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miami32 02-11-2007 04:14 PM

Mom flips off another driver while driving, guy makes passive threats.
 
So today the moms and I are out driving to pick up a new space heater. We are pulling into the shopping center and this guy in front of us all of a sudden comes to a halt, puts his car in reverse, and backs up to pull into a parking space. My mom flips out and gives him the finger as we drive by. The second we go by, this man guns his engine and follows us to our parking space. He pulls up as both my mom and I are getting out of her blazer and says "Hey, I waved to you to say thanks. Why did you have to go off and give me the finger?" Now he doesn't say this like he is really angry. I mean he seemed annoyed, but nothing I would consider threatening at the point. My mom just keeps walking and I follow her. Well as we are entering the store I see him turn his car around and head back to our blazer. So I tell the moms to go inside and I'm gonna see what the [censored] is going on. I run to our truck and he is writing down the tags and make and model. At least that is what I figure he is doing. I ask him what exactly he is doing and he tells me, "You guys don't know who you're [censored] with."

I then responded with a dude are you serious, this is a little old lady and your going to cause problems? He nodded. He then told me to have a nice day with a dickish smile and gave a crappy salute to me as he drove off.

Now the thing is, this man drove a honda civic red hatchback that had a bad exhaust, and ugly cheap looking black rims. If he was important I would imagine he drove a nicer car. I feel like if he was a criminal, we would have got into some sort of physical altercation.

I called the cops and they basically said the only thing we could do is file a threat report. I got his tag # as well just in case.

The strangest part about is at no point did he seemed really angry, just annoyed and bent on revenge.

What is my play?

miami32 02-11-2007 04:20 PM

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Also,I heard there was a way to get your info off of the dmv. Is this possible?

BigBiceps 02-11-2007 04:29 PM

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Just forget about it.

Ricky_Bobby 02-11-2007 04:31 PM

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Good reason not to flip off people you don't know. I thought people grew out of that behavior at some point in their lives.

daryn 02-11-2007 04:31 PM

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yet another reason why flipping anyone off at any time is an incredibly dumb idea, especially if you are particularly feeble or a woman

theben 02-11-2007 04:32 PM

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keep his tag # and dont forget it.

this is probably an idle threat from some poor joe six-pack. if you are unlucky and he is a psycho, at least you'll be able to hunt him down for revenge should anything come of this.

chopstick 02-11-2007 04:38 PM

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What is my play?

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Hard to say at this point.. I want to wait and hear TxRedMan's side of the story first.

Steven_Q_Erkel 02-11-2007 04:41 PM

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Call the police immediately

illeagle 02-11-2007 04:45 PM

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I probably would have told the guy something like, "I have your tag number, if anything happens to us, the police will be coming your way to investigate." Then I'd flip him off very vigorously, with BOTH hands, jump around some and start screaming "YEAH I'M FLIPPING YOU OFF SO [censored] HARD!!! YOU SHOULD FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO HURT ME CUZ MY MIDDLE FINGERS ARE SO RIDGED AND STIFF AND POINTED UP TOWARD THE SKY! YEAH YOU CAN'T HELP BUT HAVE YOUR FEELINGS HURT BY MY STIFF MIDDLE FINGERS, THEY'RE OH SO RIDGED AND YET KISSABLY SUPPLE! YEEEEAHHH HURT ME HURT ME HURT ME HURT ME..." until he leaves.

miami32 02-11-2007 04:46 PM

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While I do understand that flipping off the guy was clearly the wrong move, that is neither here nor there. She did it. It's done. She has a bad temper. But that isn't the point of the post. I only thinking about safety issues now. She has called the police and filed a report. I'm just wondering if there is anything I can do other then that now at this point.

scotchnrocks 02-11-2007 04:46 PM

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Judging someone's socioeconomic status by the car they drive can be a poor metric. Very common for people who worked their way through life and earned a lot of money through hard work to drive beaters like this. Others just don't want the attention.

Sounds like you're in the wrong more than he is. All he did was back up to get that spot. Your mom sounds like a real winner with a lot of class judging by her reaction. I doubt he will do anything, but who knows...he may have contacts in the DMV or some other way to legally make your life a living hell for being a douchebag when all he wanted was an apology.

prohornblower 02-11-2007 04:48 PM

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I'll chime in in agreement with those who said flipping people off is a pretty bad idea. Tell your mom she's not 17 anymore. As it is, I don't know what to do. I wouldn't worry about it though.

You said she drives a Blazer, not a TANK. Tell her she's not invincible in her SUV. Seems so many people think this.

miami32 02-11-2007 04:49 PM

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The funny thing is, that is exactly how I felt. Like who cares. It's a lady giving you the finger. Like get over it. If you harm a 50 year old woman, will you feel better about yourself? Will that make you sleep better. Way to be a big man, I'm sure your parents and friends are proud.

miami32 02-11-2007 04:51 PM

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Okay so let me get this straight, you are saying that if a woman gives you the finger, when you almost hit her, and you ask her for an apology and she says no you have the right to make her life a living hell? And that makes you the winner? I'm not debating that her act wasn't childish, but that logic is sad, very sad.

miami32 02-11-2007 04:53 PM

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And mr. scotchnrocks, I wasn't judging him, I was just assesing the situation. Your theory on him not wanting attention is wrong because if he didn't want attention he wouldn't have spent money on an exhaust that could be heard 100 feet away and on extremely ugly rims. That would well, not make very much sense.

scotchnrocks 02-11-2007 04:59 PM

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Okay so let me get this straight, you are saying that if a woman gives you the finger, when you almost hit her, and you ask her for an apology and she says no you have the right to make her life a living hell? And that makes you the winner? I'm not debating that her act wasn't childish, but that logic is sad, very sad.

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You left out the part where he almost hit ya'll.

He seemed to have acted reasonable by asking why you had to flip him off. All your mom had to say was sorry it's been a long day, etc. and it would have been over with right there. Instead she continues with her douchbaggery and the guy obviously gets upset.

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And mr. scotchnrocks, I wasn't judging him, I was just assesing the situation. Your theory on him not wanting attention is wrong because if he didn't want attention he wouldn't have spent money on an exhaust that could be heard 100 feet away and on extremely ugly rims. That would well, not make very much sense.

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You didn't give me that information at first. But now I agree that he's pretty much a nobody. You and your mom could have still shown a little decency instead of escalating the situation.

Hold'em 07 02-11-2007 05:00 PM

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Miami,

Is there some other method of parking that you know about?

Stop, reverse, park.

recondite7 02-11-2007 05:01 PM

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Giving people the finger is fine, they usually deserve it. Some idiot kept honking at me while I was going 35 through a school zone while christmas holidays were going on. So I finally flicked the guy off and the jackass speeds up in front of me, cuts me off and stops. Then he gets out of his van and he ends up being a policeman. At this point I think oh crap, but I am very curious what is going to happen. The guy starts whining about how I probably feel really smart right now and I'll think next time before I flick someone off.

I just nodded and agreed, but I believe he was in the wrong I was not posing a danger, he was not in an area where his police force worked, and he was not in a policecar while he stopped traffic in the middle of the street. He couldn't give me a ticket because he obviously would have if it was legal because he hated me obviously. I got great pride while I watched his fat ass walk back to the car accomplishing nothing.

Moral of the story: I hate cops, flick people off if you feel like it.

Sponger. 02-11-2007 05:02 PM

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He seemed to have acted reasonable by asking why you had to flip him off.

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Um according to the OP he pulled out of the parking spot and sped to where the OP was parking and asked them what the problem was, they chose to ignore him (rightly so) and then he gets all psycho on them. Do you really think he would have kept being "reasonable" had they responded?

Sponger. 02-11-2007 05:04 PM

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Giving people the finger is fine, they usually deserve it. Some idiot kept honking at me while I was going 35 through a school zone while christmas holidays were going on. So I finally flicked the guy off and the jackass speeds up in front of me, cuts me off and stops. Then he gets out of his van and he ends up being a policeman. At this point I think oh crap, but I am very curious what is going to happen. The guy starts whining about how I probably feel really smart right now and I'll think next time before I flick someone off.

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I probably would have called the police as soon as this happened. Either that or pepper sprayed him when he approached my car, then call the cops.

scotchnrocks 02-11-2007 05:06 PM

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He seemed to have acted reasonable by asking why you had to flip him off.

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Um according to the OP he pulled out of the parking spot and sped to where the OP was parking and asked them what the problem was, they chose to ignore him (rightly so) and then he gets all psycho on them. Do you really think he would have kept being "reasonable" had they responded?

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Sponger, if you flicked me off in a parking lot where it would be very easy for me to see what the problem is, yes, I would approach you calmly, as this guy did in this situation. If the guy said what is in quotes in the first paragraph, and the mom apologized just to be done with it, don't you think it would have been all over right then?

Being passive-aggressive in situations like this is asking for trouble.

LeapFrog 02-11-2007 05:07 PM

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He seemed to have acted reasonable by asking why you had to flip him off.

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Um according to the OP he pulled out of the parking spot and sped to where the OP was parking and asked them what the problem was, they chose to ignore him (rightly so) and then he gets all psycho on them. Do you really think he would have kept being "reasonable" had they responded?

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QFT -- 99.8% chance this guy is a psycho. Who starts writing down someones license plate after being flipped off by a 50 year old woman? And who says [censored] like 'You guys don't know who you're [censored] with' when the [censored] with in question was being flipped off and OP going to see what he is doing near their car.

Good call on calling the cops.

Magikist 02-11-2007 05:08 PM

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to be very honest, scotch, you sound like the biggest douchebag in this thread.

Sponger. 02-11-2007 05:10 PM

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Sponger, if you flicked me off in a parking lot where it would be very easy for me to see what the problem is, yes, I would approach you calmly, as this guy did in this situation.

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How is pulling out of the spot you just pulled into and speeding up to the other car doing anything calm?

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If the guy said what is in quotes in the first paragraph, and the mom apologized just to be done with it, don't you think it would have been all over right then?

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Given that the other person does things like this...

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I ask him what exactly he is doing and he tells me, "You guys don't know who you're [censored] with."

I then responded with a dude are you serious, this is a little old lady and your going to cause problems? He nodded. He then told me to have a nice day with a dickish smile and gave a crappy salute to me as he drove off.

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No I don't think it would have been all over right then. Maybe if the guy was a normal, reasonable person then yes it would have been over. But given what we know about the other person I don't think it would have had a happy ending if the OP's mom would have just said sorry.

scotchnrocks 02-11-2007 05:12 PM

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to be very honest, scotch, you sound like the biggest douchebag in this thread.

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wow, you came out of the woodwork to post that...i guess i would be in the wrong if i retaliated so i'll hold my breath [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

recondite7 02-11-2007 05:12 PM

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Giving people the finger is fine, they usually deserve it. Some idiot kept honking at me while I was going 35 through a school zone while christmas holidays were going on. So I finally flicked the guy off and the jackass speeds up in front of me, cuts me off and stops. Then he gets out of his van and he ends up being a policeman. At this point I think oh crap, but I am very curious what is going to happen. The guy starts whining about how I probably feel really smart right now and I'll think next time before I flick someone off.

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I probably would have called the police as soon as this happened. Either that or pepper sprayed him when he approached my car, then call the cops.

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Yeah it was more scary when the car first pulled me over, when I saw it was a big bad cop and not some pissed off recneck/a scary looking *insert your own racial slur here* it was almost laughable.

scotchnrocks 02-11-2007 05:14 PM

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Sponger, you missed the first thing that happened when he pulled up.

"Hey, I waved to you to say thanks. Why did you have to go off and give me the finger?" Now he doesn't say this like he is really angry. I mean he seemed annoyed, but nothing I would consider threatening at the point.

That doesn't sound too unreasonable to me. Not that I would really approach you. What does she expect when she flips off people in rimmed up Civics?

LeapFrog 02-11-2007 05:17 PM

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Sponger, you missed the first thing that happened when he pulled up.

"Hey, I waved to you to say thanks. Why did you have to go off and give me the finger?" Now he doesn't say this like he is really angry. I mean he seemed annoyed, but nothing I would consider threatening at the point.

That doesn't sound too unreasonable to me. Not that I would really approach you. What does she expect when she flips off people in rimmed up Civics?

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Does writing down a 50 year old womans license plate then implicitly threating OP seem rational to you? Who cares what the first thing out of his mouth was. Just makes him seem like more a freak to me based on his subsequent actions.

scotchnrocks 02-11-2007 05:23 PM

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Does writing down a 50 year old womans license plate then implicitly threating OP seem rational to you?

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how dense can you be? the threat was a result of her flipping him off and THEN pretending like nothing happened and ignoring someone who is asking a question in a calm way...i don't agree with the threat part at all you idiot

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Who cares what the first thing out of his mouth was. Just makes him seem like more a freak to me based on his subsequent actions.

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His action was a result of how the situation developed, not that I think it is justified at all. It isn't. But I can see how someone such as the rimmed up civic guy could act like this given the situation.

solids 02-11-2007 05:29 PM

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First things first, tell your mother to grow the [censored] up. What she did was pretty juvenile and dumb.

As for you, I'd just let it go, as his threat seemed pretty idle. He was trying to [censored] with your head and get you all paranoid, and it seemed to have work. Give him props for successfully ninja-ing your brain, and move on.

LeapFrog 02-11-2007 05:29 PM

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Does writing down a 50 year old womans license plate then implicitly threating OP seem rational to you?

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how dense can you be? the threat was a result of her flipping him off and THEN pretending like nothing happened and ignoring someone who is asking a question in a calm way...i don't agree with the threat part at all you idiot


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And just how retarded can you be? Oh wait we have a fairly decent example. It is not standard to follow some 50 year old woman that flipped you off in a parking lot over a parking space. Apparently you think it is, what can I say.

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Who cares what the first thing out of his mouth was. Just makes him seem like more a freak to me based on his subsequent actions.

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His action was a result of how the situation developed, not that I think it is justified at all. It isn't. But I can see how someone such as the rimmed up civic guy could act like this given the situation.


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His action is a result of him being a [censored] pyscho or tremendous [censored] who was trying to put some fear into OP and mom when 99% of the population would just let this go.

oyesmoreofthis 02-11-2007 05:30 PM

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its "flip off," scotch. and everyone needs to stop being so gay. if you flip someone off, you need to be ready to fight to the death. its like how you cant walk up to someone and say, "[censored] you!" and then when they get up in your face you say, "hey buddy chill out. leave me alone. im going to tell OOT on you."


and OP, HES COMIN FOR YA! ONE OF THESE NIGHTS, TAKIN OUT THE GARBAGE, STAB! STAB! STAB!

scotchnrocks 02-11-2007 05:33 PM

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And just how retarded can you be? Oh wait we have a fairly decent example. It is not standard to follow some 50 year old woman that flipped you off in a parking lot over a parking space. Apparently you think it is, what can I say.

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You need to practice your reading comprehension internet toughguy, I never said that.

scotchnrocks 02-11-2007 05:36 PM

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Ok, can someone please tell me why everyone is on my case in this thread for trying to explain what/why this happened like this? Someone who will not call me a douchebag or tard.

Flipping someone off is a personal insult. Don't do it if you can't walk the talk.

LeapFrog 02-11-2007 05:36 PM

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And just how retarded can you be? Oh wait we have a fairly decent example. It is not standard to follow some 50 year old woman that flipped you off in a parking lot over a parking space. Apparently you think it is, what can I say.

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You need to practice your reading comprehension internet toughguy, I never said that.

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Internet tough guy lol -- you start with name calling and don't like the back of ma hand? And MORON, what I'm getting at is your insistence that this guy is perfectly normal when he is following OP and mom after the flip off -- like I said most people would let this go. So what if the first thing he said to them was in his nice soft psycho voice. This guy is not normal.

Reef 02-11-2007 05:43 PM

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take your mom to anger management

scotchnrocks 02-11-2007 05:44 PM

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Internet tough guy lol -- you start with name calling and don't like the back of ma hand? And MORON, what I'm getting at is your insistence that this guy is perfectly normal when he is following OP and mom after the flip off -- like I said most people would let this go. So what if the first thing he said to them was in his nice soft psycho voice. This guy is not normal.

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Calm down and reread. Never did I insist that. I only said it in the case of Sponger because I know about what size he is and I would have no problem approaching him if he flipped me off in a parking lot.

I called you an idiot because you came out of nowhere to get involved with this, and you have ridiculed me with cherry picked phrases from my posts. I hope your day is complete now.

miami32 02-11-2007 05:44 PM

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Okay, maybe I wasn't clear enough. For those of you in the College park or laurel MD area. This was the back end entrance of laurel shopping center. It's a 2 way road with parking spots on either side and then an entrance to the shopping center. This guy clearly past a spot he wanted slammed on his breaks, and almost caused an accident. The put his car in reverse with no sign or anything and backed up. He parked, mom flipped him off and the rest ensued.

PS-I also state that he didn't sound normal, he was clearly annoyed just not yelling or very threatening. That doesn't mean it's normal behavior. When he drove over what exactly am I supposed to say. I'm sorry my mom got pissed by your lack of driving skills and flipped you off? That would have gone over well. My mom was angry, while the act was juvinile, coming over and confronting us wasn't any better either.

LeatherFace 02-11-2007 05:45 PM

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One time I was driving and someone headed the opposite direction decided to pass a car when there was no way of making it in time. I did not slow down at all and we were headed straight at eachother. The car he was passing saw this and slammed on his brakes, and the guy that was passing flipped me off. I turned around and followed him he was going about 90 and he drove to his home and I got out and beat the [censored] out of him until he was bleeding like crazy and then left. Never got in trouble from this incident, and would do it again..

captZEEbo 02-11-2007 05:47 PM

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I don't understand why some people are letting this go. This guy was NOT trying to mess with your head. He was taking down your license plate WHILE you guys weren't around. He was trying to secretly get the license plate, not trying to scare you. I'm pretty sure something will happen.


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