Jamie Gold Meta Game?
 

Gold looks awful. Really lame. Is there any chance he's setting up the entire world by showing everyone this pathetic game? Blowing a couple hundred K figuring it'll come back in extra action down the road.

Or he's a fish.

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he's so bad, you'd think that. but no- he's just that bad.

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he's so bad, you'd think that. but no- he's just that bad.

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The spider just caught another fly.

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He could lose all 12 million in a cash game if he keeps going. A lot of top tournament players ,while not looking as awful as Gold, have certainly found a different game at that high level cash game. Timidity abounds from the bully's of the WPT.

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I loled at the thread title.

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I loled at the thread title.

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Me too, no way Gold has any idea what "Meta Game" is.

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Is there any doubt that Gold is the worst ME winner?

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Is there any doubt that Gold is the worst ME winner?

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varkoni?

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Is there any doubt that Gold is the worst ME winner?

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varkoni?

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They look the same to me.

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Is there any doubt that Gold is the worst ME winner?

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varkoni?

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They look the same to me.

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Gold > Varkonyi > Hal Fowler

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I loled at the thread title.

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Me too, no way Gold has any idea what "Meta Game" is.

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I have no frame of reference save HSP. I really didn't follow his WSOP play or his past history. I guess if you know enough about him you could be certain this is not a set-up but I figure there might be someone out there clever enough to use HSP to sandbag the pros.

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gold is much worse than varkoni

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Jamie never "meta" hand he didn't like

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Jamie never "meta" hand he didn't like

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lol

Watching his HSP play made me groan out loud.

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gold is much worse than varkoni

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If you mean in terms of integrity, sportsmanship, humility, friendliness, and overall likeability, then I agree. If you mean in terms of poker skill (especially their WSOP performances), then I'm pretty sure you're wrong.

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i don't know much about varkoni, but i have to imagine they are a completely different kind of "bad" so that you can't really compare them.

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Think about it one level deeper and you'll get it. It's nearly impossible to play that bad, so it requires great talent in poker. He was losing some other peoples' monies, and setting up future games for himself.

The same with Victor, all up to the final catastrophe just before leaving the table.

Daniel did that earlier succesfully, and it used to be kinda money right after, so everyone is doing it now. Winning big used to be the industry standard, then everybody started losing. So actually winning is kinda money again.

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Think about it one level deeper and you'll get it. It's nearly impossible to play that bad, so it requires great talent in poker. He was losing some other peoples' monies, and setting up future games for himself.

The same with Victor, all up to the final catastrophe just before leaving the table.

Daniel did that earlier succesfully, and it used to be kinda money right after, so everyone is doing it now. Winning big used to be the industry standard, then everybody started losing. So actually winning is kinda money again.

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whatever. he just won 6/12 million and he's going to donk away about 300k on hsp before retiring somehwere hot. he seems like a nice enough guy so good luck to him.

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Think about it one level deeper and you'll get it. It's nearly impossible to play that bad, so it requires great talent in poker. He was losing some other peoples' monies, and setting up future games for himself.

The same with Victor, all up to the final catastrophe just before leaving the table.

Daniel did that earlier succesfully, and it used to be kinda money right after, so everyone is doing it now. Winning big used to be the industry standard, then everybody started losing. So actually winning is kinda money again.

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whatever. he just won 6/12 million and he's going to donk away about 300k on hsp before retiring somehwere hot. he seems like a nice enough guy so good luck to him.

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Wrong on several accounts. 1, he's not going to "retire" to some island any time soon, he's a total action junkie; I predict he's going to continue to play poker to try to prove to people his WSOP win was no fluke (which it was, obv). I think it's also quite possible that he's not too happy now, you can tell from his actions and words that he desperately seeks the approval of those around him, and we are just starting to see the poker community reject him wholesale.

2, um, what? Seems like a nice enough guy? He's an egotistical, borderline-unethical loudmouth. I think you're speaking for a pretty small minority by wishing him luck.

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Think about it one level deeper and you'll get it. It's nearly impossible to play that bad, so it requires great talent in poker. He was losing some other peoples' monies, and setting up future games for himself.

The same with Victor, all up to the final catastrophe just before leaving the table.

Daniel did that earlier succesfully, and it used to be kinda money right after, so everyone is doing it now. Winning big used to be the industry standard, then everybody started losing. So actually winning is kinda money again.

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whatever. he just won 6/12 million and he's going to donk away about 300k on hsp before retiring somehwere hot. he seems like a nice enough guy so good luck to him.

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Wrong on several accounts. 1, he's not going to "retire" to some island any time soon, he's a total action junkie; I predict he's going to continue to play poker to try to prove to people his WSOP win was no fluke (which it was, obv). I think it's also quite possible that he's not too happy now, you can tell from his actions and words that he desperately seeks the approval of those around him, and we are just starting to see the poker community reject him wholesale.

2, um, what? Seems like a nice enough guy? He's an egotistical, borderline-unethical loudmouth. I think you're speaking for a pretty small minority by wishing him luck.

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well first off i dont want to get into an internet messageboard war with you.

i cant say anything about his future plans so that was purely speculative on my part.

i dont agree with egotisitical after seeing him on hsp. he seemed pretty normal. yeah he crossed the line with "top top" but that was 8 months ago. big deal. as for the loudmouth thing, well i enjoyed the aba shush as much as anyone but most of the players on hsp are loudmouths its why they are on tv in the first place. anyway, hes not a great poker player i agree. but im not gonna hate a guy for the rest of my life cos he got lucky and some cards fell his way.

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im not gonna hate a guy for the rest of my life cos he got lucky and some cards fell his way.

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Then hate him because he's apparently a liar who's trying to screw a buddy out of $6 million. You've got a lot of things to choose from with this guy. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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I think it's also quite possible that he's not too happy now, you can tell from his actions and words that he desperately seeks the approval of those around him, and we are just starting to see the poker community reject him wholesale.


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Maybe he's bummed because nobody likes him. When Raymer and Hachem won, they were respected and, well, likeable. As a result, people liked them. It would really suck if one day you woke up and you knew that you're hated by millions of people who don't even know you.


Then you'd go bathe in money.

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I don't mind Jamie

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The funny thing is that you guys don't notice what Gold is doing. If he makes any sort of hand, his style will pay off huge. The problem with his play on HSP was that he started with suited crap and didn't improve.

Just look at Barry. He plays better values on average, but he either hits or bluffs just like Gold. The difference is that people respect Barry and fold, because he does show the nuts from time to time. Gold never made the nuts...

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Yes but what happens when he finally makes a hand. He could win like a 100 million pot because everyone thinks he is bluffing once again. Jamie is smart as a fox!

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Gold < Varkonyi > Hal Fowler

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FYP

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The problem with his play on HSP was that he started with suited crap and didn't improve.


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My memory is a bit different. He started with many unsuited Ace rag hands and small unsuited disconnecters, both groups being stone losers.

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The funny thing is that you guys don't notice what Gold is doing. If he makes any sort of hand, his style will pay off huge. The problem with his play on HSP was that he started with suited crap and didn't improve.

Just look at Barry. He plays better values on average, but he either hits or bluffs just like Gold. The difference is that people respect Barry and fold, because he does show the nuts from time to time. Gold never made the nuts...

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Uh ya, like when he had AA preflop, called, and raised all-in when someone raised? If he had really been setting up the table that whole time (LOL), he would have smooth called the raise and expected to get paid off after the flop. But he didn't, because he's a spazz who doesn't know how to play cash games.

Btw, the funny thing is that I watched his Live at the Bike appearance a while back, and he wasn't nearly as big of a donktard. I wonder if the WSOP win didn't warp his outlook on poker and make him believe that he is good enough to play every hand and win.

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Good to see their inviting the best of recent WSOP winners to the table. I actually think Moneymaker would win in a HU battle! ! !

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I actually think Moneymaker would win in a HU battle! ! !

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That goes without saying. Moneymaker looked pretty good on Poker after Dark.

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Just look at Barry. He plays better values on average, but he either hits or bluffs just like Gold. The difference is that people respect Barry and fold, because he does show the nuts from time to time. Gold never made the nuts...

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Yup. Barry G and Jamie G play a very similar game...














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Gold < Varkonyi > Hal Fowler

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Gold has some strengths to his game. He also can manipulate fish with his table talk, although this is just an obvious tell to most strong pros.

Fowler is by far the weakest. I don't mean to seem prejudiced against Irish, but wealthy businessman Furlong is probably next. Also, grinder pros McEvoy and Daugherty are not stronger than Gold or Varkonyi.