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Holding his cards close
Barack Obama is the perfect political poker player: patient, humble and willing to take a risk
Sheldon Alberts, CanWest News Service
Saturday, February 10, 2007

Long before he became a political rock star with designs on the White House, Barack Obama was known to friends in the Illinois legislature as a fearsome card player.

During weekly games of Texas Hold 'Em, he played a tight style of poker -- patiently waiting for the right cards, folding when dealt a bad hand and taking few unnecessary risks.

"He knew the chances of winning and he knew he was going to walk out of there even or ahead almost every time," says Terry Link, an Illinois state senator and former poker partner who had his wallet emptied by Mr. Obama on many occasions.

Ottawa Citizen article

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Do you have the pokertracker numbers to prove this?

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graphs?

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Do you have the pokertracker numbers to prove this?

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27/14/2.6 over ~600. Notes: "3bet QJo sb to co stl, 2x cr'd my bb in blind war J22 turn J chkcalled blank riv w/Ahigh, DNC 04 good spedch"

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Do you have the pokertracker numbers to prove this?

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27/14/2.6 over ~600. Notes: "3bet QJo sb to co stl, 2x cr'd my bb in blind war J22 turn J chkcalled blank riv w/Ahigh, DNC 04 good spedch"

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lol

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Do you have the pokertracker numbers to prove this?

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27/14/2.6 over ~600. Notes: "3bet QJo sb to co stl, 2x cr'd my bb in blind war J22 turn J chkcalled blank riv w/Ahigh, DNC 04 good spedch"

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NH sir.

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Sounds weak tight.

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I don't believe he has a very good shot at the presidency. But one wonders if an actual poker-player in the White House might help things out on this whole online-poker legal situation.
Couldn't hurt.

No idea what his thoughts were on the UIGA though.

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Idk the more and more I read about Obama in the snippets his press secretary lets out I get the image of SPIKETV in my head. It seems like he is catering to them IDK

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I don't believe he has a very good shot at the presidency. But one wonders if an actual poker-player in the White House might help things out on this whole online-poker legal situation.
Couldn't hurt.

No idea what his thoughts were on the UIGA though.

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One of Truman's favorite pasttimes was five card draw. According to David McCullough he was very LAG.

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does anyone else think the Republicans are pushing Obama, in case Hillary Clinton wins the nomination, and they need to garner votes from blacks/minorities (that typically turns out in low numbers voting, but would likely come out strong in support of a black Presidential candidate)

IMO the Dem's were going to tout Hillary as the 'first woman pres', and the Repub's are 'playing back' by introducing 'The 1st Black pres candidate'

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does anyone else think the Republicans are pushing Obama, in case Hillary Clinton wins the nomination, and they need to garner votes from blacks/minorities (that typically turns out in low numbers voting, but would likely come out strong in support of a black Presidential candidate)

IMO the Dem's were going to tout Hillary as the 'first woman pres', and the Repub's are 'playing back' by introducing 'The 1st Black pres candidate'

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This poster is an American living in California! How hard can it be to keep track in a 2 party state?

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Do you have the pokertracker numbers to prove this?

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27/14/2.6 over ~600. Notes: "3bet QJo sb to co stl, 2x cr'd my bb in blind war J22 turn J chkcalled blank riv w/Ahigh, DNC 04 good spedch"

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But how much did he lose?

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does anyone else think the Republicans are pushing Obama, in case Hillary Clinton wins the nomination, and they need to garner votes from blacks/minorities (that typically turns out in low numbers voting, but would likely come out strong in support of a black Presidential candidate)

IMO the Dem's were going to tout Hillary as the 'first woman pres', and the Repub's are 'playing back' by introducing 'The 1st Black pres candidate'

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This poster is an American living in California! How hard can it be to keep track in a 2 party state?

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lol I think..... I think I was saying that, if the Dems nominate some *old white guy* then maybe the Republicans counter with *some other old white guy*, as it looks- we may get the "1st Female Pres. candidate vs. the '1st Black presidential candidate -

an observation really, another one: this site is kinda slow sometimes - and I don't mean the servers -

btw: thanks my TV works fine here in CA

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I really like this guy. Probably be the first time I ever vote, has nothing to do with poker, he's just a good sharp dude.

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does anyone else think the Republicans are pushing Obama, in case Hillary Clinton wins the nomination, and they need to garner votes from blacks/minorities (that typically turns out in low numbers voting, but would likely come out strong in support of a black Presidential candidate)

IMO the Dem's were going to tout Hillary as the 'first woman pres', and the Repub's are 'playing back' by introducing 'The 1st Black pres candidate'

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This poster is an American living in California! How hard can it be to keep track in a 2 party state?

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lol I think..... I think I was saying that, if the Dems nominate some *old white guy* then maybe the Republicans counter with *some other old white guy*, as it looks- we may get the "1st Female Pres. candidate vs. the '1st Black presidential candidate -

an observation really, another one: this site is kinda slow sometimes - and I don't mean the servers -

btw: thanks my TV works fine here in CA

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lol, maybe you should pay more attention to it

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Absolutely the Repubs are pushing Obama.
This seems pretty obvious to me but is still a wonderful observation on many levels.
But they need to watchout because the Dems are surely going to counter with a strong push for McCain.
I also heard that the Green Party is engaged in serious talks with Pat Buchanan as their 2008 candidate.

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It's entirely possible I'm just missing something here b/c I don't follow politics anymore... but are like 1/2 the people in this thead unaware that Obama is a Democrat?

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It's entirely possible I'm just missing something here b/c I don't follow politics anymore... but are like 1/2 the people in this thead unaware that Obama is a Democrat?

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You just ruined the fun.

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does anyone else think the Republicans are pushing Obama, in case Hillary Clinton wins the nomination, and they need to garner votes from blacks/minorities (that typically turns out in low numbers voting, but would likely come out strong in support of a black Presidential candidate)

IMO the Dem's were going to tout Hillary as the 'first woman pres', and the Repub's are 'playing back' by introducing 'The 1st Black pres candidate'

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Wow, just wow.

qfi-quoted for ignorance

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Im so confused. I though all sorts of leveling was going on. Now I dont know who is serious and who isnt!

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I hear he's clean and articulate.

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Absolutely the Repubs are pushing Obama.
This seems pretty obvious to me but is still a wonderful observation on many levels.
But they need to watchout because the Dems are surely going to counter with a strong push for McCain.
I also heard that the Green Party is engaged in serious talks with Pat Buchanan as their 2008 candidate.

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This is spot on. I heard it from my liberal source Bill O'Reilly. I like him, but sometimes he is almost too liberal. Republicans haven't had a good president since Clinton.

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Absolutely the Repubs are pushing Obama.
This seems pretty obvious to me but is still a wonderful observation on many levels.
But they need to watchout because the Dems are surely going to counter with a strong push for McCain.
I also heard that the Green Party is engaged in serious talks with Pat Buchanan as their 2008 candidate.

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This is spot on. I heard it from my liberal source Bill O'Reilly. I like him, but sometimes he is almost too liberal. Republicans haven't had a good president since Clinton.

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I want to add a conservative tone to this liberal thread. You libs can slurp your boy O'reilly all day, but the fact of the matter is Al Franken and Bill Mahr are the most rational minds from the school of conservative thought since Lenin.

Anna Nicole '08

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I don't believe he has a very good shot at the presidency.

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I think some of you that are not giving Obama a good chance for Presidency are really unaware how popular Obama is on college campuses.

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I think some of you that are not giving Obama a good chance for Presidency are really unaware how popular Obama is on college campuses.

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Since when do college camupuses decide who runs things in the White House? Must have been a lot of College students in Ohio in '04 and Florida in '00 to turn the tides.... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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black person = democrat

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I don't believe he has a very good shot at the presidency.

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I think some of you that are not giving Obama a good chance for Presidency are really unaware how popular Obama is on college campuses.

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well then its a good thing an even smaller % of young americans vote than other americans !!

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LOL at IGNORANT LIBERALS. I thought you guys learned your lesson with your HORRIBLE presidents: Nixon (had to leave), Raegan (lost his memory), Palmer (assassinated)... the list goes on.

Please make the stop being tricked by the media.

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Wasn't Nixon quite the card player in the Navy?

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Bill O'Reilly? He's just like Rush Limbaugh. WAY too iberal for me.............

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Wasn't Nixon quite the card player in the Navy?

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Yes, he funded his presidential campaign partly through poker winnings.

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Wasn't Nixon quite the card player in the Navy?

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Yes, he funded his presidential campaign partly through poker winnings.

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There was a congressional card game for years on Capital Hill. Both R&D played. Tip O'Neil was a solid, no action Boston gambler, he had the best record in the game. He said Nixon was a fish and had to get hit by the deck to win.

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I really like this guy. Probably be the first time I ever vote, has nothing to do with poker, he's just a good sharp dude.

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I guess you missed his skin color?

<font color="white"> I'm joking you nits. It's sad this guy could never win because he is black. </font>

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Truman was a monster poker player, Nixon was a big winner in the Navy but rumors of cheating dogged him. Many, many presidents have played and you can bet almost any of them could be good if they wanted to. Clinton would probably be a donk in cash games because he needs action but could be a stud in tourneys. Bush Sr. would probably be tag. The only recent Pres. I can't see being good at poker is the current one, W. just seems like a dummy and the type who'd spend all night whining about bad beats.

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The only recent Pres. I can't see being good at poker is the current one, W. just seems like a dummy and the type who'd spend all night whining about bad beats.

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no no no... he would never whine about bad beats because that would mean admitting he lost... he is the typical losing player who swears he "way way up"

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Wasn't Nixon quite the card player in the Navy?

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Yes, he funded his presidential campaign partly through poker winnings.

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The rumor is that he partially funded his '46 congressional campaign through poker.

In his autobiography, Nixon wrote: "I learned that the people who have the cards are usually the ones who talk the least and the softest; those who are bluffing tend to talk loudly and give themselves away."

Take that, Caro.

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I hear he's clean and articulate.

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Put him about a 6 before, but now poker. A solid 9.

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obama = manchurian candidate