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CraigJ 03-21-2007 10:55 AM

I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
I wast watching Poker After Dark off and on and saw Phil Ivy play three hands. The very first hand of the tournament he had Q 10. He flopped top pair with the queen and ended up with trip queens after the river. Another hand I saw him play he had pocket sixes he hit a six on the flop for trips. Sammy Farhah hit a straight. The both went all in. Ivy got runner runner Queens to make his full house. The very next hand Ivy flopped another full house.

I know this is just a few isolated hands but if you watch Ivy a lot you see this a lot.

Again, I'm not trying to take away from his skill. I'm just saying he is probably doing pretty good in the luck factor area also.

skillzilla 03-21-2007 11:22 AM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
do you need a hug?

questions 03-21-2007 11:27 AM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
Well all of those pre-flop hands are drawing hands (I assume the last hand you watched was also a low pocket pair? If it had been aces or kings, you would have said so, probably.) so he got top pair-medium kicker on the first one. so what - not usually good enough to win a hand with if your opponent decides to take it to the river. On the second one, Farha was ahead, but Ivey made a good call, since 1) he had a set and 2) boards pair up often making the chance of getting a full house good. On the third hand, flopping a full house doesn't happen that much, but think about how often that happens, you bet and everybody folds - how useful is that full house then?

What you don't tell us, or what the editors decided to cut because it was boring TV, are the 27 hands (whatever number) which followed, which Ivey folded pre-flop.

holyfield5 03-21-2007 12:19 PM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
some guy with AQ rivered trip Qs on my AA earlier today, i bet phil ivey was using his computer.

MitchL 03-21-2007 12:41 PM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
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I wast watching Poker After Dark off and on and saw Phil Ivy play three hands. The very first hand of the tournament he had Q 10. He flopped top pair with the queen and ended up with trip queens after the river. Another hand I saw him play he had pocket sixes he hit a six on the flop for trips. Sammy Farhah hit a straight. The both went all in. Ivy got runner runner Queens to make his full house. The very next hand Ivy flopped another full house.

I know this is just a few isolated hands but if you watch Ivy a lot you see this a lot.

Again, I'm not trying to take away from his skill. I'm just saying he is probably doing pretty good in the luck factor area also.

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Its a well known fact that the game of poker is rigged in favor of Phil Ivey.

wulfpacker21 03-21-2007 02:55 PM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
this is like the dumbest post ever .. everyone gets lucky once in a while

CraigJ 03-21-2007 03:20 PM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
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this is like the dumbest post ever .. everyone gets lucky once in a while

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Exactly!! Like I said not taking away from his skill. Just showing he gets lucky too! It's not 100% skill.

Johnny Drama 03-21-2007 04:43 PM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
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this is like the dumbest post ever .. everyone gets lucky once in a while

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Exactly!! Like I said not taking away from his skill. Just showing he gets lucky too! It's not 100% skill.

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it's not? really? <font color="white">I hate OP so much </font>

trader01 03-21-2007 05:10 PM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
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this is like the dumbest post ever .. everyone gets lucky once in a while

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Exactly!! Like I said not taking away from his skill. Just showing he gets lucky too! It's not 100% skill.

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Not exactly. Your point wasn't that Phil Ivey gets lucky once in a while like everyone else, it was that Phil Ivey regularly gets more than his fair share of luck... and to help prove this, you cited a few lucky hands that you saw him play on TV. Hardly what I would call proof. (And incidentally, if in fact you _were_ just trying to prove that Phil gets runs of luck like everyone else, then this post really has no point at all.)

ShipitFMA 03-21-2007 05:34 PM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
man OP is getting annoying

Xanthro 03-21-2007 06:25 PM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
Wow, now I understand what happened the other day. I had AA, managed to get it all in pre-flop with three other callers, one had KK, one had QQ, and one had QJ.

It must have been Ivey who had the KK since the board was KQ7K5 for quad kings!!

That's it, Ivey plays everywhere and gets all the luck involved in the World.

Do you understand that depending on the pot odds that calling with a set is warranted even if you KNOW the other person has a straight? This has nothing to do with luck.

I would bet that much of what you considered to be luck is actually nothing more than good poker.

qroak 03-21-2007 08:17 PM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
Phil Ivey is super aggressive and play in so many pot that it's mathematically correct that he will hit more flops than other players. Just because TV doesn't show you all the hands he folded after he missed the flop doesn't mean they don't exist.

Josem 03-22-2007 02:02 AM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
i think that even if OP is not banned, he should at least be stopped from starting new threads.

bet124 03-22-2007 07:55 AM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
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Like I said not taking away from his skill. Just showing he gets lucky too! It's not 100% skill.

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Oh, thats something new in poker, that you need some luck in a game where you donīt have all information you need to win always.

holyfield5 03-22-2007 08:27 AM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
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this is like the dumbest post ever .. everyone gets lucky once in a while

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Exactly!! Like I said not taking away from his skill. Just showing he gets lucky too! It's not 100% skill.

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He gets unlucky too just like everyone else.....

Shandrax 03-22-2007 08:41 AM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
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I know this is just a few isolated hands but if you watch Ivy a lot you see this a lot.

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A lot? All the time! The only incident where he suffered a bad beat on TV was in the WSOP '03 when Freddy Deeb drew out on him on the river.

Other than that I only see Ivey sucking out again and again and again. EPT, Million$Cashgame, PAD, you name it...

Mr_Donktastic 03-22-2007 11:11 PM

Re: I was watching Phil Ivy on Poker After Dark...
 
OP is obv a racist, ban plz ok thx.


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