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Sponger. 03-16-2007 01:34 AM

Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
First before you read a couple of things. I'm sitting at a 10/20 NL HU table alone, while talking to 2p2er Ogre over AIM. He sits down at the table and we both sit out. I don't have player or observer chat on, and I don't even have the ability to chat on FTP. So this observer starts talking to Ogre and this is where their conversation occured. I've cut this conversation a bit and edited out the AIM screen names and phone numbers that aren't mine anyways...

Also I don't even have a Cake poker account, and I have never played this person on FTP. I have a database of 14k people who have played HU NL on FTP, and this guy isn't one of them. Also, the phone number and AIM screen name that PokerBabe31 posts aren't mine. So yeah, uh, what should I do about this? Should I email support and see what the deal is? I kind of feel bad for the guy. Oh yeah my FTP SN is Maf54, which is I swear I thought of first.

PokerBabe31 (Observer): you have got to be
kidding man
PokerBabe31 (Observer): atleast respond
PokerBabe31 (Observer): hey Ogre this guy
stole 2k from me
Ogre: how?
PokerBabe31 (Observer): we were doing a swap
on differnet sites
Ogre: yeah go on
PokerBabe31 (Observer): he was going to transfer
me 2k on here, and i transferred to him a cake
poker
Ogre: look i dont wanna hear your life
story
PokerBabe31 (Observer): for some reason he says
the transfer wont work on here, so we agreed for
him to western union it me
PokerBabe31 (Observer): and i got nothing
PokerBabe31 (Observer): and he acts like he cant
see my chat
Ogre: you got pozzed?
PokerBabe31 (Observer): yeah
PokerBabe31 (Observer): i'm an idiot
Ogre: ouch
PokerBabe31 (Observer): even talked to him over
the phone
Ogre: this story has interesting
implications
PokerBabe31 (Observer): yeah well i'm pretty
pissed
PokerBabe31 (Observer): obvously i got scammed,
otherwise he'd talk to me and tell me whats going
on
Ogre: hey pokerbabe
PokerBabe31 (Observer): yeah
Ogre: he doesnt have chat
Ogre: and he said he doesnt know you
PokerBabe31 (Observer): yeah right
Ogre: you want me to send you some
money so you can get rolling agin?
PokerBabe31 (Observer): i want my 2k from Maf
that he owes me
PokerBabe31 (Observer): he knows me
Ogre: whats his phone #
Ogre: then ill believe you
PokerBabe31 (Observer): 248231xxxx (Sponger- took out the #)
PokerBabe31 (Observer): called me from that
phone last nite
PokerBabe31 (Observer): where you talking to him
at
Ogre: how did you get in contact with
him if he cant chat
PokerBabe31 (Observer): we were playing on
cake poker yesterday
Ogre: your story has some holes
PokerBabe31 (Observer): he gave me his aim
screenname
Ogre: whats his AIM?
PokerBabe31 (Observer): xxxx (Sponger- took out the AIM)
Ogre: thats not him
Ogre (Observer): or is phone #
PokerBabe31 (Observer): well yesterday i sat
down with againt this guy
PokerBabe31 (Observer): and he started to dump
me chips
PokerBabe31 (Observer): cuz he owed me 2k,
was telling me his hands and everything
Ogre: his name was Maf54?
PokerBabe31 (Observer): got up about 200 bucks,
then we stopped cuz he was afraid full tilt would
catch on and his account would be frozen
PokerBabe31 (Observer): yes i saved the name
PokerBabe31 (Observer): put a note on him
PokerBabe31 (Observer): on cake poker we
exchanged screen names
Ogre: you know there was a story in
the news about the senator who was siliciting
young boys on AIM?
Ogre: and he resigned
PokerBabe31 (Observer): yeah how does this
have anythign to do with that
Ogre: the senator's AIM name was
Maf54
Ogre: the name is probably pretty
popular and different peopel use it on different sites
Ogre: this Maf54 isnt the same as the
one on cake
PokerBabe31 (Observer): the name on cake
wasnt Maf543
PokerBabe31 (Observer): i know it was on this site
cuz he started dumping me chips
Ogre: you are lying
Ogre: and you are probably trying to
scam or something i donno but you suck at
whatever you are doing pretty bad
PokerBabe31 (Observer): under this name, on his
aim sn, he said go to table anchor, 5/10 nl, and he
gave me about 200 dollars then we stopped as he
was afraid his account would get frozen
PokerBabe31 (Observer): you want me to send
you the email i got from cake poker, proving i sent
2K to the guy this guy gave me
Ogre: no
PokerBabe31 (Observer): k well dont tell me i'm a
scamming people
PokerBabe31 (Observer): i jsut want my moeny
that i've sent to this guy
PokerBabe31 (Observer): i'm not asking for it from
anyone else
Ogre: its not the same guy
PokerBabe31 (Observer): name them, i can easily
patch them up
Ogre: the area code that guys phone
# is doenst match with this guy's
PokerBabe31 (Observer): so this guy sat down
with me on this site, and dumped me chips is just a
coincidence
PokerBabe31 (Observer): i dont konw about that,
he coulda called from somoen elses phone
Ogre: do you want me to send you
some money so you can get back on your feet?
PokerBabe31 (Observer): this player as i was
talking to xxxx (Sponger- edited out AIM SN) online dumped me chips almost
200 dollars
PokerBabe31 (Observer): told me to raise and call,
so he could fol dme chips
PokerBabe31 (Observer): under this name
Ogre: yes or no
Ogre: or maybe put you in a sattelite?
PokerBabe31 (Observer): only if you take it from
maf54, he stole 2k from me

dibbs 03-16-2007 01:37 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
Cliff notes summation?

JSchnett 03-16-2007 01:39 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
ummm, the source of sponger's recent "success" was scamming idiots?

Sponger. 03-16-2007 01:39 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
Cliff notes summation?

[/ QUOTE ]

Some guy comes to the tables and claims I scammed him out of 2k doing some sort of transfer/chip dump from FTP-Cake Poker even though he has the wrong AIM screen name and phone number, and I don't have a Cake poker account or the ability to chat on FTP, and I've never playing with him before on FTP or seen his SN in my datamining.

MattSuspect 03-16-2007 01:41 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
Thats really weird.

P.S. Stake me?

HOWMANY 03-16-2007 01:44 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
If you still played 25NL and made like $0.08/hour you wouldn't have to worry about this stuff.

dibbs 03-16-2007 01:47 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Cliff notes summation?

[/ QUOTE ]

Some guy comes to the tables and claims I scammed him out of 2k doing some sort of transfer/chip dump from FTP-Cake Poker even though he has the wrong AIM screen name and phone number, and I don't have a Cake poker account or the ability to chat on FTP, and I've never playing with him before on FTP or seen his SN in my datamining.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wouldnt worry about it man, it is kinda weird but you honestly never even came across this guy and dont have a Cake account, either way you arent close to culpable, sucks if he got ripped off but you didnt have anything to do with it. Still weird though.

Sponger. 03-16-2007 01:48 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
Mr. Green: "So it was you, I was going to expose you."
Wadsworth: "I know, so I chose to expose myself."

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/286...eshot01tz0.jpg

obv

steel108 03-16-2007 02:03 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
Hey Sponger... no need to scam bro. If your that hard up, I have some menial work around my apartment that I need done. Let me know if I can be of any help.

Ron Burgundy 03-16-2007 02:21 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
Who gives a [censored] just ignore him. I just wasted 5 minutes reading that retarded chat.

plano 03-16-2007 02:24 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
just admit you scammed him.

Hallett 03-16-2007 02:31 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
sounds like somebody convinced him he was you, and the dupe transferred money to the fraudster... His Bad.

sunmaker 03-16-2007 02:32 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
I must be naive. All that struck me about this post was the fact that you were chatting on aim with another player at the table with a few suckers not in the discussion. I am fairly new at this, and realize that there is probably a large amount of collusion going on especially at high stakes, but is it really so common that people are open to talk about it? I suppose he did start out by saying they were both sitting out...

So you guys all talk to each other on AIM while playing?

I'm not accusing anyone of anything..I'm just wondering how common it is at higher stakes.

plano 03-16-2007 02:32 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
nice counter attack posting here first. Great way to save your rep.

adanthar 03-16-2007 02:39 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
well, this is just weird/retarded/whatever

do me a favor and PM the unedited convo to Grummin? maybe poor pokerbabe31 can get his money back.

however, I do have to say I'm impressed with a scammer that's willing to chip dump 1/10 of the money first. way to invite a double reverse scam! or something.

krazyace5 03-16-2007 02:50 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
I must be naive. All that struck me about this post was the fact that you were chatting on aim with another player at the table with a few suckers not in the discussion. I am fairly new at this, and realize that there is probably a large amount of collusion going on especially at high stakes, but is it really so common that people are open to talk about it? I suppose he did start out by saying they were both sitting out...

So you guys all talk to each other on AIM while playing?

I'm not accusing anyone of anything..I'm just wondering how common it is at higher stakes.

[/ QUOTE ]

It was a headsup table, pay attention next time.

Our House 03-16-2007 03:39 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
LOL heads up collusion.

<u>AIM CHAT</u>

Sponger: I have kings. Don't tell anyone.
Ogre: OK, I fold. Some guy in the chat thinks you scammed him.
Sponger: Tell him I didn't do it. What's your hand?

_And1_ 03-16-2007 03:50 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
Cliff notes summation?

[/ QUOTE ]

Ask Ogre for money and he will set you up so that you will get back up on your feet!

StepBangin 03-16-2007 04:09 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
This was cross posted here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post9579834


In Spongers OP it says:

[ QUOTE ]
PokerBabe31 (Observer): xxxx (Sponger- took out the AIM)
Ogre: thats not him
Ogre (Observer): or is phone #
PokerBabe31 (Observer): well yesterday i sat

[/ QUOTE ]

Why does it say "Ogre (Observer)" ???????

in TWP's it says:
[ QUOTE ]
PokerBabe31 (Observer): xxxx (took out the AIM)
Ogre: thats him alright
Ogre: and his phone #
PokerBabe31 (Observer): yesterday i sat down with againt this guy

[/ QUOTE ]


Also, why would you post this outta the blue? Who gives a [censored] if someone is saying you scammed them? What is your reason for posting it here?

StepBangin 03-16-2007 04:15 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
Ok, Now I am assuming the Post in NVG is a joke. Either way, Sponger is a dumb bitch. Pay the chick her money.

edfurlong 03-16-2007 04:18 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
LOL heads up collusion.

<u>AIM CHAT</u>

Sponger: I have kings. Don't tell anyone.
Ogre: OK, I fold. Some guy in the chat thinks you scammed him.
Sponger: Tell him I didn't do it. What's your hand?

[/ QUOTE ]

[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[censored] 03-16-2007 04:43 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
sponger next thing you're going to tell us is you were snowboarding while all this occurred

Hallett 03-16-2007 05:16 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
nice counter attack posting here first. Great way to save your rep.

[/ QUOTE ]

WTF???

Serves me right for trying to help.


No officer, I did not see the brown haired man with the hat and the green shirt steal the purse from the grey haired lady with one leg....

Our House 03-16-2007 05:17 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
sponger next thing you're going to tell us is you were snowboarding while all this occurred

[/ QUOTE ]
<u>AIM CHAT</u>

Sponger: Just got a brand new snowboard.
Ogre: Really? I have a pair of skis.
Sponger: I Fold.

Tuco 03-16-2007 05:43 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
Pretty sure this is Bulldozer from Cake. Was playing with him and another station yesterday when the 2k transfer deal was talked about. If I had to I could probably find the chat in my hh's. Forget who the other guy was.

Tuco.

jman220 03-16-2007 06:17 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
I must be naive. All that struck me about this post was the fact that you were chatting on aim with another player at the table with a few suckers not in the discussion. I am fairly new at this, and realize that there is probably a large amount of collusion going on especially at high stakes, but is it really so common that people are open to talk about it? I suppose he did start out by saying they were both sitting out...

So you guys all talk to each other on AIM while playing?

I'm not accusing anyone of anything..I'm just wondering how common it is at higher stakes.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, all high stakes players collude when playing heads up.

keikiwai 03-16-2007 06:27 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I must be naive. All that struck me about this post was the fact that you were chatting on aim with another player at the table with a few suckers not in the discussion. I am fairly new at this, and realize that there is probably a large amount of collusion going on especially at high stakes, but is it really so common that people are open to talk about it? I suppose he did start out by saying they were both sitting out...

So you guys all talk to each other on AIM while playing?

I'm not accusing anyone of anything..I'm just wondering how common it is at higher stakes.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, all high stakes players collude when playing heads up.

[/ QUOTE ]

just because it's HU doesn't mean players can't collude.... there's huge collusion rings where each colluder has multiple HU tables open....

fearme 03-16-2007 06:35 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
sponger stop scamming cuz u cant play cards

Our House 03-16-2007 06:36 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
just because it's HU doesn't mean players can't collude.... there's huge collusion rings where each colluder has multiple HU tables open....

[/ QUOTE ]
Explain plz.

iSTRONG 03-16-2007 08:26 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
just because it's HU doesn't mean players can't collude.... there's huge collusion rings where each colluder has multiple HU tables open....

[/ QUOTE ]
Explain plz.

[/ QUOTE ]

Levelled?

CrazyEyez 03-16-2007 10:38 AM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
just because it's HU doesn't mean players can't collude.... there's huge collusion rings where each colluder has multiple HU tables open....

[/ QUOTE ]
Explain plz.

[/ QUOTE ]
Transitive property ftw

Our House 03-16-2007 02:12 PM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
just because it's HU doesn't mean players can't collude.... there's huge collusion rings where each colluder has multiple HU tables open....

[/ QUOTE ]
Explain plz.

[/ QUOTE ]

Levelled?

[/ QUOTE ]
Ummmm...not really.

If that was a joke, it leveled the whole forum because the joke failed.

jman220 03-16-2007 02:55 PM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
just because it's HU doesn't mean players can't collude.... there's huge collusion rings where each colluder has multiple HU tables open....

[/ QUOTE ]
Explain plz.

[/ QUOTE ]

Levelled?

[/ QUOTE ]
Ummmm...not really.

If that was a joke, it leveled the whole forum because the joke failed.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm sorry, but I am part of the forum, and it did not level me.

Our House 03-16-2007 03:00 PM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
LOL, that's my (sarcastic) point.

It's hard to get leveled by a sucky joke. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

RikaKazak 03-16-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
Who gives a [censored] just ignore him. I just wasted 5 minutes reading that retarded chat.

[/ QUOTE ]

Mondogarage 03-16-2007 03:54 PM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]

PokerBabe31 (Observer): under this name
Ogre: yes or no
Ogre: or maybe put you in a sattelite?
PokerBabe31 (Observer): only if you take it from
maf54, he stole 2k from me

[/ QUOTE ]

Ogre = Newhizzle? PokerBabe31 offer up anal?

MotorBoatingSOB 03-17-2007 07:06 PM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
I suppose it would be too much to ask this guy to produce the HHs+chat where Sponger dumped him a bunch of money.

yellowsub 03-17-2007 07:55 PM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
tl;dr

Better Than U 03-17-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
[ QUOTE ]
tl;dr

[/ QUOTE ]and thanks for posting. Sponger, why post this? Just ignore him.

sunmaker 03-18-2007 04:03 PM

Re: Some guy thinks I scammed him out of 2k
 
Opps, didn't notice this was HU. Well, question still stands for full table games.


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