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Johnny Hughes 03-08-2007 04:29 PM

Poker History: George McGann: Gambler, Con Man, Kennedy Assassin??
 
POKER HISTORY: GEORGE MCGANN: GAMBLER, CON MAN, HIT MAN, KENNEDY ASSASSIN???

George Albert McGann was this almost comic Texas road gambler and con man when we used to play poker and gin rummy together back in the mid-sixties in Lubbock, Texas. He was born in Big Spring about 1937. During the 1960s, Lubbock was a real center for big no-limit Texas Hold 'em games although we obviously just called it Hold 'em. Many of our opponents came from distant towns and nobody knew or cared where they got their money. Poker players were by definition outlaws. Jack "Treetop" Straus was playing one time with a guy who would leave the game and go rob a bank. The FBI followed the guy back to the poker game. Treetop spoke for all gamblers when he told the FBI, most truthfully, "We don't know or care how he got that money."

George was a real mystery man. He'd get out on the blacktop and go all over Texas and show up in the middle of the night at some poker game. He seemed to mostly lose. Like most practiced con men, he was most charming, likable, and extremely well dressed. Watch out for a player whose shoes are new and a little too fancy. And those pinkie rings. If you told George, "I like your watch or hat or sweater."

He'd say, "It's for sale."

Once, George sold a bag of fake diamonds to this gullible gambler I knew. He told him they were hot diamonds from big Dallas burglaries that were in the newspaper. The guy had to promise to hide them for a decade before he moved them. George bragged about these things but he often told cryptic stories, talked in riddles, and hinted at a dark side. Much has been written about George McGann being a hit man for the Dixie Mafia. Some of the Kennedy assassination researchers think George was involved, even one of the shooters. D One of the huge factors in being a professional poker player back then was finding a game and keeping the game going. This led to a lot of loaning and staking. Be careful about borrowing because then you are obligated to make a loan to that guy. If it was the middle of the night and a guy says he is going to quit the poker game if it gets down to five-handed, you might put some railbird like George in the game if you were bigger behind than a cotton-patch spider. I loaned George $150 once. He soaked two beautiful expensive sweaters. I wore them for a few years. He had this long list of the people he owed money to. He'd pull it out and show it to me. He said paying all the poker players around Texas back was very important to him.

Years later, some Kennedy assassination researchers led by Gary Shaw of Ft. Worth. came here and we had dinner. He mailed me some pictures of George and George's list of debts. I was on it as were a Doyle, a Slim, and a Sailor. George would go down to Odessa and try the big game with all the future World Champs. He couldn't beat it and neither could I.

I wasn't afraid of George but I had not heard all these bad things. Looking back, I guess George could pump all that money on the tab because the smart money was afraid of him. He was the kind of poker and gin rummy player that you knew would go broke. On fifth street, he'd study and puzzle, and shake his butt all around in the chair and convince himself that some guy that had not bluffed since the Great Depression just had to be bluffing this time. If you held a hand, George would pay you off and he was pleasant about it with the con man's semi-permanent big smile on his face.

One of the places we played was up this long flight of stairs. The houseman kept a shotgun leaning against the wall visible to all players. Now it was expected that the houseman would have barking iron, but tastefully out of sight. Someone suggested he hide the shotgun if George came around. This was the first hint I had that the gambler's were wary of George and his nocturnal ramblings.

Mornings might find me driving by several spots looking to play one of my side games, bridge or gin rummy. I'd prop folks to play heads-up Hold 'em but settle for gin. I'd try the golf course or one of the dice games before it opened. A few times I went by George's fancy apartment in Lubbock's best apartment house. George had a whole closet full of fancy clothes and shoes. We'd play gin rummy and then go for mid-afternoon breakfast. I was careful not to break him but he was the type of gambler you could carry all the way to busted. I do not really remember ever seeing George win.

One morning, we sat down to play gin rummy. He had left the two major suit nines in the card box on the kitchen cabinet. I figured this out early but didn't see any sense in saying anything. He knew two nines were gone. I knew two nines were gone. He did not know I knew. At first I thought he was holding them out. I jumped up and suddenly looked in his lap. Nothing was there.

There was some other shiny-shirt road slick there. The way they kept carney-talking and eye-dancing each other, you'd know they gaffed he deck. After I beat him out of a day's walking around money, I pulled up. I went in the kitchen and could see the cards in the box. Neither of us mentioned it. As George was getting ready to go to breakfast, he slipped a pair of brass knucles in the front pocket of his very tight slacks. These showed for a mile. I asked him,"Why don't you carry a pistol like everybody else?"

He made a lengthy reply about his uncontrollable temper. He said he'd kill somebody if he had a gun. Later, he did just that. George McGann told me a lot about Jerry James who he knew. James was on America's top ten most wanted. James robbed other outlaws all over the south. When the word hit the gambler's gravevine that James was in town, joints closed and folks stayed armed and indoors. George said that when I got robbed at a poker game, it would be Jerry James. James was later a leader in the New Mexico prison riot where thirty-nine were killed. He befriended Jimmie Chagra in prison at the behest of our government and James gained valuable information.

Later, I was at a big poker game that was robbed by three masked gunmen. They told us to face the wall and not look and that was fine with me. Only one of them spoke but some of the players later said one of them might have been George. Big Fred threw his healthy bankroll behind the ice box and saved it. After the robbers left, there was a hastily arranged small posse who had guns in their cars. They gave chase but played lucky they didn't get to smell any gunsmoke on that particular beautiful summer night.

George McGann told me the most curious thing of our friendship after the Kennedy assassination. He showed up with a brand new Cadillac that was red on the bottom and white on top. He said Jerry James had a matching Cadillac. George said that after the assassination, the Texas Rangers arrested him in East Texas and had at first mistaken him for Jerry James who they were chasing. George said they shuffled him around to various small town jails with charging him with anything. Finally, they let him go and drove him to the Cadillac which they had pushed off into a bar ditch and dented up.

George married Beverly Oliver, the so-called Bakuska Lady, a Dallas night club singer, who said she filmed the Kennedy assassination but the FBI stole her film. Most of what she said has been discredited. She said George killed Doris Grooms and George Fuqua. She was the source for the information that Ruby met Oswald in Oliver Stone's movie, JFK. Beverly Oliver said that she and George McGann met for several hours with Richard Nixon when he was running for President. If they played poker, I am sure Nixon won. He financed his early political career on poker winnings.

Buford Pusser of Walking Tall fame said George was one of the Dixie Mafia hit-men that killed his wife. It has been written that he killed George McGann but that was not true.
A friend of mine was an eye witness to George McGann's killing in Lubbock, Texas, September 30, 1970. He was an old thirty-three. According to my friend, a group of honky-tonk heros numbering four were at a house in the middle of the night. George got a phone call from a woman who said that Jerry Meshell,30, had abused her. George shot him twice, killing him, while the woman was still on the phone where she could hear. Then George didn't know what to do. He held my friend and Ronnie Weeden, 31, captive for several hours. Finally, Weeden went to the back of the house and came back with a pistol. He killed George and did some time for it.

I think the Kennedy assassination was a small Dallas-New Orleans conspiracy headed up by Carlos Marcello. At that time, bookies in Dallas laid off bets to Marcello, the real Mafia. Jack Ruby was a bookie. His telephone records are at Texas Tech's Southwest Collection. It is obvious he was calling Ft. Worth every few minutes in relation to Fall football. Do you think the Kennedy Assassination it was a conspiracy?? I hope you like my old stories.
Johnny Hughes

grando 03-08-2007 04:35 PM

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wow these stories are so kick-ass!

Ribsauce 03-08-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Poker History: George McGann: Gambler, Con Man, Kennedy Assassin??
 
possibly the best story yet

MYNAMEIZGREG 03-08-2007 05:35 PM

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kevJ 03-08-2007 06:52 PM

Re: Poker History: George McGann: Gambler, Con Man, Kennedy Assassin??
 
you could really put a book together.

Jooka 03-08-2007 07:45 PM

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Love these stories, keep'em coming.

PoorTom 03-08-2007 08:29 PM

Re: Poker History: George McGann: Gambler, Con Man, Kennedy Assassin??
 
johnny - you rock.

1. write book
2. get mason to publish book
3. ???
4. PROFIT

how has this not happened already? mason, time to branch out from the strategy books, this stuff is pure gold. someone needs to publish these stories while the old time gamblers are still around, you can't tell me there's no market for this.

Poor Tom

Triggerle 03-08-2007 08:36 PM

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I'd buy several copies and would always have a Christmas present ready for my friends who know I'm playing Poker.

EvanJC 03-08-2007 08:46 PM

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thanks

Angrymoog 03-08-2007 09:19 PM

Re: History: George McGann: Gambler, Con Man, Kennedy Assassin??
 
Your best post yet, Johnny. Love your stories.

nutsflopper 03-08-2007 09:25 PM

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kb09pkt 03-08-2007 09:29 PM

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This is definitly the best story yet.

Anzat 03-08-2007 10:26 PM

Re: Poker History: George McGann: Gambler, Con Man, Kennedy Assassin??
 
awesome.

beset 03-08-2007 10:49 PM

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keep em coming please!

swityak11 03-09-2007 12:33 AM

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Excellent as always. I really enjoy these.

SA125 03-09-2007 12:36 AM

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I'm really starting to think this is a total gimmick account.

Johnny Hughes 03-09-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Poker History: George McGann: Gambler, Con Man, Kennedy Assassin??
 

What's a "total gimmick account?" I am new here and want to be sure my Poker History stories don't break any rules or taboos.

Clayton 03-09-2007 12:23 PM

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What's a "total gimmick account?" I am new here and want to be sure my Poker History stories don't break any rules or taboos.

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some people are just worried that instead of a weathered texas historian you might be a 17 year old asian kid playing with our collective dreams.

for instance, if i created an account in the name of governor Connally to dispute your claims, that would be a total gimmick account.

nutsflopper 03-09-2007 12:28 PM

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If it was a gimmick, I'd tip my hat and still read his posts.

svidrigailov 03-09-2007 12:35 PM

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Great as always, thank you!

Cornell Fiji 03-09-2007 12:47 PM

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Johnny,
You are absolutely brilliant. I can't wait for your next story.

Steve

Clan Macleod 03-09-2007 12:53 PM

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great stuff- keep em coming!!!!

Abones 03-09-2007 01:05 PM

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Great post, you have some amazing stories keep them coming!

Wetdog 03-09-2007 01:37 PM

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This is the kind of stuff I had wished Doyle would do more of. Thank you, Johnny, for these.

The Kennedy assassination as a mafia hit. Hmmm, there's been some speculation on this for the past 44 years. Could it be a message to his brother Bobby, then the Attorney General, to lay off? Why not just wack Bobby? What would be the motive for killing JFK? A contract with some outside entity? But who? The Russians had their own killers. Oswald was a convenient patsy to send up a false trail. Castro? The mob would want too much fom him, like reopening the Havana casinos. What would the mob want that some foreign interest could give? How about raw opium that they could make heroin from? Who has that?

[Phill] 03-09-2007 02:06 PM

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johnny - you rock.

1. write book
2. get mason to publish book
3. ???
4. PROFIT

how has this not happened already? mason, time to branch out from the strategy books, this stuff is pure gold. someone needs to publish these stories while the old time gamblers are still around, you can't tell me there's no market for this.

Poor Tom

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A prominant poster asked Mason about writing a book just like this a year and a bit ago, to which he replied that there was no market for such a book.

Thanks for the story Johnny, and keep them coming.

Conspir8or 03-09-2007 02:44 PM

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Johnny:

I join with others in this forum in saying you should get 2+2 to collect these stories and publish them. Add in some historical photos of the greats, maybe an intro from one of the surviving poker old guard, and you'd have a fine read.

I look forward to your stories. Please keep sharing, either here or in published form!

moris 03-09-2007 03:24 PM

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We need Johnny's corner. Sticky these.

TheGrasshopper 03-09-2007 06:26 PM

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Great stuff Johnny. I love these stories and if they were ever put into book forum I'd be sure to purchase it.

jbrent33 03-09-2007 08:22 PM

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Johnny, I know that I say this in every thread, but you really should write a book.

Do you still live in Texas? If you ever come to Austin I would like to buy you dinner.

There is a very interesting book on the Marcello connection to the JFK assassination called Mafia Kingfish that I think you might enjoy.

cameronw01 03-09-2007 09:15 PM

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I hope you like my old stories.
Johnny Hughes

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Yes, yes I do.

Bill Murphy 03-09-2007 10:31 PM

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Great stuff, Johnny.

Cowboy Wolford and/or TJ wrote a lot about George. One time a guy busted George playing headup, George pulls out a pistol & takes everything off him, guy then says, "George, this is gonna leave me awful short. Could you loan me a couple hundred?", which George preceded to do. Guy didn't care because he knew he'd evetually win it all back.

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George McGann told me a lot about Jerry James who he knew. James was on America's top ten most wanted. James robbed other outlaws all over the south. When the word hit the gambler's gravevine that James was in town, joints closed and folks stayed armed and indoors. George said that when I got robbed at a poker game, it would be Jerry James. James was later a leader in the New Mexico prison riot where thirty-nine were killed. He befriended Jimmie Chagra in prison at the behest of our government and James gained valuable information.

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Jesus Christ. Talk about a meeting of the minds. I wonder if Jerry James was the one who robbed the cockfights down in Florida that Slim wrote about.

You youngsters orta read up on that New Mexico prison riot. One of the most underrated, forgotten things of all-time. Once they got the list of rats outta the warden's office, they were going cell to cell. Couple guys got their heads sawed off by barbwire, etc. Place was pretty much rubble after it was over.

Pete Venkman 03-09-2007 10:48 PM

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Great stuff. I look for new stories hourly.

I just came across this at another site:

Johnny Hughes has just completed a novel entitled, Texas Poker Wisdom


at the bottom

Johnny, can you confirm this? Either way, please keep the stories coming.

Thanks
Pete

FluffyTiger 03-09-2007 10:59 PM

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One time a guy busted George playing headup, George pulls out a pistol & takes everything off him, guy then says, "George, this is gonna leave me awful short. Could you loan me a couple hundred?", which George preceded to do.

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awesome

Johnny Hughes 03-10-2007 07:57 PM

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Thanks to everyone. I am looking for a literary agent or publisher for a poker novel. The Poker History series posted here and other short articles would make another book.

wet work 03-10-2007 08:30 PM

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Great stories. I love this kind of stuff and would definitely buy a book.

KingGeorgeC 03-12-2007 01:24 AM

Re: Poker History: George McGann: Gambler, Con Man, Kennedy Assassin??
 
Frankly, I'd much rather read a good poker history book than another strategy book.

Runkmud 03-12-2007 05:36 AM

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Great stuff Johnny! I used to read your stories back on the Poker forum in the day, they're just as fantastic now as they were then.

stigmata 03-12-2007 06:05 AM

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Thanks to everyone. I am looking for a literary agent or publisher for a poker novel. The Poker History series posted here and other short articles would make another book.

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Please keep us posted in NVG about progress. Make sure you find a good agent -- your work is very marketable and worthy of wider than a purely niche-audience.

Johnny Hughes 03-13-2007 09:36 AM

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Thanks to everyone but especially TwoPlusTwo. On two other sites where I posted before I came here, I get gibberish, illiterate attacks.

MiltonFriedman 03-13-2007 01:38 PM

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Johnny,

Basically, your stories are a good read, good enough that a lot of people could care less about accuracy, conjecture or other possible faults. You are writing for an audience, not for direct examination or a deposition.

Thanks for the effort.


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