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I just spoke to the folks at The Wynn after reading an article on cardplayer that said they have 25 tables for their tournament area. I was thinking: "25 tables... hmmm... maybe the events I want to play in will sell out before I get there!"

Not to worry, there are 25 tables PLUS the tables in their poker room, for a grand total of 51 tables. Additionally, the poker room rep. said that she'd be ecstatic if they filled 20 tables in total for most of these tournaments.

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does that mean the poker room rep isn't optimistic about the player turnout?

by the way, anyone else planning on playing the first few tournaments?

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Well, she didn't say that exactly... I pretty much quoted her directly. But the implication is that yes, she doesn't expect big fields.

I would expect that this is because of two things:

1) This is the first major tournament series that the Wynn has attempted, and

2) The average buy-in's are larger than most casual players are willing to part with. If the events were in the $200-$500 range, I'd expect they'd sell out and then some, but I guess they're going for a more "serious" clientelle.

I'm playing in 4 of the events... if they average 200 players/tournament I'll be happy.

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The Venetian is having a two week event at the same time with buy in's from 330 - 540. These are deep stack tournies with starting chips of 6000 and 10,000 chips and 40 minute levels. The Venetian tournies start at 2 pm durring the week and at noon on the weekends. There are also sat's for all events.

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I'm playing the Sunday 1k event. Hoping for at least 200 myself. From what the cardplayer article is saying here I think this will be a nice layout. Usually the Wynn doesn't skimp on much.

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This is nice that they are going to put tables out on the casino floor near the poker room. It is so much more convenient then putting it in some convention space that is out of the way.

I do not play nearly as much as I would like and I am looking forward to getting into action again. I will be there starting Thursday the 1st for a long weekend.

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Agreed... finding the tournament area during the '05 WSOP at the Rio was a pain in the ass. Well, I guess it wasn't hard to find, it just took forever to get to. And then trying to go to a restaurant in the casino during the meal break... fuggetaboutit.

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The Venetian is having a two week event at the same time with buy in's from 330 - 540. These are deep stack tournies with starting chips of 6000 and 10,000 chips and 40 minute levels. The Venetian tournies start at 2 pm durring the week and at noon on the weekends. There are also sat's for all events.

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Venetian deep stack info:

http://www.venetian.com/casino/pokerTourn.html

Peace,

KennyBanya

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I'll be at the Venetian for the Omaha tourney on Sunday then the Wynn Omaha tourney on Monday.

Plan to head up to Reno on Tuesday for the omaha tourney at the Peppermill and the Horse tourney on Wednesday.

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yea seems a like a good structure

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anyone has info about wynn's $1K, $2K and $3K NL tournament structure, starting chips, min/level, etc? any single table satellites during the event? what's the buy-in and structure for satellites?

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http://www.wynnpoker.com/wynn_classic.cfm

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I have confirmation that the $10K event at the Wynn Classic will NOT have any TV coverage.

I would be very surprised if the $10K event will draw more than 100 players.

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I think the biggest problem The Wynn is facing getting better turn out is that most of the SoCal players that are rolled for this type of tourney are playing the WSOP Circuit Event in San Diego and LAPC. The ME is happening right now. Unless they score or have a huge roll, it would be hard to play both. Then they still face competition from the Venetian's event.

I love playing at the Wynn and seriously thought about this event but it is really bad timing for them.

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The Venetian offers more play with deeper starting stacks for lower buy-ins compared to the mid-level tourneys at the Wynn.

As far as the $10K buy-in event is concerned: a number of pros with sponsorships simply will NOT play untelevised tourneys anymore.

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Which do you think will have a bigger prize pool? (If you had to guess.)

A 1K event at the Wynn, or a $330 event at the Venetian. Do you think the Venetian will draw 3X the number of entrants?

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I would be surprised to see the Venetian draw more than 150 players for any of its $330 buy-in deep-stack events.

Furthermore, I would set the over/under at 100 players for each of the $550 events at the Venetian.

The lack of TV, plus the relative dearth of live action at the Venetian (players tend to be creature of habit, and many players still prefer the Bellagio), means that the Venetian will probably have relatively small fields of mostly locals.

Again, TV (with associated sponsorship money from online poker "schools" for final table players) was the driving force for many events during the boom.

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At the ordinary Saturday noon $540 tournament last weekend, we had 109 entries. Maybe it was more than usual because of the All-Star thing, but the poker room didn't seem any busier in general than any other Saturday.

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Which do you think will have a bigger prize pool? (If you had to guess.)

A 1K event at the Wynn, or a $330 event at the Venetian. Do you think the Venetian will draw 3X the number of entrants?

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I would be surprised to see the Venetian draw more than 150 players for any of its $330 buy-in deep-stack events.

Furthermore, I would set the over/under at 100 players for each of the $550 events at the Venetian.

The lack of TV, plus the relative dearth of live action at the Venetian (players tend to be creature of habit, and many players still prefer the Bellagio), means that the Venetian will probably have relatively small fields of mostly locals.

Again, TV (with associated sponsorship money from online poker "schools" for final table players) was the driving force for many events during the boom.


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today's $330 got ~350 entrants

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Which do you think will have a bigger prize pool? (If you had to guess.)

A 1K event at the Wynn, or a $330 event at the Venetian. Do you think the Venetian will draw 3X the number of entrants?

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I would be surprised to see the Venetian draw more than 150 players for any of its $330 buy-in deep-stack events.

Furthermore, I would set the over/under at 100 players for each of the $550 events at the Venetian.

The lack of TV, plus the relative dearth of live action at the Venetian (players tend to be creature of habit, and many players still prefer the Bellagio), means that the Venetian will probably have relatively small fields of mostly locals.

Again, TV (with associated sponsorship money from online poker "schools" for final table players) was the driving force for many events during the boom.


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today's $330 got ~350 entrants

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Interesting.

Binion's only managed to get 201 players for the UPC Ladies Event (to be aired on WGN SuperStation in April) on February 9, and Binion's never got more than 150 players (achieved on opening day, October 14) for any of the $340 buy-in UPC televised events.

I actually like the Venetian poker room: lots of space, lots of light, high ceiling.

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Any word yet on how many players the first event at the Wynn has attracted?

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First event, Feb 21st drew 312 players, 28k'ish to first place.

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Just got off the phone with the V, 227 runners today.

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Today, the Venetian had over 220 players as stated and first place was over $ 20,000.... The first two days has been good. Definately an awesome tournament with the amount of starting chips and 40 minute levels...

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First three days at venetian had the following fields 316 229 and 265

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F the Venetian. This thread is about the wynn. Anyone know the fields for the wynn tourneys so far?

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I went there today to play in one of the $330 satellites. They had 72 players for their $2,000 buy-in event today. The satellite action was quite good. Only 6% juice and the players at my table were horrible. We got down to 2 in one hour, despite 20 minute levels and 3,000 in starting chips (we chopped $1,560 each).

The main poker room had all 23 tables going -- for NL there were 5 $1/3 games and 6 $2/5 games with 1 $5/10 and 1 10/20 table.

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72 players for the 2K event... ugh. I was hoping for more. Hopefully things pick up as the week goes on...

Congrats on your satellite finish, and thanks for the info.

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I went there today to play in one of the $330 satellites. They had 72 players for their $2,000 buy-in event today. The satellite action was quite good. Only 6% juice and the players at my table were horrible. We got down to 2 in one hour, despite 20 minute levels and 3,000 in starting chips (we chopped $1,560 each).

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How do they pay out for the satellites? Buy-in chips or regular casino chips or what? It sounds like from your chop it's casino chips/cash and you can walk off with the money rather than play the multi-table tournament.

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Yesterday was definitely not the day to hold a poker tournament if you're not Commerce. It's kind of like when ESPN runs cheerleading competitions or some such time-filler when up against the Super Bowl. They just throw the white flag in advance.

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They paid tournament chips for $3k of it and cash for the other $120 ($500 tournament chips). My guess is that you can sell them to those who are going to enter the events.

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the venetian is having a big effect on the wynn..saturday they had 309 players for the 500 deep stack tourney...10000 chips for 500 or 5000 chips for 2000....plus all the big money is at the commerce for the main event..we will see next week when the money comes back into town.(although the live action at the wynn was packed from 11am on)..pretty smart of the venetian to bump heads with the wynn in march and not try to tackle the bellagio in april..

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According to pokerpages.com the $500 tournament got 668 runners. That's decent. Only 72 for the $2,000 buy in, but 169 for the $1,000 buy in. I think the numbers will pick up this week.

I will contribute to the prize pool on Thursday if I can get from the airport to the Wynn in time. Otherwise I will head over to the Venetian since it starts at 2PM instead of noon.

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Interesting.

Binion's only managed to get 201 players for the UPC Ladies Event (to be aired on WGN SuperStation in April) on February 9, and Binion's never got more than 150 players (achieved on opening day, October 14) for any of the $340 buy-in UPC televised events.

I actually like the Venetian poker room: lots of space, lots of light, high ceiling.

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Sorry to hijack Oliver but is UPC totally dead with Doyle's Room gone now? A buddy was supposed to be on last night's UPC but instead they had an infomercial with Hugh Downs and one for some wonder broom.

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I played the $540 first event at the Wynn and we had about 700 runners spread over two days. About 72 of us made Day 2 and they initially told us that 63 would get paid. I was very pleased with this, since I expected that would allow me to really punish the mid-stacks on the extended bubble. Once we were seated for Day 2, they took a "vote" to extend the payout to all 72 runners. They said they needed unanimous agreement. I didn't have the nads to object, but a number of other people did, so they said we would play down to 63 as advertised. A short while later, they announced that they were changing the payout on their own, despite the objections. This eliminated any room to bully on the bubble for me and I busted out around 52nd or so.

It was a pretty decent structure and we all got $20 food comps. I would have played in more events if I had more time in town.

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Wonder what Nevada's Gaming Commission has to say about changing a payout schedule mid-tournament?

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I wondered about that too. They said that they were exercising their option in the fine print to change whatever they wanted (essentially). It sped up the pace a great deal, but I was a below average stack at that point and I think I gave up some expectation because I lost a lot of fold equity once the bubble burst. I also would have played the last hour of the first day differently if I knew that we were on the bubble then.

I still basically doubled my money, but I'd obviously much rather have a better shot at going deep.