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Whitewash 02-06-2007 03:31 PM

Yay, the fun HSP episodes are starting next week
 
By the looks of the preview, here will be the setup of the table for the next few episodes...

Seat 1: Brian Townsend
Seat 2: Jamie Gold (then Sam Farha?)
Seat 3: Todd Brunson
Seat 4: Paul Wasicka
Seat 5: Barry Greenstein
Seat 6: Eli Elezera
Seat 7: Jen Harman
Seat 8: Erick Lindgren


If my Sam Farha guess is correct, then it will be interesting to see how aba handles having him to his left. Will also be interested to see if aba 3 bets with any marginal hands PF (which is common place online, but rare and frowned upon live).

Pretty interesting mix of players... two gamb00lers, with the rest of the table being solid, selectively aggressive players.

Preview of the episode can be found at the end of this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tr8C2RpmI8

DayTripping 02-06-2007 04:13 PM

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Seat 3: Todd Brunson

Yawn.

Seat 4: Paul Wasicka

Looks like he's going to just take up space like Bob Stupak. The difference is Stupak was entertaining.

Seat 5: Barry Greenstein

He's pretty boring.

Seat 6: Eli Elezera

God no.

Seat 7: Jen Harman

Pretty boring.

Seat 8: Erick Lindgren

Yawn

Theo_Brixton 02-06-2007 04:42 PM

Re: Yay, the fun HSP episodes are starting next week
 
Harman wasn't boring when she was drunk.
I agree about Brunson, Wasicka, and Elezra being no fun.
Lindgren and Barry are fine because they play excellently.

Whitewash 02-06-2007 04:47 PM

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Todd Brunson is not a great player?

I find Eli entertaining when he plays atrociously loose poker and then makes jabs at good players like Antonio and Barry.

"About time Antonio gets what he deserves!"
"Barry is playing like tournament!"

DayTripping 02-06-2007 04:50 PM

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Lindgren and Barry are fine because they play excellently.

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That's the thing - they are too good. It's more fun to see people who have some flaws in their game (Gold, Matusow, etc).

selurah 02-06-2007 05:18 PM

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Lindgren and Barry are fine because they play excellently.

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That's the thing - they are too good. It's more fun to see people who have some flaws in their game (Gold, Matusow, etc).

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I would rather see good poker. If you want to see terrible players with lots of leaks try Celebrity Poker [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Cardsofwood 02-06-2007 05:20 PM

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I would rather see good poker. If you want to see terrible players with lots of leaks try World Series of Poker broadcasts [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

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Hairlip Steve 02-06-2007 05:56 PM

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When is Ivey going to be on?

cbloom 02-06-2007 06:15 PM

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Looks like a pretty good table. Harman & Wasicka are the only dead weight in terms of entertainment value. Everyone else is at least pretty aggressive so there should be some confrontations. There's not really anyone to heat up the action like Dan N or Mike M though, so that sucks.

Phntm 02-06-2007 06:37 PM

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Have we seen the last of Daniel? Does he actually leave winner??

Whitewash 02-06-2007 11:49 PM

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When is Ivey going to be on?

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Prob not until around the 12th episode or so.

Negreanu will be back on since he played on both days of taping.

Tom Bayes 02-07-2007 12:11 AM

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I thought the episodes with Jamie Gold getting PWNED were fun to watch [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

JJBuffone 02-07-2007 12:51 AM

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I wouldn't necessarily say "fun" as much as I would say "better poker" episodes. Watching Jamie Gold spew chips was pretty fun and entertaining. But yeah, I'm definitely excited to see the new and better players come in.

Quake1028 02-07-2007 02:19 AM

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So, will these be the first episodes of HSP (excluding the Kaplan thing) that DN misses?

CaseS87 02-07-2007 02:38 AM

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Lindgren and Barry are fine because they play excellently.

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That's the thing - they are too good. It's more fun to see people who have some flaws in their game (Gold, Matusow, etc).

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I disagree. The reason I watch HSP is to watch good players. Every other poker show on TV has plenty of bad players to watch.

Whitewash 02-07-2007 02:55 AM

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The monster table (Ivey, Antonius, Brad Booth, sbrugby, Dags, Antonio) at the end of the season will have a lot of guys who are dry toast, yet it is likely to be the most fascinating set of poker episodes to be on TV yet. Good poker TV does not rely on colorful characters.

Jourdain 02-07-2007 04:36 AM

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Yeah, the last episodes looks promising as you can see some shots in the intro every week.

Brad Booth shoves an enormous tower of cash bricks, David Williams is giggling like a school girl and Benyamine looks like Booth just tipped the waitress. Fun stuff.

Assani Fisher 02-07-2007 05:52 AM

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Will also be interested to see if aba 3 bets with any marginal hands PF (which is common place online, but rare and frowned upon live).

[/ QUOTE ]can you explain what you mean by this a bit?

Ghazban 02-07-2007 10:56 AM

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Will also be interested to see if aba 3 bets with any marginal hands PF (which is common place online, but rare and frowned upon live).

[/ QUOTE ]can you explain what you mean by this a bit?

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I'm pretty sure he means that he has no idea what he's talking about.

DougieG 02-07-2007 11:30 AM

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Haha I didn't know what OP meant by that either.

Anyway, I don't really think one should watch HSP simply for the poker being played as so many of the variables are missing. We don't see every hand and so we probably won't know if Aba is 3 betting light if the original raiser folds (as unlikely as that is on HSP). Certainly it is far more entertaining from a poker perspective than the crappy donkaments on tv, but personally I find that the entertainment value of the people exceeds that of the play.

Mr.JR 02-07-2007 03:02 PM

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Have we seen the last of Daniel? Does he actually leave winner??

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I think Daniel has played every episode of HSP so far, and I don't expect that to change.

dfbuzzbeater 02-07-2007 03:15 PM

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Have we seen the last of Daniel? Does he actually leave winner??

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I think Daniel has played every episode of HSP so far, and I don't expect that to change.

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unless i'm the sucker who will be leveled........negreanu will not be on next week.

Whitewash 02-07-2007 05:22 PM

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I'm pretty sure he means that he has no idea what he's talking about.

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O RLY?

How many times do you see people 3 bet PF on High Stakes Poker in comparison to online 6 max games (for example, MP raise and BTN 3 bet, or BTN raise and SB 3 bet)?

Now, how much cold calling of PF raises do you see on HSP?

cbloom 02-07-2007 09:43 PM

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O RLY?

How many times do you see people 3 bet PF on High Stakes Poker in comparison to online 6 max games (for example, MP raise and BTN 3 bet, or BTN raise and SB 3 bet)?

Now, how much cold calling of PF raises do you see on HSP?

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The quality of play in the big games online is about 100X better than live. Online players understand aggression, shania, randomization, etc. The HSP "pros" like to limp and "see flops" and such nonsense.

Sense1ess 02-07-2007 10:20 PM

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O RLY?

How many times do you see people 3 bet PF on High Stakes Poker in comparison to online 6 max games (for example, MP raise and BTN 3 bet, or BTN raise and SB 3 bet)?

Now, how much cold calling of PF raises do you see on HSP?

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The quality of play in the big games online is about 100X better than live. Online players understand aggression, shania, randomization, etc. The HSP "pros" like to limp and "see flops" and such nonsense.

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lol

Eleusis 02-08-2007 04:21 AM

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By the looks of the preview, here will be the setup of the table for the next few episodes...

Seat 1: Brian Townsend
Seat 2: Jamie Gold (then Sam Farha?)
Seat 3: Todd Brunson
Seat 4: Paul Wasicka
Seat 5: Barry Greenstein
Seat 6: Eli Elezera
Seat 7: Jen Harman
Seat 8: Erick Lindgren


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sucks for us

spoiler didn't work, but [censored] it

Eleusis 02-08-2007 04:25 AM

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O RLY?

How many times do you see people 3 bet PF on High Stakes Poker in comparison to online 6 max games (for example, MP raise and BTN 3 bet, or BTN raise and SB 3 bet)?

Now, how much cold calling of PF raises do you see on HSP?

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The quality of play in the big games online is about 100X better than live. Online players understand aggression, shania, randomization, etc. The HSP "pros" like to limp and "see flops" and such nonsense.

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Yeah, "shania" is the key to winning.

johnnyrocket 02-08-2007 03:19 PM

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boring table, i wanna see ivey come in and run everyone off the table.

jackdaniels 02-08-2007 04:09 PM

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O RLY?

How many times do you see people 3 bet PF on High Stakes Poker in comparison to online 6 max games (for example, MP raise and BTN 3 bet, or BTN raise and SB 3 bet)?

Now, how much cold calling of PF raises do you see on HSP?

[/ QUOTE ]

The quality of play in the big games online is about 100X better than live. Online players understand aggression, shania, randomization, etc. The HSP "pros" like to limp and "see flops" and such nonsense.

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Yeah, "shania" is the key to winning.

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The Shania post , for those who haven't read it yet.

zyrrth 02-08-2007 04:12 PM

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I can't wait to see Yukon Brad and his 300k move.

Rottersod 02-09-2007 07:37 PM

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Looks like a pretty good table. Harman & Wasicka are the only dead weight in terms of entertainment value. Everyone else is at least pretty aggressive so there should be some confrontations. There's not really anyone to heat up the action like Dan N or Mike M though, so that sucks.

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I like Harmon and I think she has brought a few things to HSP. She's bluffed, made good plays, etc. She laughs and chats with some of the players. Her HSP game is tighter than most there but still good enough to generate action.

Rottersod 02-09-2007 07:43 PM

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I'd like to see HSP go to 2 hours each week. There simply isn't enough time in a 1 hour broadcast to satiate me. If the WPT can do 2 hours per then HSP surely can.


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