Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

Same game as Hand#1. The PFR in this hand is the SB from Hand#1, he just sucked out in a huge pot before this hand and is a big stack $2.5k~. The button is running bad, and just rebought for $300, giving him a total of $350. I've won a few hands and have about $1700~ or so behind.

3 limpers and the SB from Hand#1 raises to $100, the button calls (leaving him $250), you are in the SB w/KK.

Your action?

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

if you're comfortable playing post flop, id call.

id also be interested in somebody telling if/why flat calling here would be bad, since ive played like <40 hours live and this sort of situation probably doesnst come up online much



edit: i thought you were in position vs the big stack who raised to $100 when i wrote this, so i may be off. im still sorta confused about what position the guy who raised to $100 is in

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

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i assume you meant BB.

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Nope, SB, it may be a little confusing as it's the SB from Hand#1

that raised to $100.

I like your question here, thanks for your reply.

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

Why do you think he raised it to $100?

You can't really go wrong making it $400 to go, since he realizes that button's presence (ie pot commitment) makes the pot basically protected.

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i'd make it like 350

is that a standard raise for him? often times when soemone makes an abnormally large raise out of nowhere i'll see AA, but it's not something i'm too concerned about yet.

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is that a standard raise for him?

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Well, it was a new "set president" so to speak as the guy he sucked out on in that huge pot made it $100 to start when he called out of the blind w/A2o.

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

did you quote it because he was actually going around saying something as ridiculous as "set president"

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did you quote it because he was actually going around saying something as ridiculous as "set president"

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No that's all me. I quoted it as it does sound ridiculous but I think it's the only way to describe the raise clearly.

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did you quote it because he was actually going around saying something as ridiculous as "set president"

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No that's all me. I quoted it as it does sound ridiculous but I think it's the only way to describe the raise clearly.

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I think you mean "set precedent," but w/e.

Online I would usually just make it $350 so it looks like i'm trying to pick on the shortstack. The shortstack actually makes a flatcall attractive since if he gets committed postflop the hand should play out pretty honestly.

Surf

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

I'd repop to $275 and try hardest to stick it in preflop, almost no matter what. He could very well be feelin loose and frisky b/c he got lucky, and live players are garbage and will push QQ preflop to a reraise at a full ring table.

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

Make it $500, he just won a big pot so he might be in the mood to gamble and it will look like you're trying to isolate the short stack.

I would never just call here, but I don't like playing big pots with deep stacks OOP.

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

I would make a slightly more than PSR to 650 or so, but that is what I always raise when making a re-raise oop. (info hideing and all that.)

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to all saying make a big raise (enough to put shorty all in): dont you think this announces to the big stack donk that we have a big hand and he'll play accordingly?

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to all saying make a big raise (enough to put shorty all in): dont you think this announces to the big stack donk that we have a big hand and he'll play accordingly?

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yes, but maybee he is dumb and thinks QQ or AK is a big hand. There is a lot of dead money out there already with that retarded open rasie so lets get it.

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

These dumb huge raises are more often QQ-TT then KK/AA, so I would make it 400. If he shoves I think you can fold though.

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

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Same game as Hand#1. The PFR in this hand is the SB from Hand#1, he just sucked out in a huge pot before this hand and is a big stack $2.5k~. The button is running bad, and just rebought for $300, giving him a total of $350. I've won a few hands and have about $1700~ or so behind.

3 limpers and the SB from Hand#1 raises to $100, the button calls (leaving him $250), you are in the SB w/KK.

Your action?

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I'm confused as to our position, I assume we are last to act. If that is true, I:

I re-raise to $350 straight. We've got the best hand right now, so get more $$ in the pot. I insta-call a push of the big stack.

If we see a flop, I'm probably pushing just about any non-ugly flop. (I don't want an A obv, or paired QQ or JJ)

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

i would make it $400 to go thus getting button all in and possibly making initial raiser fold an A.

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to all saying make a big raise (enough to put shorty all in): dont you think this announces to the big stack donk that we have a big hand and he'll play accordingly?

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OP stated that villain called a $100 raise cold out of position with A2off and one a huge pot in the previous hand. Villain is probably feeling pretty invincible; Raise big and get ready to play a big pot.

Regardless we are out of position, need to raise this up every time despite villain's image.

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i would make it $400 to go thus getting button all in and possibly making initial raiser fold an A.

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we don't want him to fold an A unless it's AA.

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

push

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Flat call and look to c/r the flop.

Re: Live 5/5 NL $1k-max Hand #2
 

mike: "i would make it $400 to go thus getting button all in and possibly making initial raiser fold an A." WTF!?!?!

Joe: Glance over at EP's stack and quickly count it in your head. Take a quick glance at your chips. Now glance at Button's stack and count it in your head. Make it $450 straight.

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i would make it $400 to go thus getting button all in and possibly making initial raiser fold an A.

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we don't want him to fold an A unless an ace is going to flop as usual.

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mike: "i would make it $400 to go thus getting button all in and possibly making initial raiser fold an A." WTF!?!?!

Joe: Glance over at EP's stack and quickly count it in your head. Take a quick glance at your chips. Now glance at Button's stack and count it in your head. Make it $450 straight.

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I made it $500, the PFR nearly called, the button called instantly. The board came T high-rainbow and MHIG.

Thank you all for your responses! Another great thread!