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MJC1977 03-07-2007 05:42 PM

Need Advice on Misdemeanor Charges
 
Hello and thanks in advance to anyone who can help.

I maybe charged soon on 45 misdemeanor counts of zoning violations for property in a state I do not live.

If I chose to ignore these charges, is it possible to be arrested in one state on misdemeanor charges from another?

The charges are class C which is the most "insignificant" of the misdemeanors. They carry up to a 90 day jail term, and $1000 dollar fine for each charge.

I would have no need, to go back to the state in question so that is not a concern.

Any general advice is appreciated, as I have never been charged with a crime before.

Also, it is a criminal and not civil infraction.

Thanks,

MJC

beenben 03-07-2007 05:48 PM

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+very very unlikely that they would extradite you for this. without looking it up, I think the model extradition act would not even allow it.

NLSoldier 03-07-2007 05:49 PM

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wtf just call a lawyer.

Freakin 03-07-2007 05:51 PM

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wtf just call a lawyer.

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seriously... this is why you get charged with 45 counts of misdemeanors in the first place.

call a lawyer immediately.

MJC1977 03-07-2007 06:14 PM

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I've already spoken to two of them and their advice was the same, appear before a judge and ask for leniency as first offender.

kmak 03-07-2007 06:37 PM

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I could not think of a better place to get advice on this than a poker forum. Seriously.

By-Tor 03-07-2007 06:38 PM

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we cannot help you without details of the offenses as well as pictures of any female family members.

Dids 03-07-2007 06:38 PM

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I'm going to assume you're some sort of slum lord and encourage you to do whatever you can to make this worse for yourself

mbillie1 03-07-2007 06:57 PM

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we cannot help you without details of the offenses as well as pictures of any female family members.

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qft... also how the hell do you get 45 counts of anything??

oddjob 03-07-2007 06:58 PM

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we cannot help you without details of the offenses as well as pictures of any female family members.

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we'll also accept pictures of underage robot racist pop stars.

JohnAndersen 03-07-2007 06:59 PM

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45 COUNTS OF ANYTHING IS BALLA.

Dids 03-07-2007 07:00 PM

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45 COUNTS OF ANYTHING IS BALLA.

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I feel like there's a strong chance this is called "I didn't have smoke detectors in the apartment building I owned".

BURNING DEATH IS BALLA

BPA234 03-07-2007 07:03 PM

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Charges?

MJC1977 03-07-2007 08:05 PM

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Charges are nothing to do with slumming.

I am being charged with illegally subdividing a section (640 acres) of land. They are hitting me with a 1 charge for every parcel I carved out of it.

Freakin 03-07-2007 08:16 PM

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Charges are nothing to do with slumming.

I am being charged with illegally subdividing a section (640 acres) of land. They are hitting me with a 1 charge for every parcel I carved out of it.

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hot subdivision on subdivision action

mbillie1 03-07-2007 08:19 PM

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Charges are nothing to do with slumming.

I am being charged with illegally subdividing a section (640 acres) of land. They are hitting me with a 1 charge for every parcel I carved out of it.

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Starting a wildfire and burning it all to the ground just to stick it to the man is standard play here.

Dids 03-07-2007 08:22 PM

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Charges are nothing to do with slumming.

I am being charged with illegally subdividing a section (640 acres) of land. They are hitting me with a 1 charge for every parcel I carved out of it.

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This is like the only possible answer that could prove me wrong. Congrats?

Bicycles_Biatch 03-07-2007 08:41 PM

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did you already sell the properties:

Yes- [censored]'em... you got your money

No- Pay the fine... you won't have clear title to sell them...

Freakin 03-07-2007 08:44 PM

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did you already sell the properties:

Yes- [censored]'em... you got your money

No- Pay the fine... you won't have clear title to sell them...

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woah! this is actually sensible advice! I didn't think OOT has had ANY of that the last 4 days or so

Bicycles_Biatch 03-07-2007 09:29 PM

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did you already sell the properties:

Yes- [censored]'em... you got your money

No- Pay the fine... you won't have clear title to sell them...

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woah! this is actually sensible advice! I didn't think OOT has had ANY of that the last 4 days or so

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don't get used to it... I only let those nuggets slip out once in a while.

__w__ 03-07-2007 10:37 PM

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alright...first off, unless you live somewhere that is extremely different from the rest of the world, they are going to have a hard time pinning this all on you. You really need to get a lawyer that specializes in "Real Estate Law"...This means skip the guy that wrote up your buddies divorce and find somebody that actually knows what's going on. Next, did you sell these through a real estate office? Do you hold the lein on all of them, or did some of the people finance their purchase? Next, whom holds title to all these parcels? I'm guessing that the people that bought them have recorded the transaction at the "register of deeds". Unless you really pulled off something shady, you should be able to prove that it is as much of a government error as it was a crime by you. Most local governments require split approval prior to recording ownership of a newly created parcel. That approval should have came from either the township or county level. If you never recieved that, and the county let you proceed with the split/sale of 45 parcels, I'm pleading ignorance. Also, if you had a real estate agent involved in all this, I would be looking at fileing a complaint with the state board against them, and maybe even looking at a lawsuit against them, and their firm. Any agent worth two beans shouldn't have let you find this much trouble.

If you are in the clear, don't hesitate to take it to court. Alot of times, I have found that local governments use this stuff as a scare tactic, when a couple greedy pricks just want a kickback. Whatever you do, don't grease any palms, 'cause they will screw you in the end. Trust me.

__w__

BPA234 03-07-2007 11:40 PM

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I am not a lawyer, and you definitely need to get with a competent attorney from the jurisdiction where you are being charged. Any advice you received in this thread is suspect. Further, everything I am going to offer you now is anecdotal at best.

Here's a couple problems that I believe you will have to face if you don't deal with this issue:

1. Warrants often have limitations based on expense to extradite relative to crime committed. For example, driving to endanger in California, would be unlikely to get you extradited from MA. But, felony murder would.

In your case, the quantity of counts and the dollar value of all the potential fines could end up producing a warrant that could reach your present location.

Additionally, if you are fined, then your account could be turned over for collection.

Bottom line, you really need to get qualified legal advice from an attorney you hire. No attorney will advise you to break the law and/or not answer the charges. But, you should be able to get a solid idea of what you are facing and the associated consequences.

FWIW, most of the time in these kind of cases, you will settle on a fine that is a fraction of the potential 45K and no jail time.

ElDuque 03-07-2007 11:52 PM

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45 COUNTS OF HOMICIDE IS BALLA.

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