread you want for eWallets:

eWallets

Paradise is one of the few sites that have no other eWallet for Canadians outside of NT. I have a lot of bonus to clear in Paradise, so I'm going to keep a couple of hundred in there, but I've already moved the rest out to NT. I expect at some point I'm going to have to get them to send me a cheque, although it's also quite possible I'll be able to use an eWallet once they move over to Boss.

I've already set up Click2Pay and Moneybookers, and I'll make sure all of my money is either on sites I want to play, or one of those two eWallets, within the next week.

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I made a cashout of $500 from absolute to my neteller and then to my bank account no problem at all funds are there now I checked all under 3 buisness days
shaun B

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I did an EFT from Neteller on monday to my bank account and it showed up today. No problems.