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RAHZero 02-12-2007 09:14 PM

Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
Finished up my first video, pretty straightforward, a little over 45 minutes long.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LP5EPDRK

Hank Scorpio 02-12-2007 09:19 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
I'm expecting a lot from someone going to Cornell [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Hank Scorpio 02-13-2007 02:18 AM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
Just finished watching it. Nice job. I was wondering why you weren't able to move up successfully. Bad cards? You seemed very solid.

I dunno, didn't seem like you really had to make any tough decisions there except that JJ hand like you said. I would have let that hand go too btw. I put him on the same range you did if he's as good as you say.

Here's some small things I noticed that you might want to think about:

1. It seemed like you made your CBs too high sometimes on really plain board. One time the flop came A and two blanks rainbow and you fired a CB of $4.50 into a $5.50 pot. That's a little too high IMO. I think a bet of $3.50 and even sometimes $3 gets the job done there.

2. One hand the you 88 and the flop came 2 2 9. You were OOP and checked the flop to the loose PF raiser and called his bet, which was good. But then another blank came off and you checked again on the turn, which he checked behind, too. I think you should bet that turn around 70% of the pot to protect from any overs.

3. I thought you were a little too passive on the button one or two times. Not a big deal but I think it adds up in the long run.

RAHZero 02-13-2007 02:40 AM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
Thanks for the comments. Yeah, NL 100 was rough, I dropped 4 buy-ins on the first night there (bad play and bad cards), then actually did really well. Made up almost all of the 4 buy-ins on the next day, and won steadily for a few days. Beginning of February was just cold as ice though, and I decided to drop back down and rebuild.

C-bets I have been consciously trying to make bigger lately, after watching a few videos. My c-bets were getting called way too frequently before, when I was regularly betting 2/3's or so of the pot. But yeah, I'm probably getting a little carried away at times there while trying to adjust.

Definitely agree with the 88 hand, that's one spot that I've been playing too passively lately.

As far as the button, while re-doing the voice-over I noticed spots where I definitely could have raised. The KJo with the loose-passive limper ahead of me was one in particular that stuck out.

JNuey 02-13-2007 02:43 AM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
A little off topic, but I take it I have to download the megaupload thing to watch this video?

RAHZero 02-13-2007 02:49 AM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
I've downloaded other people's Megaupload video's without ever downloading the toolbar. I think if you click the link and click stop on your browser before the page redirects you should be OK.

beecass 02-13-2007 04:43 AM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable

VPIP100 02-13-2007 07:57 AM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
It works here, just watched it.

You play very solid and doing quite well, you ran a bit hot without to much difficult decisions.

I totally agree with scorpio, you lose alot of value by c-betting to high and seem some-what passive on later streets/blind battles and limped pots. Middle/bottom pair checked to you on flop and turn is an easy bet, don't let them hit for free.

Im curious how high your bankroll and winrate is, mind sharing?

jonyy6788 02-13-2007 12:35 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
good vid bud

BoozeHound 02-13-2007 01:07 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
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2. One hand the you 88 and the flop came 2 2 9. You were OOP and checked the flop to the loose PF raiser and called his bet, which was good. But then another blank came off and you checked again on the turn, which he checked behind, too. I think you should bet that turn around 70% of the pot to protect from any overs.


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This seems silly. We don't have to bet 70% of the pot to protect against overs. 50% is plenty, and may even get stupidly called by overs (which is a good thing). betting purely for protection is a bad idea.

Hank Scorpio 02-13-2007 01:15 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
Only problem with betting 50% is that it looks extremely weak and if someone only bets 50% into me there I'm probably raising.

.KeviN. 02-13-2007 01:20 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
RAH.. yea i remember seein you alot when i first started playing UB, didnt know u were 2p2...move back up i dont wanna have to deal with ANOTHER regular on these tables. anyway nice session, how much of a hassle was it to go thru everythin to make the vid?

BoozeHound 02-13-2007 01:32 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
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Only problem with betting 50% is that it looks extremely weak and if someone only bets 50% into me there I'm probably raising.

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Fair enough, but my point is more that betting purely for "protection" against 6 outs seems silly. I'm not a big fan of betting just to protect my hand in general, so I don't really like betting in this situation for only that reason, and choosing an amount that only gets called by hands that beat us. If you are betting, I think you should choose an amount that both offers incorrect odds, and potentially adds some value.

Hank Scorpio 02-13-2007 01:51 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
If you check that turn and an over comes and your opponent bets pot, you have a very tough decision to make. Poker is about making these decisions easy to make. Maybe 60% of the pot is a better bet.

JP9 02-13-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
can someone re-upload the video its not working

jonyy6788 02-13-2007 02:21 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
Still working for me.....

M4in 02-13-2007 03:20 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
How can I get the sound working?

SCBielski 02-13-2007 04:34 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
Great video. I'm about to move up to $50NL 6-max on UB so this is very helpful for me. btw, I liked your HUD layout, any chance you could share that?

Check_The_Nuts 02-13-2007 04:46 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
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If you check that turn and an over comes and your opponent bets pot, you have a very tough decision to make. Poker is about making these decisions easy to make. Maybe 60% of the pot is a better bet.

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yeah because easy decisions mean that your making money. I mean someone bets into me, I just raise with top pair, because that makes the hand easy to play. If he 3bets me or calls, I know I'm beat and can shut down to further agression. If he folds I know I had the best hand.

wait a second, that can't be right.....

Hank I seriously never agree with any of your posts, sorry man....I think the line of check/calling then leading the turn on a 2 2 9 board is going to look weak no matter what. There's nothing you can really do about it, whether you check/call and bet pot or check/call and bet half pot.

oh pretty pumped to watch this, since I currently play at UB and I think i actually played on said day. unlikely you ran into me though, but I may recognize names...

Hank Scorpio 02-13-2007 04:51 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
Haha, you don't have to be sorry check. I think checking the flop betting the turn is a stronger line. You don't have to apologize for not agreeing.

I 12 table at FT and make a nice profit for .25/.50. As long as were making money, it doesn't matter what strategy we use.

RAHZero 02-13-2007 04:56 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
Thanks for all the comments. A couple answers to random questions:

1. Making a video with Camtasia is pretty easy, the hardest part was getting the audio to work. For some reason, my audio wasn't getting captured, even though I can "see" it under the audio track after the video is done (you can "see" the sound waves, etc.). So I had to redo the voice narration over again. Other than that, it's a snap.

2. If the audio doesn't work, make sure you're using Windows Media Player. You might need to download an audio codec, try the TechSmith one here .

3. Here's a pic of my HUD layout:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8872/hudlayoutkc9.png

Check_The_Nuts 02-13-2007 05:27 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
question: How do you get the hand history box to not appear and still be able to import hands?

versus the ambus guy, when he's on SB he seems to raise a lot. I know I sometimes steal with nearly any two against tighties, so you may want to ocassionally reraise with trash or start callign slightly light. could just be sample size, I only saw him play like 20 hands tops...

RAHZero 02-13-2007 05:42 PM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
I use the old version of UB, so I don't have the HH problems. I think you can get it from the PokerTracker forums. You won't be able to play the new games they have, but you can always install the new version if you want to play HORSE or whatever and then reinstall the old version when you're done. As far as them not popping up, they take focus but I drag them to the bottom corner of my screen so that they don't get in the way.

As far as blind defense, for now I prefer to still play tight from the blinds, unless someone gets really out of hand. At higher limits I'll definitely need to adjust more, but for now I think it's better to let them steal light occassionally than to get involved with marginal holdings when there's so much profit to be won in other situations.

Miraculix 02-15-2007 07:26 AM

Re: Video: 4-tabling NL $50 6-max (UB)
 
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I 12 table at FT and make a nice profit for .25/.50. As long as were making money, it doesn't matter what strategy we use.

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Hi.
First to OP: Nice vid. I play some at UB too but at the $25. Will there be a next one??

Hank: Whatīs the secret to make good money at FT? I joined them in the end of january, and I think itīs really hard to find tables with more than 1-2 players with a VPIP above 30. It seems most players are nits playing like 20/15 and I find it hard to make any money out of them, if I donīt hit hard (and usually I donīt!). I can steal their blinds but that way it takes forever to make a few bucks. What to do??

// M


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