25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

I'm probably going to be posting a lot of hands from last night's session because for some reason the Card Gods decided to put me in a ton of annoying spots.

OK, so it's live 25/50 and this is my very first hand at the table. I posted in the CO and am stacking my chips into their pyramid while the cards are in the air. I recognize a couple of faces but pretty much everybody is a complete unknown.

UTG raises, MP2 cold-calls, hijack cold-calls, and I call one more small bet with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Button folds, SB semi-CCs, and BB folds.

5 to the flop for 11 SBs.

Flop is T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

SB checks, PFR now checks, MP2 bets. Hijack folds, I raise. (I think this is the correct play, but willing to listen to arguments). SB now check/3-bets, PFR folds, MP2 calls, I call.

Turn is the 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB bets, MP2 calls, I raise, SB calls, MP2 folds.

Heads-up to the river which is 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB checks, I bet.

I think the turn and river are standard, right? And I assume PF is obvious. How about the flop?

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

100% standard. I definitely raise the flop.

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

well played...awesome hand to establish an image when u first sit down. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

You can't call the flop, you can't fold the flop and you've got a hand to protect. Well played.

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

[ QUOTE ]
100% standard. I definitely raise the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

I think I almost always raise this hand in this position with this flop. Pair + BD frush + BD str8 + ability to get players out + posibility EP has a non pair hand = very easy raise. And odds to draw out on the turn or continue on if you hit a redraw. VNH.

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

[ QUOTE ]
100% standard. I definitely raise the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not that you need the affirmation since everyone agrees with you but nh.

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

I don't think there's any other way to play this hand.

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

No other way to play it.

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

I think it'd be awesome for you to 3bet preflop considering it's your first hand at the table. It'd be a great image play that's slightly -EV at worst, and you'd more than be able to make up for it later in the session if you get to show it down.

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

[ QUOTE ]
I don't think there's any other way to play this hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

sure there is, you could fold the flop. Of course, when I hit the nuts like that, I too must raise. Every other street is not open to debate.

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

I feel a bit better knowing others here play this hand the way I did.

I showed my cards first, since I was the bettor, and two guys at the table were shocked I didn't have TT, because they said "my man's got to have a set of sevens over there!" and sure enough villain turned over the case two 7s for a hand that had me drawing basically dead on the flop.

My image immediately became that of "spewtard," an image I don't think I've ever had before. I tried to capitalize on it, unfortunately I was attacked by a series of runner-runner drawouts and sick 2-outers the rest of the session.

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

Everythign is standard except the flop. It think its close between raising and calling. I tend to call in these spots. If it was the original raiser betting, I raise this everytime. I find that when its multi-way and someone in MP donks the flop thats not the orginal raiser, they usually have at least top pair (and dont slow down)- from the later action I appear to be wrong- but thats usally what I find.

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

[ QUOTE ]
I feel a bit better knowing others here play this hand the way I did.

I showed my cards first, since I was the bettor, and two guys at the table were shocked I didn't have TT, because they said "my man's got to have a set of sevens over there!" and sure enough villain turned over the case two 7s for a hand that had me drawing basically dead on the flop.

My image immediately became that of "spewtard," an image I don't think I've ever had before. I tried to capitalize on it, unfortunately I was attacked by a series of runner-runner drawouts and sick 2-outers the rest of the session.

[/ QUOTE ]

i like the way you played the hand but doesn't the check 3bet scream set to you?? if not, what do you put the SB on?

SB has to slow down on the turn with the straight card, which you could easily have since you posted

is SB capable of check 3betting with just 1 pair, possible over pair maybe, just curious as to what you think

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

I'll join the chorus... Nice hand, PJ.

I think you might consider stacking your chips in something other than a pyramid...

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

[ QUOTE ]


i like the way you played the hand but doesn't the check 3bet scream set to you?? if not, what do you put the SB on?

SB has to slow down on the turn with the straight card, which you could easily have since you posted

is SB capable of check 3betting with just 1 pair, possible over pair maybe, just curious as to what you think

[/ QUOTE ]

Seeing as how he's an unknown, his range has to include: set, overpair, AT, KT, 2 pair, 98s (OESD), and maybe some bizarre hand I hadn't accounted for. Yes, after the 3-bet obviously I knew I was significantly behind. But when I turned 2 pair, I had to raise for value, knowing that if 3-bet I was most likely dead. But when he just called my turn raise and checked the river, AT seemed the most likely candidate, don't you think?

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

Maybe I'm being results-oriented (I did read the results), but when I saw SB's check-3-bet, I'm thinking that he's probably got at least 2 pair here. The turn doesn't change our relative hand strength unless he's got exactly 74 (which is unlikely considering that we have a 7 - T4 is his most likely 2-pair hand). I'd be very tempted to just call down from the turn (but I play weak sometimes, I know).

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


i like the way you played the hand but doesn't the check 3bet scream set to you?? if not, what do you put the SB on?

SB has to slow down on the turn with the straight card, which you could easily have since you posted

is SB capable of check 3betting with just 1 pair, possible over pair maybe, just curious as to what you think

[/ QUOTE ]

Seeing as how he's an unknown, his range has to include: set, overpair, AT, KT, 2 pair, 98s (OESD), and maybe some bizarre hand I hadn't accounted for. Yes, after the 3-bet obviously I knew I was significantly behind. But when I turned 2 pair, I had to raise for value, knowing that if 3-bet I was most likely dead. But when he just called my turn raise and checked the river, AT seemed the most likely candidate, don't you think?

[/ QUOTE ]

i agree with this, but i think the turn scared the SB. other than that i think you played it fine, just unfortunate he had what he had.

if you have no true read on him, then AT seems the most logical.

Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s
 

Definitely the right decision to raise on the flop you've got middle pair with a couple back doors (flush/straight/2nd pair) and you don't have top pair so if you don't hit the turn you most likely get to check the turn for half price. Pretty standard, well played!