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fslexcduck 03-25-2007 11:54 PM

idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
does ANYONE see ANY merit to this argument? backstory is this guy Akis makes a comment calling Goldin management "golddigger management" in an email to the condo distribution list (because the mgmt co charges a ton for doing mostly nothing)

here is the series of emails:

Dear Fred and CVG folks --

As you can plainly see below, Fred attached a derogatory comment made by Akis about Goldin Managment. While I'm sure this was a mistake by Fred, I recommend that everyone either format your emails to delete prior threads are make sure that you read them before hitting the "reply all" button. Healthy dialogue is one thing but name calling is counter productive IMHO.


Adam


Hello Neighbors,

I was at Goldin's office today to go over a few financial matters with Robert.

While I was there, Robert mentioned that he had read the "Goldigger Management" comment and was visibly upset about it. He asked if that's how we at CVG refer to them behind their backs. I told him no, it was not, and I apologized on behalf of CVG for the ethnic slur.

- Jane


ane,

It, admittedly, was not wise for me to refer to Goldin as "Goldigger" in an email forum. The comment was not, however, a personal attack on Robert, rather, it was directed at Goldin Management for, in my opinion, collecting our payments and not adequately performing their duty as a management company (cleaning, repairs etc).

I don't see how use of the word "Goldigger" can be construed as an ethnic slur. The Merriam Webster Dictionary defines the word as : "A person who uses charm to extract money or gifts from others".

While it is regrettable that Robert read my email, he continues to ignore our emails. He should, at the very least, respond in a timely fashion with a status. We are, after all, paying for a service.

- Akis


Dear Akis,

While I am sure that you did not intend your comment to be an ethnic slur, the fact is that slurs against Jews primarily involve some sort of reference to Jews being greedy, primarily money-oriented, or being usurious (I refer you to Shylock in "Merchant of Venice" -- I believe Jews at one time were barred from many occupations except lending money which Christians were either barred from doing or unwilling to do). Thus, your casual modification of Goldin (obviously a Jewish name) to "Gold Digger" can reasonably be construed as an anti semitic slur.

Again, constructive criticisim and/or complaints are one thing, name-calling is another.

-Adam


you have GOT to be kidding me.

tl;dr: guy on my condo board thinks golddigger is derogatory slur becuase goldin management is a jewish name and someone changed it to say golddigger in the context of the group being a horrible management company

vikefan24 03-25-2007 11:57 PM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Goldin ain't messin with no broke [censored]

ElDuque 03-26-2007 12:00 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Honestly, I think it is borderline anti-semitic slur in this case. I realize that it wasn't intentional, but the whole jewish-money correlation should really be avoided at all costs.

BTW, instead of resorting to childish name calling, why doesnt he just move if he hates management so much?

MTUCache 03-26-2007 12:00 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
lol... Kayne West only dates Jewish chicks? That song makes so much more sense now. Or is that cents?

Seriously, this is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

miajag 03-26-2007 12:02 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Perhaps he should have called the company "niggardly" instead?

tuq 03-26-2007 12:03 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
duck,

you should make sure all correspondence with management is entirely in lower case. cuz that's how you roll.

stinkypete 03-26-2007 12:06 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
hahahahaha

blackize 03-26-2007 12:07 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
This is on the level of stupidity of the pot v kettle thread from a couple weeks ago.

protocol 03-26-2007 12:08 AM

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Perhaps he should have called the company "niggardly" instead?

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LOL. This is excellent.

Shadowrun 03-26-2007 12:11 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
this would make a good episode for curb your enthusiasm

edit: since he is a jew there is a high chance he is overly sensitive to the "cheap jew" jokes, but that in no way makes you in the wrong here.

lapoker17 03-26-2007 12:16 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
"adam" is obviously a douche, but this is actually kinda borderline. pretty dumb of akis not to anticipate this. i'm pretty un-pc and even i could have made that connection ahead of time. whether golddigger is an ethnic slur or not isn't the real point.

gamblore99 03-26-2007 12:18 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
[ QUOTE ]
A person who uses charm to extract money or gifts from others.


[/ QUOTE ]

This is what golddigger means to me. If anything I thought it was a black slur, because of Kanye West.

absoludicrous 03-26-2007 12:19 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Are they black?

Homer 03-26-2007 12:22 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Robert should worry less about potential ethnic slurs and more about doing his [censored] job.

The DaveR 03-26-2007 12:24 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Call them 49ers.

kipin 03-26-2007 12:33 AM

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Call them 49ers.

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LOL

matt2500 03-26-2007 12:52 AM

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Perhaps he should have called the company "niggardly" instead?

[/ QUOTE ]

But then he really could have gotten into trouble.

.Alex. 03-26-2007 12:52 AM

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Call them 49ers.

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Gold.



ba dum tsss

fuzzwonder 03-26-2007 12:54 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dear Akis,

While I am sure that you did not intend your comment to be an ethnic slur, the fact is that slurs against Jews primarily involve some sort of reference to Jews being greedy, primarily money-oriented, or being usurious (I refer you to Shylock in "Merchant of Venice" -- I believe Jews at one time were barred from many occupations except lending money which Christians were either barred from doing or unwilling to do). Thus, your casual modification of Goldin (obviously a Jewish name) to "Gold Digger" can reasonably be construed as an anti semitic slur.

Again, constructive criticisim and/or complaints are one thing, name-calling is another.

-Adam

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what is wrong with this statement. i'm agreeing with adam on this one. at no point did adam say what you said WAS an ethnic slur, but rather what it could be construed as. as far as this interaction is concerned the perception is more important to control than proving you are right.

sometimes, whether you are right, you still have to suck it up and take the hit.

Matt Williams 03-26-2007 12:54 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
this would make a good episode for curb your enthusiasm

edit: since he is a jew there is a high chance he is overly sensitive to the "cheap jew" jokes, but that in no way makes you in the wrong here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Considering he had a jewish chick jump off a ski lift while he ate edible underwear; I doubt he would be offended.

KidLifeCrisis 03-26-2007 01:05 AM

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Perhaps he should have called the company "niggardly" instead?

[/ QUOTE ]
This response would have been hilarious.

SoHotRightNow 03-26-2007 01:06 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
this would make a good episode for curb your enthusiasm

edit: since he is a jew there is a high chance he is overly sensitive to the "cheap jew" jokes, but that in no way makes you in the wrong here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Considering he had a jewish chick jump off a ski lift while he ate edible underwear; I doubt he would be offended.

[/ QUOTE ]

I doubt that the "he" that shadowrun was refferring to was Larry David...

KidLifeCrisis 03-26-2007 01:07 AM

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Call them 49ers.

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I don't get it [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

kipin 03-26-2007 01:11 AM

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Call them 49ers.

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I don't get it [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Perhaps you are just denser than gold?

GTL 03-26-2007 01:16 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
49ers were gold prospectors, the jewish ones were goldiggers.

Eagles 03-26-2007 01:19 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Anyone who thinks golddigger is a racial slur is an idiot.

Shadowrun 03-26-2007 01:22 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this would make a good episode for curb your enthusiasm

edit: since he is a jew there is a high chance he is overly sensitive to the "cheap jew" jokes, but that in no way makes you in the wrong here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Considering he had a jewish chick jump off a ski lift while he ate edible underwear; I doubt he would be offended.

[/ QUOTE ]

I doubt that the "he" that shadowrun was refferring to was Larry David...

[/ QUOTE ]

indeed

Annorax 03-26-2007 01:33 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Just direct attention away from it by making a comment about how the management group is a bigger scam than Scientology.

captZEEbo 03-26-2007 01:34 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
you can construe any insult as an ethnic slur or ethnically motivated when the two people are of different ethnicities.

Brainwalter 03-26-2007 01:35 AM

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you can construe any insult as an ethnic slur or ethnically motivated when the two people are of different ethnicities.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is not a two-way street though.

Johnny Drama 03-26-2007 01:37 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
when I read the title, I didn't think Jews were the ethnicity in question.

Scary_Tiger 03-26-2007 01:37 AM

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when I read the title, I didn't think Jews were the ethnicity in question.

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AJackson 03-26-2007 02:19 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Construing 'gold digger' as a Jewish slur is a stretch and I suspect the company may be using this a red herring to avoid facing their performance issue.

However, I don't get the original gold digger comment. I can see the easy play on words, but it really doesn't capture what the management company is doing wrong.

Now if had changed the name to 'gold hoarder'. . .

KidLifeCrisis 03-26-2007 02:21 AM

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49ers were gold prospectors, the jewish ones were goldiggers.

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Thanks for explaining, I never knew that. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

crazy canuck 03-26-2007 02:27 AM

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Just direct attention away from it by making a comment about how the management group is a bigger scam than Scientology.


[/ QUOTE ]

This is Goldin.

adsman 03-26-2007 02:54 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Forget the management issue, that liberal, afalfa-eating, do-gooder, anti-armpit shaver Jane needs a good bitch slapping.

ThankgodforRB 03-26-2007 03:01 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dear Akis,

While I am sure that you did not intend your comment to be an ethnic slur, the fact is that slurs against Jews primarily involve some sort of reference to Jews being greedy, primarily money-oriented, or being usurious (I refer you to Shylock in "Merchant of Venice" -- I believe Jews at one time were barred from many occupations except lending money which Christians were either barred from doing or unwilling to do). Thus, your casual modification of Goldin (obviously a Jewish name) to "Gold Digger" can reasonably be construed as an anti semitic slur.

Again, constructive criticisim and/or complaints are one thing, name-calling is another.

- Uncle Leo


[/ QUOTE ]

xwillience 03-26-2007 03:30 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
gold digger is in fact an ethnic slur. from like 120000 bc. people need to get over it as it means something entirely different now.

That Foreign Guy 03-26-2007 03:39 AM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Tell him as a person of [whatever] descent you find the word constructive highly offensive as [whatever] people used to work in construction.



cbloom 03-26-2007 01:09 PM

Re: idiots in my condo think golddigger is an ethnic slur
 
Thinking gold digger is an ethnic slur is retarded.

Forwarding along an insult because you can't use email right is way more retarded.


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