Ok, show me the aces
 

Okay, show me your aces cause I ain't laying down queens.

PokerStars Game #8858832292: Hold'em Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/03/11 - 22:23:39 (ET)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Toro85 [Qd Qc]
Green666: folds
LNJohnson: folds
Budreau1 joins the table at seat #6
Bemore: folds
whirleymob: folds
johnb28: raises $3 to $6
chad5742: folds
polochips: folds
Toro85: raises $3 to $9
johnb28: raises $3 to $12
Betting is capped
Toro85: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [2c Th 9h]
Toro85: bets $3
johnb28: raises $3 to $6
Toro85: calls $3
*** TURN *** [2c Th 9h] [6d]
Toro85: checks
johnb28: bets $6
Toro85: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [2c Th 9h 6d] [6c]
Toro85: checks
johnb28: bets $6
Toro85: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
johnb28: shows [Qs 6h] (three of a kind, Sixes)
Toro85: mucks hand
johnb28 collected $59 from pot

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

lol minbetaments

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

its limit
you can only minbet [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

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its limit
you can only minbet [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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LOL

i dont have poker stove, but your equity on that flop had to be like 97% or something like that.

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

I don't lay down kings either. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

PokerStars Game #8859683849: Hold'em Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/03/11 - 23:13:49 (ET)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Toro85 [Kc Ks]
LNJohnson: folds
Makemyday: folds
whirleymob: folds
Tango7: folds
WillyG19777: folds
Bayashi: raises $3 to $6
pikkleguy: folds
polochips: folds
Toro85: raises $3 to $9
Green666: folds
Bayashi: raises $3 to $12
Betting is capped
Toro85: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Ad 7d Ac]
Toro85: checks
Bayashi: bets $3
Toro85: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Ad 7d Ac] [Qs]
Toro85: checks
Bayashi: bets $6
Toro85: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [Ad 7d Ac Qs] [2c]
Toro85: checks
Bayashi: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Toro85: shows [Kc Ks] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Bayashi: mucked [Tc Js]
Toro85 collected $43 from pot

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

That's it, I'm going to start playing limit again.

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

anybody want to poker stove QQ v Q6 on that flop?

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

8,058,374 games 5.594 secs 1,440,538 games/sec

Board: 2c Th 9h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0:92.212% 92.06% 01.53% 7418484 123690.00 {QcQd}
Hand 1: 07.788% 06.37% 01.53% 513261 123690.00 { Qs6h }

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

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anybody want to poker stove QQ v Q6 on that flop?

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Ran it thru cardplayers odd calculator but it's got to be wrong:

QQ wins 90.71%
Q6 wins 6.26% (maybe because of backdoor heart draw)

and 3.30% tie. How can these hands tie after the flop???

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

8,058,374 games 5.594 secs 1,440,538 games/sec

Board: 2c Th 9h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0:92.212% 92.06% 01.53% 7418484 123690.00 {QcQd}
Hand 1: 07.788% 06.37% 01.53% 513261 123690.00 { Qs6h }

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Yours shows %tie also. How can they tie?

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

the backdoor straight draw ties

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

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the backdoor straight draw ties

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sharp

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

people lay down hands in limit?

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

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its limit
you can only maxbet [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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duh its the most you can bet

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

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people lay down hands in limit?

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Lol, I don't know. But in the first hand, I'm saying to myself, okay, you got AA, but I'm a donkey and I'm not laying down these queens and then the [censored] shows me the Q6.

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

<font color="white">BAD LIMIT ADVICE </font>

his pf is standard

he is raising for backdoor outs on flop, pretty standard

he paired on the turn, gotta bet that

lol river played perf

you got min-owned

gw

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

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<font color="white">BAD LIMIT ADVICE </font>

his pf is standard

he is raising for backdoor outs on flop, pretty standard

he paired on the turn, gotta bet that

lol river played perf

you got min-owned

gw

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Not sure if I'm being levelled here but his preflop is standard?

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

<font color="white">MORE BAD LIMIT ADVICE </font>

It's not bad against your range and for metagame, obv, his queen might be live and if he hits trips with 6s he's got implied odds through the ruff

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

lol, OP you can't complain when you're minraising wtf.

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

[ QUOTE ]
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

8,058,374 games 5.594 secs 1,440,538 games/sec

Board: 2c Th 9h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0:92.212% 92.06% 01.53% 7418484 123690.00 {QcQd}
Hand 1: 07.788% 06.37% 01.53% 513261 123690.00 { Qs6h }

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I like pokerstove, but why run 8,058,374 trials when you can run 990 on twodimes and know it's right:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 2c Th 9h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs 6h 62 6.26 898 90.71 30 3.03 0.078
Qc Qd 898 90.71 62 6.26 30 3.03 0.922</pre><hr />

Yes, I'm sure that 8 million trials is enough, but WHY does it do it?

<font color="white"> Lori </font>

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

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<font color="white">MORE BAD LIMIT ADVICE </font>

It's not bad against your range and for metagame, obv, his queen might be live and if he hits trips with 6s he's got implied odds through the ruff

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LMAO, donkeys have metagame and implied odds.

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

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<font color="white">MORE BAD LIMIT ADVICE </font>

It's not bad against your range and for metagame, obv, his queen might be live and if he hits trips with 6s he's got implied odds through the ruff

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LMAO, donkeys have metagame and implied odds.

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Bad limit advice IMO.

<font color="white"> Lori</font>

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

[ QUOTE ]
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<font color="white">MORE BAD LIMIT ADVICE </font>

It's not bad against your range and for metagame, obv, his queen might be live and if he hits trips with 6s he's got implied odds through the ruff

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LMAO, donkeys have metagame and implied odds.

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Bad limit advice IMO.

<font color="white"> Lori</font>

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<font color="white"> LDO </font>

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

i dunno what u guys did to your poker stove but these are the accurate percentages

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

72,082,170 games 37.609 secs 1,916,620 games/sec

Board: 9d 2s Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 96.466% 94.85% 01.62% 68369040 1165464.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 03.534% 01.92% 01.62% 1382202 1165464.00 { Qh6s }

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

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i dunno what u guys did to your poker stove but these are the accurate percentages

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

72,082,170 games 37.609 secs 1,916,620 games/sec

Board: 9d 2s Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 96.466% 94.85% 01.62% 68369040 1165464.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 03.534% 01.92% 01.62% 1382202 1165464.00 { Qh6s }

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Two hearts on the flop please.

<font color="white"> Lori</font>

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

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lol, OP you can't complain when you're minraising wtf.

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When did I complain? Btw, we were playing limit. I know you see 3/6 and just assume it's NL because you're a high stakes baller.

Re: Ok, show me the aces
 

try jk, reading the way that hand played just made me sick, who would play q6 like that there, maybe in pot limit to bluff, so sad