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eviljeff 02-06-2007 06:46 PM

stuff you never got about Rounders
 
why is the inmate seemingly excited about leading the J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the final trick when the Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is still out? why is he surprised/disappointed when he gets the bitch?

why did Worm purposely lose money to the guards? he says it's so they "keep doing me favors and [censored]" but this doesn't make sense to me. I don't do favors for the fish I take money from. do you?

whose car do they take to Binghamton? if it's Mike's then why does he need to borrow Jo's jeep to pick up Worm at the beginning? if it's Worm's then why does he just let Mike take it?

ph0yce 02-06-2007 07:14 PM

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why did Worm purposely lose money to the guards? he says it's so they "keep doing me favors and [censored]" but this doesn't make sense to me. I don't do favors for the fish I take money from. do you?

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This makes perfect sense. You're saying you would play with the guards and take all their money unrelentingly? Remember that shower scene in American History X and how the guard quietly slips out and the 4 skinheads enter? Or maybe in the Shawshank Redemption when Andy stops getting the buttsecks because the guards love him for doing their taxes? The guards were always pulling [censored] on HBO's Oz.

OMG DON'T YOU KNOW ANYTHING?11

coolio4433 02-06-2007 07:28 PM

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whose car do they take to Binghamton? if it's Mike's then why does he need to borrow Jo's jeep to pick up Worm at the beginning? if it's Worm's then why does he just let Mike take it?

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It's a rental, see the tag on the keychain?

Zaid_Ahmed 02-06-2007 07:38 PM

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whose car do they take to Binghamton? if it's Mike's then why does he need to borrow Jo's jeep to pick up Worm at the beginning? if it's Worm's then why does he just let Mike take it?

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It's a rental, see the tag on the keychain?

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Glad we cleared that one up

igetjokes 02-06-2007 07:51 PM

Re: stuff you never got about Rounders
 
I never got why there wasn't a hardcore sex scene. His gf was hot enough

mlagoo 02-06-2007 07:52 PM

Re: stuff you never got about Rounders
 
johnny chan 4betting and folding to a 5bet preflop

eviljeff 02-06-2007 07:52 PM

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johnny chan 4betting and folding to a 5bet preflop

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look at the table.

eviljeff 02-06-2007 07:54 PM

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I never got why there wasn't a hardcore sex scene. His gf was hot enough

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you can see Gretchen Mol's breasts in The Thirteenth Floor

DWarrior 02-06-2007 07:54 PM

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why is the inmate seemingly excited about leading the J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the final trick when the Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is still out? why is he surprised/disappointed when he gets the bitch?

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Same reason why he got caught.

eviljeff 02-06-2007 07:58 PM

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I never got why there wasn't a hardcore sex scene. Petra was hot enough

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oh, and FYP

eviljeff 02-06-2007 08:01 PM

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=Double+Duke

eviljeff 02-06-2007 08:07 PM

Re: stuff you never got about Rounders
 
also, apparently "sitting the apple" means playing in the biggest game going

AK47Suited 02-06-2007 08:10 PM

Re: stuff you never got about Rounders
 
I believe its "setting the apple" is it not ?

Kind of a reference to ppl who used to set a apple on top of there head for it to be shot with a arrow etc.

Taking a shot, yatta yatta

eviljeff 02-06-2007 08:12 PM

Re: stuff you never got about Rounders
 
hmmm, interesting interpretation. however, the online script says "sitting". also, google searches for "sitting the apple" return Rounders hits, but "setting the apple" do not.

eviljeff 02-06-2007 08:14 PM

Re: stuff you never got about Rounders
 
another one: when they're eating noodles why does Mike say "I told you man you didn't have to give it all back to 'em. Take a little money for your time." he's a [censored] liar, he gave no indication that Worm should keep any of the money.

FatalError 02-06-2007 08:26 PM

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they are playing 25-50 NL

Mike open raises to 1k with KK?
Teddy raises to 5k?
Mike pushes and teddy Folds???

DWarrior 02-06-2007 08:50 PM

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they are playing 25-50 NL

Mike open raises to 1k with KK?
Teddy raises to 5k?
Mike pushes and teddy Folds???

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Mike thinking on level 9
Teddy thinking on level 8

Our House 02-06-2007 08:51 PM

Re: stuff you never got about Rounders
 
The Judges Game:

The judges are all fish that Mike could easily beat. Mike calls their hands out at the end and bets $20 for Abe. They all fold. One guy even folds two pair.

WHAT FISH FOLDS TWO PAIR EVER???

You could show a fish a straight flush and he'd still call with two pair.

prodonkey 02-06-2007 08:55 PM

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I always thought a double duke was Howard and Annie at the same time

The bets at the beginning were ridiculous too.. he opens for what 500? then he bets 2k.. so 2x pot.. then there is 5k in pot then teddy bets 15k on river lol

metsmaniac823 02-06-2007 08:55 PM

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why is the inmate seemingly excited about leading the J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the final trick when the Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is still out? why is he surprised/disappointed when he gets the bitch?

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In some hearts games, the jack of diamonds is worth -10 to your score. The queen of spades is worth +13. He's probably pissed because he forgot it hadn't been played yet. Also he had dropped the soap that morning, his wife just cheated on him, and the rap album he had just released from prison only went gold, not platinum. All of that information is in the director's commentary.

kkcountry 02-06-2007 08:58 PM

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johnny chan 4betting and folding to a 5bet preflop

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chan = pokerbob

stjohnychan 02-06-2007 09:09 PM

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worm is playing hearts where the qs is the worth a shitton.

the thing I never got is this conversation:

"She's really got him by the balls"
"Is that so bad?"
"Depends on the grip"

What does that mean? In my experience, if she's got him by the balls, in any sort of grip, its bad touch. If they are just being tickled or licked or something, well then that's typically more of the good touch. But any 'gripping' is per se bad. Discuss.

Jiggymike 02-06-2007 09:22 PM

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The Judges Game:

The judges are all fish that Mike could easily beat. Mike calls their hands out at the end and bets $20 for Abe. They all fold. One guy even folds two pair.

WHAT FISH FOLDS TWO PAIR EVER???

You could show a fish a straight flush and he'd still call with two pair.

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LOL, QFT.

I think the only unexplained things from that movie are:
1) WTF was Teddy KGB playing on the end/what did he think Mike had?

2) Why didn't Mike McD bang Famke Jansen's character [repeatedly]?

prodonkey 02-06-2007 09:27 PM

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He is gay obv

sdunsmb 02-06-2007 09:54 PM

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The bit that I thought was strange was where Mike sits in the big game with jonny chan at atlantic city with 6k, just 10 BBs since it was 300/600. This makes no sense because:

- mike claims to sit tight for hours and not play a hand(hmm yeh with 10bbs)

-he has that ridiculous interchang pre flop with jonny chan. Mike opens, chan 3-bets, which woud have basically put mike all in, yet mike then somehow 4-bets, and chan folds....wtf.

yes, im being a nit

LotsOfOuts69 02-06-2007 09:54 PM

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If Mike was waiting out the golf pro until he bluffed at the wrong pot, why did he try to bluff raise him on the river in the first place?

If Mike was such a regular, why was teddy acting like he wouldn't give him any chips because he forgot his $500 at home? Didn't seem like Teddy was all that worried about giving out loans and killing them later if they dont pay.

Why did Mike and Jo live in a $782131728 apartment in NYC. Who the hell was paying for that? Had to be Jo was rich. It sure wasn't Mike's. Then Jo moves out of her own place?

So then Jo moves out, but leaves the keys to her Jeep so Mike and Worm can bust down to AC? After he had to ask to borrow it to pick Worm up?

TyFuji 02-06-2007 10:01 PM

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I never got the apartment bit, there's no way two law students could afford that apartment. the [censored] downpayment on that apartment would be > his 30k roll

eviljeff 02-06-2007 10:01 PM

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-he has that ridiculous interchang pre flop with jonny chan. Mike opens, chan 3-bets, which woud have basically put mike all in, yet mike then somehow 4-bets, and chan folds....wtf.


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god damnit this does not happen preflop, it happens on the flop. also bet amounts are only $300 so he has plenty.

sdunsmb 02-06-2007 10:06 PM

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-he has that ridiculous interchang pre flop with jonny chan. Mike opens, chan 3-bets, which woud have basically put mike all in, yet mike then somehow 4-bets, and chan folds....wtf.


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god damnit this does not happen preflop, it happens on the flop. also bet amounts are only $300 so he has plenty.

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ok, well i guess i got the wrong end of the stick there.

so they were playing limit?

prodonkey 02-06-2007 11:06 PM

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how did he have 10k after cashing the check? Wouldn't they have taken a big fee

UATrewqaz 02-06-2007 11:12 PM

Re: stuff you never got about Rounders
 
At the end Mike has 10K and owes 15K to KGB, thus he plays him to win what he needs.

Why did KGB even agree to this match?

If he says no then in a few hours he's gonna have Mike's 10K anyway when he and Grammar take it from him to collect on the debt, then probably kill him.

Thus if he doesn't play Mike he gets the 10g no matter what. So "winning" the money from him is pointless.

Mike was freerolling.

IlliniLou 02-06-2007 11:17 PM

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I think the only unexplained things from that movie are:
1) WTF was Teddy KGB playing on the end/what did he think Mike had?

2) Why didn't Mike McD bang Famke Jansen's character [repeatedly]?

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1. he had pocket 10's, if you slow down the video when he throws his cards on the table, they pop back up and as they flip in the air you can see what they are.
2. she has the herpes obviously

DWarrior 02-06-2007 11:37 PM

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-he has that ridiculous interchang pre flop with jonny chan. Mike opens, chan 3-bets, which woud have basically put mike all in, yet mike then somehow 4-bets, and chan folds....wtf.


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god damnit this does not happen preflop, it happens on the flop. also bet amounts are only $300 so he has plenty.

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ok, well i guess i got the wrong end of the stick there.

so they were playing limit?

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Yeah, it was a limit game. Which still leaves the question of how chan folds to the 5th bet, that pot was so huge.

PS, nobody would let a guy sit in for 6k in 300/600nl

Nologo 02-06-2007 11:43 PM

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Why is Grammar pissed off at the end? He gets his money anyway. Is he pissed off he doesn't get to kill anyone?

"GRAMMAR WANT TO CRUSSHHH!"

Nologo 02-06-2007 11:46 PM

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how did he have 10k after cashing the check? Wouldn't they have taken a big fee

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also, who the [censored] cashes a personal check for 10K in the middle of the night?

DemonDeac 02-06-2007 11:46 PM

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-he has that ridiculous interchang pre flop with jonny chan. Mike opens, chan 3-bets, which woud have basically put mike all in, yet mike then somehow 4-bets, and chan folds....wtf.


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god damnit this does not happen preflop, it happens on the flop. also bet amounts are only $300 so he has plenty.

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ok, well i guess i got the wrong end of the stick there.

so they were playing limit?

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Yeah, it was a limit game. Which still leaves the question of how chan folds to the 5th bet, that pot was so huge.

PS, nobody would let a guy sit in for 6k in 300/600nl

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p.p.s. it wasn't NL

DeMaci 02-07-2007 12:00 AM

Re: stuff you never got about Rounders
 
Lots of places cash checks in the middle of the night, live somewhere besides Iowa.

TeddyKGB played him because if he took the $10k, Mike would be his bitch until paid back, and have an extra $10k.

They obv didn't own the apartment, His $30k roll would be plenty for paying monthly dues on it, considering he won every month.

Mike_Hunt 02-07-2007 12:15 AM

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you can see Gretchen Mol's breasts in The Thirteenth Floor

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Actually, you can see Mol completely naked in "The Notorious Bettie Page."

Linky = http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0404802/

prodonkey 02-07-2007 02:37 AM

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Girl don't have no boobs yo

mikeymer 02-07-2007 02:42 AM

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Why is Grammar pissed off at the end? He gets his money anyway. Is he pissed off he doesn't get to kill anyone?

"GRAMMAR WANT TO CRUSSHHH!"

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I've always wondered this.


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