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Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
Dude is 42/15 through smallish sample (~40 hands), has check-folded to my CBs a couple times, no other history. I showed down KK a hand or two before this one if he's paying any attention. He paused a little before calling turn, and has $74.10 left on the river.
Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game 6 Players LegoPoker Hand Converter <font color="black">Stack Sizes</font> MP: $40.60 CO: $200 BTN: $284.85 SB: $142.1 BB: $190 Hero (UTG): $276.75 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif ($3, 6 players) <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, MP folds, CO folds, BTN folds, SB calls $6, BB folds <font color="black">Flop:</font> 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($16, 2 players) <font color="red">SB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10 <font color="black">Turn:</font> 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($36, 2 players) <font color="red">SB bets $12</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $52</font>, SB calls $40 <font color="black">River:</font> 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif] ($140, 2 players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $74</font> |
Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
My experience is: Never bluff this kind of player.
He bets in you and will probably raise you all in @ river. Sure he could be afraid of the ace therefore the check on river but I feel he has 7x (could be A7, J7) |
Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
i'm not a huge fan of flop simply because raising these donk leads is very effective and cheaper than double barreling.
god though, after that turn bet, he's just begging for it. kinda risky with the odds he's being laid but these guys never think about these things, just "god i know he hit that ace" i'd prob throw out 100 on the river so as not to look too suspicious, but sure |
Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
whoa, if he's calling the turn, he's not folding much on the river. I also don't like the flop call if I haven't seen him donk before.
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Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
I have a feeling he is not folding anything he called the turn raise with on the river.
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Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
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I have a feeling he is not folding anything he called the turn raise with on the river. [/ QUOTE ] |
Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
Just fold the flop without any history. Given the call I think the turn bluff is fine. Give up on the river, he's getting ~3:1.
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Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
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Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
What do you think he's calling turn with? Do you think he might peel Jx to try to improve or hope for cheap SD and then fold it on the river? Or do you think he has Ax that he's now not letting go of? Or is he just not gonna fold Jx at any point? The river bet only has to work 1/3 of the time to be profitable.
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Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
why do you feel inclined to call his flop bet when the only other history you have is him check/folding the flop multiple times after you raise pre? it probably means he has something.
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Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
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Dude is 42/15 through smallish sample (~40 hands), has check-folded to my CBs a couple times, no other history. I showed down KK a hand or two before this one if he's paying any attention. He paused a little before calling turn, and has $74.10 left on the river. Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game 6 Players LegoPoker Hand Converter <font color="black">Stack Sizes</font> MP: $40.60 CO: $200 BTN: $284.85 SB: $142.1 BB: $190 Hero (UTG): $276.75 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif ($3, 6 players) <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, MP folds, CO folds, BTN folds, SB calls $6, BB folds <font color="black">Flop:</font> 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($16, 2 players) <font color="red">SB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10 <font color="black">Turn:</font> 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($36, 2 players) <font color="red">SB bets $12</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $52</font>, SB calls $40 <font color="black">River:</font> 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif] ($140, 2 players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $74</font> [/ QUOTE ] The range of hands you can get to fold is extremely thin here. I think it's a pretty poor place to bluff. |
Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
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why do you feel inclined to call his flop bet when the only other history you have is him check/folding the flop multiple times after you raise pre? it probably means he has something. [/ QUOTE ] Really? I would think he'd c/r flop or try to stack-a-donk if he actually had something like trips here. I think my overs are likely to be good, and I can do fun stuff like this (WHEE!). |
Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
The only hands I can see you folding out here are like 89, 9T, and 8T of hearts. I could see a donk blocking flop with a gutshot, then calling the turn with his new found FD. You might fold a jack. I dunno, I don't really think this is +EV.
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Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
first of all... bad player to bluff.
second... if it was a good player, i'd call you with a J here a lot. the ace isn't that bad of a scare card to me and an 7 seems unlikely. you raise any flop with QQ+. Unless i've noticed you float alot, i call with KJ. |
Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
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Re: Oops, I did it again! A bluff @ 200nl
<font color="red"> <u>NEVER</font></u> bluff a player who has VP$IP 40+ and calls turn raise.
This has lower EV than calling preflop allin with 72o. |
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