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Is there a more unbeatable record than Cy Young's record for most losses of 316? I know there are a lot of records that people say are unbeatable but this has got to be at the top. There are few people that will win 300 games these days much less lose 300. His wins record is equally impressive. However, there could be some superhuman kid come in and be completly dominant and has like a 110mph fastball, a 70 mph change-up, and a curve with a break of like 3 feet and win 500 games. I just don't think a team would sign a guy with 200 losses.

With starters only pitching every five days, baseball has changed greatly. Is there, in the other 3 major sports, something that has made some records totally unbreakable?

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I guess if you found a pretty good pitcher who spent his whole career in Kansas City (like 20+ years), it might be doable. I can't imagine that anyone would put up with that though.

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I think it's fairly likely that at some point in the future pitchers started throwing a lot more innings than they do now, which would make that record attainable.

I seriously doubt anyone will ever beat Fernando Tatis or Johnny Van Der Meer's records though.

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Is there a more unbeatable record than Cy Young's record for most losses of 316?

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yes, Cy Young, total decisions, 827

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rickey henderson's SB record is pretty safe, i'd say

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yes, Cy Young, total decisions, 827

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I think Tatis' 2 Grand Slams in one inning is a bit harder to beat.

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Actually, Chan Ho Park's allowing 2 slams in one inning is even harder to beat!

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yes, Cy Young, total decisions, 827

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I think Tatis' 2 Grand Slams in one inning is a bit harder to beat.

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well neither is going to happen. but records that take 1 hour to break are generally easier than records that will take 30 years to break.

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2 consecutive no hitters. To beat it you'd have to throw 3 in a row.

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Career pitching wins and losses records are so unbreakable it's almost not even worth discussing.

What's more interesting are single season records. What's the most unbreakable single season record?

Wilt's 50.4 ppg?
Wilt's 27.2 rpg?
Gretzky's 92 goals?
Gretzky's 163 assists?
Gretzky's 215 points?

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Assani Fisher for most threads started in a short period of time?

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Losing the most eh? Impressive!

The record I think is the most unbeatable, isn't all that impressive either, though.
Kratochvilova's 1:53.38 in the 800m is so insanely good, it will stand for many decades still (it's stood for nearly a quarter of a century already).

The greatest female 800m runner of all time, four time world champion Maria Mutola, has barely been within two seconds of the record.

The reason, of course, for my lack of awe over Kratochvilova's performance is based in the fact that she was a gruesome medical experiment with 99.99% certainity.

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Career pitching wins and losses records are so unbreakable it's almost not even worth discussing.

What's more interesting are single season records. What's the most unbreakable single season record?

Wilt's 50.4 ppg?
Wilt's 27.2 rpg?
Gretzky's 92 goals?
Gretzky's 163 assists?
Gretzky's 215 points?

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With the NHL possible increasing net sizes and its attempts to increase scoring I think we could see Sidney Crosby take a run at some of Gretzky's records.

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I posted this in the most impressive records broken in the last 20 years thread, but winning the US Open by 15 shots is the only recent feat I can think of that could still be standing next century.

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I don't think Ted Hendricks' record of 25 blocked kicks will be broken. You don't have defensive tackles & backup QB's kicking square-toe anymore, for starters.

Archie Moore's 141 career KO's might last awhile, too.

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Hank Aaron's HR record.

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Joe Louis - 11 1/2 years Undisputed Heavyweight Champion

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Career pitching wins and losses records are so unbreakable it's almost not even worth discussing.

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btw, Clemens and Maddux basically just finished (probably) the best pitching careers of the modern era. (not peak years, but performance * years pitched). they are both almost 60% of the way to Young's record. they each need about 10 more years of 30ish decisions to catch him...or until Maddux is 50, and Clemens is 52

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yes, Cy Young, total decisions, 827

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cy young's WINS record is harder to break than the losses
I think Tatis' 2 Grand Slams in one inning is a bit harder to beat.

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I think one day we will discover various types of performance-enhancing and career-extending drugs that will lead to athletes retiring in their late 40's/early 50's, eventually even longer than that. Well, actually, somebody probably already has and his name is Roger Clemens, but it will go more mainstream in due time. All of these records will then be broken.

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I think one day we will discover various types of performance-enhancing and career-extending drugs that will lead to athletes retiring in their late 40's/early 50's, eventually even longer than that. Well, actually, somebody probably already has and his name is Roger Clemens, but it will go more mainstream in due time. All of these records will then be broken.

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I dont know about Clemens cheating, but I think any record that involves playing for a long time will eventually fall because as people live longer they will inevitably have longer careers. I think the two grand slams in an inning is a lot harder than the Cy Young Record because eventually a Ricky Henderson of pitching will come along and play forever and get all the records.

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Roger Clemens has played for a very long time.

He is, perhaps, the best pitcher of all time.

He has 60% of Cy's wins.

The way baseball is played today, there is essentially a 0% chance that Cy's win record will be broken. The way pitchers are used (or the way wins are tracked) will have to change dramatically for that record to ever be approached.

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I think both are possible.

Think in terms of a rotation of a bunch of guys going 3 innings at a shot.
Starter currently wouldn't qualify for the win if he goes less than 5. So some middle-reliever could rack up a ton of wins.

With some of the crappy rotations out there one wonders if it's possible something like this could happen 20-30 yrs from now.


Also, better weight-training and nutrition will absolutely lead to longer careers.
Wasn't too long ago that that kind of stuff was taken quite so seriously.

The knuckle-ball isn't completely dead and has allowed guys like the Niekro's and Wakefield to stay in the game for a long time. Another knuckler, getting more frequent appearances, and staying in shape and eating well MIGHT have a chance to approach it.


I agree that it's pretty unlikely. When you look at a Clemens-like career and see how far away he still is it looks pretty impossible.
Just trying to think of different changes that could happen that could make it possible.

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I think the two grand slams in an inning is a lot harder than the Cy Young Record because eventually a Ricky Henderson of pitching will come along and play forever and get all the records

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Ricky played for 25 seasons. Clemens has played 23

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For non-career type records, it's probably Gretzky's 50 goals in 39 games. Even his career records are probably safe forever. Unless the NHL makes drastic changes, goaltenders are so much better now than in the 80's, I can't ever see somebody beating his career totals.

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Archie Moore's 141 career KO's might last awhile, too.

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This is a lot like some pitching records. Pitcher's don't go CGs every start anymore. Boxers don't have 100+ fights. Hell, most don't even have 50 fights.

I'd be really surprised if this one gets anywhere close to being touched.

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Wilt's 100 points.

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Wilt's 100 points.

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There are some guys in the NBA right now that could could make a run at this. It has more to do with actually trying to run it up and get it than actual ability.

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Wilt's 100 points.

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There are some guys in the NBA right now that could could make a run at this. It has more to do with actually trying to run it up and get it than actual ability.

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Agreed. This one will fall eventually. It's more about the situation than the player.

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Cy Young is the answer, but nobody mentioned the right record.

749 complete games.

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Ripken's consecutive games?

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Oh wtf. Juste Fontain scoring 13 goals in one World Cup (ranked 3rd all-time just from that cup, behind Ronaldo and Gerd Müller)

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Oh wtf. Juste Fontain scoring 13 goals in one World Cup (ranked 3rd all-time just from that cup, behind Ronaldo and Gerd Müller)

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I could see it.

It would have to be a very top team and they would have to get a draw with two easy teams and a third that isn't very good. In that situation, because the WC has such unbalanced matches, I could see a guy getting 9 or 10 goals in the group stage and then adding another 3 or 4 from there to the final.

The main problem with this is that most likely they would clinch and the star would sit out that last group stage game. Eh, you're probably right.

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n/m

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Edwin Moses - 107 straight finals wins in the 400 hurdles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Moses

Totally absurd.

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Hank Aaron's 755 home runs.

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Hank Aaron's 755 home runs.

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Why do people keep saying this? Bonds, Pujols, and A-Rod each have a shot at it. This, like milk, was a bad choice.

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I assumed they were joking since it is so obviously it will be broken someday.
If they were serious then they are idiots.

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Cy Young is the answer, but nobody mentioned the right record.

749 complete games.

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Wow, yeah this is the one. I also like the Tatis record because being in the situation of hitting three times in an inning is rare, add that to having the bases loaded each time, add that to hitting a home rune each time = impossible.
My friend suggested that Randy Johnson's record of most birds killed with a fastball in an inning is pretty safe as well.