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8+Tabling Americans And 4 Tabling Europeans
Dont have hard evidence of this, but anecdotally from talking to players and observing who the super multitablers are, seems the grimstarrs almost entirely americans.
Why is this? Evidence of americans being more materialistic, Europeans prefer love of game and enjoyment, or is that too stereotypical? |
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I think Americans believe the more they work the further ahead they get and Europeans believe the less they work the more free time they have.
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I think Americans believe the more they work the further ahead they get and Europeans believe the less they work the more free time they have. [/ QUOTE ] That honestly sums it up.... I couldn't think of a more accurate quote if I spent a couple of hours on it. |
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Another way of putting it might be that Europeans like to try and improve until they truly excel at something, whereas Americans just want to satiate their greed and need for immediate gratification!
But I don't agree with OP anyway, a lot of Euro sites are dominated by multitabling TAGs (For the record Im neither European nor American) |
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Another way of putting it might be that Europeans like to try and improve until they truly excel at something [/ QUOTE ] I wish them luck with that [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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I love how when Americans aren't good at something, or people aren't millionaires living crazy lives, take vacations, don't work hard and just enjoy life, they are failures in the eyes of the international community and evidence as to why American society is going down the tubes, and when they are rich hard working (or not) and flaunt their money etc etc, they are considered hethans who only care about material goods, spend their time trying to screw other people over and are generally unfit for European moral standards. Both identities ironically are said to be positively unhappy, a tragic perspective from a generally intelligent and caring, but without a doubt overly proud European conciousness. BTW this took me about 2 minutes to write before you want to go criticizing my lifestyle.
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I love how when Americans aren't good at something, or people aren't millionaires living crazy lives, take vacations, don't work hard and just enjoy life, they are failures in the eyes of the international community and evidence as to why American society is going down the tubes, and when they are rich hard working (or not) and flaunt their money etc etc, they are considered hethans who only care about material goods, spend their time trying to screw other people over and are generally unfit for European moral standards. [/ QUOTE ] That is a really long sentence. |
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adi,
That is just sick. Here I am feeling great because I finally have 20 vaction and 10 holliday days at my job and I am barely above the legal minimum in some countries. |
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Dont have hard evidence of this, but anecdotally from talking to players and observing who the super multitablers are, seems the grimstarrs almost entirely americans. Why is this? Evidence of americans being more materialistic, Europeans prefer love of game and enjoyment, or is that too stereotypical? [/ QUOTE ] Like someone else mentioned, at the euro sites you will find some of multitabling TAGs but in general I agree with you. Not sure why this is, but I belive this is part of our success. I have seen Patrik Antonius, to take one example, play since day one of my poker life. He never played 6-12 tables even at the "lower" stakes. This also goes for other top scandinavians. I truly admire the 8 tablers, I could never do it, but I also think it hurts your game to some extent since you are not paying 100% attention to everything |
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Lucky,
The exact reason is unknown to me but I think you're on the right track in thinking that it's cultural. Some of the responses have been good so far. |
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Dont have hard evidence of this, but anecdotally from talking to players and observing who the super multitablers are, seems the grimstarrs almost entirely americans. Why is this? Evidence of americans being more materialistic, Europeans prefer love of game and enjoyment, or is that too stereotypical? [/ QUOTE ] My first reaction to this (without thinking about it too hard) is the following: if it had been the other way around, you might be saying something like "does this just show that Americans are the McDonalds-eating, Springer-watching, automatic-transmission-driving, lottery-ticket-buying, fat, lazy bastards who aren't willing to do something difficult for money, and instead go for the easiest path of least resistance?" -bigbootch |
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Doesnt the software have a lot to do with it?
PS / PP easier to mutitable since they are slowish and have resize windows. european sites ive seen tend to not have resizing or are silly fast. |
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[ QUOTE ] I love how when Americans aren't good at something, or people aren't millionaires living crazy lives, take vacations, don't work hard and just enjoy life, they are failures in the eyes of the international community and evidence as to why American society is going down the tubes, and when they are rich hard working (or not) and flaunt their money etc etc, they are considered hethans who only care about material goods, spend their time trying to screw other people over and are generally unfit for European moral standards. [/ QUOTE ] That is a really long sentence. [/ QUOTE ] ROFL!!! |
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Americans have bigger monitors.
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Another way of putting it might be that Europeans like to try and improve until they truly excel at something, whereas Americans just want to satiate their greed and need for immediate gratification! [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, seriously. And what has that "greed" and "need for immediate gratification" gotten us anyway? Oh, right... |
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I think Americans believe the more they work the further ahead they get and Europeans believe the less they work the more free time they have. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Another way of putting it might be that Europeans like to try and improve until they truly excel at something, whereas Americans just want to satiate their greed and need for immediate gratification! [/ QUOTE ] this is awesome. an absolutely clear display of liberal vs conservative thinking. bill oreilly would love this as much as i do. |
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[ QUOTE ] I think Americans believe the more they work the further ahead they get and Europeans believe the less they work the more free time they have. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Another way of putting it might be that Europeans like to try and improve until they truly excel at something, whereas Americans just want to satiate their greed and need for immediate gratification! [/ QUOTE ] this is awesome. an absolutely clear display of liberal vs conservative thinking. bill oreilly would love this as much as i do. [/ QUOTE ] I'm a liberal and I agree with the first one, so I don't understand how this highlights a difference between conservative and liberal thinking. How many American liberals do you think would agree with the second statement? |
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Interesting subject. Dont really have anything to add...
I can only confirm OP's observation as Im a euro "pro" and I never play more than 4 tables.. |
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[ QUOTE ] http://www.epinet.org/images/snapfigb.gif [/ QUOTE ] time to move [/ QUOTE ] These holiday figures are lower than the actual days received in the many of jobs throughout Europe.In the UK for example most full time workers get 20/25 days plus 8 public holidays & you will find many long service employees getting up to 30 days + 8 public yearly(those days exclude Sat/Sun so many workers get up to 7 weeks holiday yearly). |
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I'm a liberal and I agree with the first one, so I don't understand how this highlights a difference between conservative and liberal thinking. How many American liberals do you think would agree with the second statement? [/ QUOTE ] this means 1. youre not really as liberal as you think 2. you havent picked up on the underlying meaning of the first statement 3. you are just in the extreme minority any or a combition of those things. and id guess 90% of american liberals would agree with the second statement.this is funny stuff |
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I'm really liberal and I agree more with the first one.
I'm also kind of annoyed by conseratives who make blanket statements about how ALL liberals think regarding one thing or another. |
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[ QUOTE ] I'm a liberal and I agree with the first one, so I don't understand how this highlights a difference between conservative and liberal thinking. How many American liberals do you think would agree with the second statement? [/ QUOTE ] this means 1. youre not really as liberal as you think 2. you havent picked up on the underlying meaning of the first statement 3. you are just in the extreme minority any or a combition of those things. and id guess 90% of american liberals would agree with the second statement.this is funny stuff [/ QUOTE ] No, dude. You're so off on this. Are you a teenager? Because that's the only thing that might explain this sort of black and white thinking. There's nothing "conservative" about saying that American culture is geared more toward working as hard as possible as long as possible (that's not a good thing), while European culture has more to do with enjoying the time that they're not working (a good thing). You're misinterpreting the statement. By the way - liberal doesn't mean "hate everything about the United States." |
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There's a big difference between socially liberal and "big government"/socialism liberal.
There are lots of people who are socially liberal but not economically here in the US. |
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There's a big difference between socially liberal and "big government"/socialism liberal. There are lots of people who are socially liberal but not economically here in the US. [/ QUOTE ] They are called libertarians. And we're really sick of both parties. |
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[ QUOTE ] There's a big difference between socially liberal and "big government"/socialism liberal. There are lots of people who are socially liberal but not economically here in the US. [/ QUOTE ] They are called libertarians. And we're really sick of both parties. [/ QUOTE ] And you're mostly completely out of your [censored] minds. Good representation there. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] There's a big difference between socially liberal and "big government"/socialism liberal. There are lots of people who are socially liberal but not economically here in the US. [/ QUOTE ] They are called libertarians. And we're really sick of both parties. [/ QUOTE ] And you're mostly completely out of your [censored] minds. Good representation there. [/ QUOTE ] Hahhaa. I can't argue with that. At my core I like social liberalism and fiscal conservatism (well, what it's SUPPOSED to be). But in recent years both parties are the big government party. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm a liberal and I agree with the first one, so I don't understand how this highlights a difference between conservative and liberal thinking. How many American liberals do you think would agree with the second statement? [/ QUOTE ] this means 1. youre not really as liberal as you think 2. you havent picked up on the underlying meaning of the first statement 3. you are just in the extreme minority any or a combition of those things. and id guess 90% of american liberals would agree with the second statement.this is funny stuff [/ QUOTE ] No, dude. You're so off on this. Are you a teenager? Because that's the only thing that might explain this sort of black and white thinking. [/ QUOTE ] Read his title again. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] http://www.epinet.org/images/snapfigb.gif [/ QUOTE ] time to move [/ QUOTE ] These holiday figures are lower than the actual days received in the many of jobs throughout Europe.In the UK for example most full time workers get 20/25 days plus 8 public holidays & you will find many long service employees getting up to 30 days + 8 public yearly(those days exclude Sat/Sun so many workers get up to 7 weeks holiday yearly). [/ QUOTE ] I knew there was a reason Europeans were so poor. France is like a third world nation now. But at least they have lots of time to sit around and think about how broke they are! |
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http://www.epinet.org/images/snapfigb.gif [/ QUOTE ] 20 and 25 are multiples of five, 21 is a little odd but at least a multiple of seven, but why do Spain and Portugal give 22 days? 22?! |
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[ QUOTE ] http://www.epinet.org/images/snapfigb.gif [/ QUOTE ] 20 and 25 are multiples of five, 21 is a little odd but at least a multiple of seven, but why do Spain and Portugal give 22 days? 22?! [/ QUOTE ]3 weeks + 1 for running of the bulls |
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[ QUOTE ] I love how when Americans aren't good at something, or people aren't millionaires living crazy lives, take vacations, don't work hard and just enjoy life, they are failures in the eyes of the international community and evidence as to why American society is going down the tubes, and when they are rich hard working (or not) and flaunt their money etc etc, they are considered hethans who only care about material goods, spend their time trying to screw other people over and are generally unfit for European moral standards. [/ QUOTE ] That is a really long sentence. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Read his title again. [/ QUOTE ] wow... i think i just got nerd-zinged. and i got that title because i said that soccer was for fairies, so i definitely display it with pride |
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I knew there was a reason Europeans were so poor. France is like a third world nation now. But at least they have lots of time to sit around and think about how broke they are! [/ QUOTE ] ROFL! I had a friend who lives in Manhattan visiting last week. This is someone who earns in excess of $100,000 a year, and all I heard from her all week was complaints about how she couldn't afford the cost of English pizza because of the pitiful value of the dollar. |
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Im american, I 4 table. I used to 8table-12table but realized I was a breakeven mass tilty player while doing that.
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English pizza? Isn't that why the Pilgrims left?
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[ QUOTE ] I knew there was a reason Europeans were so poor. France is like a third world nation now. But at least they have lots of time to sit around and think about how broke they are! [/ QUOTE ] ROFL! I had a friend who lives in Manhattan visiting last week. This is someone who earns in excess of $100,000 a year, and all I heard from her all week was complaints about how she couldn't afford the cost of English pizza because of the pitiful value of the dollar. [/ QUOTE ] 100k/year in manhattan is a pittance. Your friend just wanted to bitch about the cost of the pizza. |
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English pizza? Isn't that why the Pilgrims left? [/ QUOTE ] It's edible from here: http://www.pizzaexpress.co.uk/ |
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