Can my Boss do this??
 

So for the last 4 years i've been working at this company. Schedule for all full-time employees has been Mon-Fri, fluctuated from 8-5 to 7:30-4:30. We are moving offices at the end of the month. My Boss is telling everyone that office is closed that Friday and we will work that Saturday to set up desk make sure we are 100% operational for Monday. So can my boss do this? I'm an hourly employee in CA. I've looked up California labor codes, but can't find anything, plus it's like 1500 pages long. Our employee manual does state office hours. Naturally I have plans that weekend, plus i'm a little ticked that I have to give up my weekend cause my boss is too cheap to pay extra for moving on a saturday.

Also feel free to add when a boss has tried to screw you.

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jesus, just go to work, I doubt you are going to find much sympathy, and yes, he can do that.

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You're gonna make a fuss about one day in 4 years?

Maybe this is why bosses have to be [censored].

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A S U,

If you really want to get back at your boss, post on 2+2 all day. Oh wait...

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Are you union? If so, your CBA should spell out what you can and can't be asked to work pretty clearly.

I know that as a supervisor, this is never something I'd do. Making people give up their weekends is way too [censored].

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get over it, it won't kill u do to this, especially since u've been there for a while...

also, like it was said, i'm pretty sure ur boss can do this, i remember a similiar incident a friend was telling me about at his job...

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wow. just wow.



this is....well....not an issue to most. just go to work.

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Guys,

You don't know if his boss can do this. You simply don't know enough about his job. This kinda stuff is FAR from universal.

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jesus, just go to work, I doubt you are going to find much sympathy, and yes, he can do that.

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I'm not looking for sympathy. I just wanna know if he can do it. He also hasn't told us which weekend in will be, either the 3rd or the 4th. Geez I guess i'm just unreasonable.

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f that. i'd quit. be a man and take a stance. how dare him try to make you trade a weekend day for a weekday, to try and make the company successful.

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If you are going to get the first Friday of March Madness off then I'd say your boss is awesome.

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A S U,

If you really want to get back at your boss, post on 2+2 all day. Oh wait...

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Hahaa..yeah my 2 posts per day avg is killing my production.

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Are you union? If so, your CBA should spell out what you can and can't be asked to work pretty clearly.

I know that as a supervisor, this is never something I'd do. Making people give up their weekends is way too [censored].

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No Union. Hourly employee. I'm not trying to make a huge beef here, at least you understand the importance of a weekend.

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f that. i'd quit. be a man and take a stance. how dare him try to make you trade a weekend day for a weekday, to try and make the company successful.

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Make the company successful? We are changing locations. Why do people feel the need to embelish to prove their point. Christ.

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f that. i'd quit. be a man and take a stance. how dare him try to make you trade a weekend day for a weekday, to try and make the company successful.

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oddjob,

I find most of your replies reasonable, but must take exception here. Quitting would not allow OP to see the look on his boss's face after all his friends, family and pets are killed.

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f that. i'd quit. be a man and take a stance. how dare him try to make you trade a weekend day for a weekday, to try and make the company successful.

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Make the company successful? We are changing locations. Why do people feel the need to embelish to prove their point. Christ.

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yah, heaven forbid he try to make the company as operational as quickly as possible. there's no way that could possibly effect the company in any way.

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Guys,

You don't know if his boss can do this. You simply don't know enough about his job. This kinda stuff is FAR from universal.

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Agreed. If working Saturdays is not within the realm of expectation of the employees, then the boss can not expect them to be there Saturday. For example, had OP had a previous engagement based on the expectation of having Saturdays off, Bossman won't have grounds to discipline OP for not showing up (provided OP tells Bossman of the situation immediately upon learning of the conflict).

That said, Bossman can ask OP to work Saturday if possible, and OP should work Saturday if he can. Otherwise this could be career limiting...like posting to 2p2 all day (referring to KV).

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f that. i'd quit. be a man and take a stance. how dare him try to make you trade a weekend day for a weekday, to try and make the company successful.

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oddjob,

I find most of your replies reasonable, but must take exception here. Quitting would not allow OP to see the look on his boss's face after all his friends, family and pets are killed.

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i didn't really look at it like that. good point.

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I've moved a ton of company's in my day (from the IT side of the house) . Its usually a slack day with little to do. Most ppl will stroll in around 10ish and leave at 2ish. I would see whats expected. Also depending on state there is usually no OT / off hours law that will pertain to you working Saturdays. The only thing you can "really" do is cry jewish [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Im going to go against the grain here, I would be fairly pissed. the only upside is that the boss is giving you 3 weeks notice I think you said, so thats cool, but a schedule is a schedule, and if you worked 4 years w/o working a saturday, then all of a sudden, you were demanded to work, that would suck, so most likely Id use show up to work, but not do much. I really wouldnt say anything negative though to anyone ASU, imo, it is the things like this that bosses really remember and can screw over an otherwise decent employee.

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Just to be clear, are you going to have to go in to help move stuff? I'm guessing that's not even remotely close to your actual job, right?

I don't know what "set up desk" means but it doesn't sound like something I'd want to do.

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don't know where you're located.

i have employees; and its fairly common that they are required to work overtime or nights or weekends to keep up with production.

if they have real conflicts that prevent this; and they are raised in a reasonable manner; i will try to work with them if I can (which just means one of their co workers will have to work in their place).

if they blatantly refuse...or if they were saying "i don't work weekends", i would probably end up firing them and replacing them...hourly employees are easily replaced.

yes; i'm probably an ass.

but sometimes workers are required to go above and beyond their weekly job requirements...its a fact of life if you want to excel in your job.

by the way..based on your perspective, OP; i'm guessing you're about 23?

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when i was younger (i'm 36 now), i would not have been happy about this...would have bitched and moaned...would have thought it was unfair...etc.

so i do see where you are coming from; but your boss has responsibilities...and its his job to use his resources (you) to get moved on time with no extra down time.

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Im going to go against the grain here, I would be fairly pissed. the only upside is that the boss is giving you 3 weeks notice I think you said, so thats cool, but a schedule is a schedule, and if you worked 4 years w/o working a saturday, then all of a sudden, you were demanded to work, that would suck, so most likely Id use show up to work, but not do much. I really wouldnt say anything negative though to anyone ASU, imo, it is the things like this that bosses really remember and can screw over an otherwise decent employee.

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Ah TY this is how I feel. For the record this isn't something I'm willing to lose my job over. I just was wondering if it's legal. I'm pretty pissed cause I had plans to leave town that I have to cancel. I'm not going to cause a stir around the office, but it's still b.s.

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Im going to go against the grain here, I would be fairly pissed. the only upside is that the boss is giving you 3 weeks notice I think you said, so thats cool, but a schedule is a schedule, and if you worked 4 years w/o working a saturday, then all of a sudden, you were demanded to work, that would suck, so most likely Id use show up to work, but not do much. I really wouldnt say anything negative though to anyone ASU, imo, it is the things like this that bosses really remember and can screw over an otherwise decent employee.

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Ah TY this is how I feel. For the record this isn't something I'm willing to lose my job over. I just was wondering if it's legal. I'm pretty pissed cause I had plans to leave town that I have to cancel. I'm not going to cause a stir around the office, but it's still b.s.

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Don't you get personal days or vacation days? Just take one and then you can leave town a day earlier.

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Just to be clear, are you going to have to go in to help move stuff? I'm guessing that's not even remotely close to your actual job, right?

I don't know what "set up desk" means but it doesn't sound like something I'd want to do.

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No we have a moving company. I don't really know what it means. He said we leave when we're 100% operational. So since 1/2 the people here are not computer savy at all, i'm sure it means i'll be setting up everything system in addition to my own. I'm not really looking forward to it.

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I can't believe this post has come this far without anyone coming up with the easy answer.

Tell him you are a jew and can't work on the Sabbath.

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if you had plans to leave town...have you considered asking to speak to your boss privately...

by the way: this seems sketchy cause didn't you say you weren't sure what weekend it was yet?

and saying :

"i see that this is important; but I already have plans to travel that weekend... is there any way for me to avoid having to change my plans?"

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I can't believe this post has come this far without anyone coming up with the easy answer.

Tell him you are a jew and can't work on the Sabbath.

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He's been there 4 years and I bet he has worked on a few Yom Kippurs.

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don't know where you're located.

i have employees; and its fairly common that they are required to work overtime or nights or weekends to keep up with production.

if they have real conflicts that prevent this; and they are raised in a reasonable manner; i will try to work with them if I can (which just means one of their co workers will have to work in their place).

if they blatantly refuse...or if they were saying "i don't work weekends", i would probably end up firing them and replacing them...hourly employees are easily replaced.

yes; i'm probably an ass.

but sometimes workers are required to go above and beyond their weekly job requirements...its a fact of life if you want to excel in your job.

by the way..based on your perspective, OP; i'm guessing you're about 23?

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when i was younger (i'm 36 now), i would not have been happy about this...would have bitched and moaned...would have thought it was unfair...etc.

so i do see where you are coming from; but your boss has responsibilities...and its his job to use his resources (you) to get moved on time with no extra down time.

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I said CA in my OP. I'm not going to refuse and I may be hourly, but i'm not exactly replaceable. I've trained so many people in this office it's redic, i'm a pretty important piece of the pie. I'm 27 BTW, but don't know being curious about labor law or irritated about being inconvenienced really is a reflection of my age.

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Don't you get personal days or vacation days? Just take one and then you can leave town a day earlier.

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This would be perfect except there are like 4 of us going, they have typical mon-fri 9-5 like me.

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maybe i'm in the minority..
but your first response being "is this legal that i'm being told to take a friday off and work a saturday" ie can i use the law or the threat of a lawsuit to salvage the 1 saturday in 4 years that i've been asked to work.

reflects some amount of immaturity in the work force in my opinion

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I can't believe this post has come this far without anyone coming up with the easy answer.

Tell him you are a jew and can't work on the Sabbath.

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LOOOOL. Genius, except he know's i'm Catholic.

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I wonder if they phrased it more as

"come by and spend some time setting up your desk on saturday so that you're ready to work first thing monday morning"

If it would be different.

If you're a network tech or something, obv it's different.

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I'd be super surprised if this were "illegal". You keep mentioning "hourly" employee. What makes that so special? Is it illegal for some hourly jobs to work on saturday instead of friday?

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maybe i'm in the minority..
but your first response being "is this legal that i'm being told to take a friday off and work a saturday" ie can i use the law or the threat of a lawsuit to salvage the 1 saturday in 4 years that i've been asked to work.

reflects some amount of immaturity in the work force in my opinion


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correct. although immaturity may not be the perfect word.

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if you had plans to leave town...have you considered asking to speak to your boss privately...

by the way: this seems sketchy cause didn't you say you weren't sure what weekend it was yet?

and saying :

"i see that this is important; but I already have plans to travel that weekend... is there any way for me to avoid having to change my plans?"

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He said it will be 3rd or 4th weekend, but is unsure. He said it's like 75% the 4th cause another office in same building is moving the 3rd. If its the 3rd I say nothing and work the sat. If it's 4th, I will speak with him privately.

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maybe i'm in the minority..
but your first response being "is this legal that i'm being told to take a friday off and work a saturday" ie can i use the law or the threat of a lawsuit to salvage the 1 saturday in 4 years that i've been asked to work.

reflects some amount of immaturity in the work force in my opinion

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Just wanted to know if it's legal that's all. I mean if it is illegal someone SHOULD say something correct?

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maybe i'm in the minority..
but your first response being "is this legal that i'm being told to take a friday off and work a saturday" ie can i use the law or the threat of a lawsuit to salvage the 1 saturday in 4 years that i've been asked to work.

reflects some amount of immaturity in the work force in my opinion

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Immaturity might not be the right word, but I agree in principle.

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I just wanna know if he can do it.

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Yes, he can do this. If you don't like it, then quit.

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Geez I guess i'm just unreasonable.

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Double yes. Unreasonable and a big baby as well.

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I'd be super surprised if this were "illegal". You keep mentioning "hourly" employee. What makes that so special? Is it illegal for some hourly jobs to work on saturday instead of friday?

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Dude, IDK. I know like zero about labor law. I just tried to give as specific of info as possible so that the lovely and positive knowledgeable people of OOT could assist me. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]