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NajdorfDefense 02-04-2007 12:30 PM

Field to win MVP 10-1
 
This seems like good value. Def players have won 8 MVPs. Now, field does not include Urlacher and Sanders, but with Def historically being 4-1 against, I think 10-1 is a good overlay for Freeney, Briggs, June, Vasher, or some random Off or Def guy [Chuck Howley, Dent, etc.]
Vinatieri at 20-1 and Gould at 40-1 or more is not bad either.

skiier04 02-04-2007 12:33 PM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
I would take both the kickers, but hell what do I know.

youtalkfunny 02-04-2007 03:09 PM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
If Vinatieri hasn't won a SB MVP yet, he's not going to. He can't contribute to a SB win any more than he already has--unless he comes in to relieve an injured Peyton Manning, and engineers a couple of late TD drives to pull out a victory.

If the Colts win, I can't see anybody but Peyton getting the credit for it. If I liked the Colts to win this game, I'd take Peyton for MVP at a plus price, before I laid points or the ML.

A Colts win = a Manning MVP. Unless one of his WR's sets a SB record, I just can't see it going any other way.

Swede 02-04-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
Laddies has Vinatieri at 34-1 and Gould 67-1. Playable?

NajdorfDefense 02-04-2007 04:42 PM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
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If the Colts win, I can't see anybody but Peyton getting the credit for it.

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Don't be silly.

Again, I am saying the field is +EV, not the kickers. At some point, however, you have to like Gould. only 1.5% to win MVP? Maybe...

As for vinatieri, he did miss two in the CAR game. That would seem to be a point against him in that one, but you're probably right on him.

Central Limit 02-05-2007 02:05 PM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
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A Colts win = a Manning MVP. Unless one of his WR's sets a SB record, I just can't see it going any other way.

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After the fact, I know, but I think this would have been a good parlay: Colts Win & Manning MVP.

knicknut 02-05-2007 02:15 PM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
You wouldn't be able to parlay that anywhere, I wouldn't think. Or a book is an idiot, because you can essentially double (more or less depending on team) your payout on every player:

P(Colts win|Peyton MVP) ~ 1

So by betting Peyton MVP you're also betting that the Colts win. It'd be like parlaying Colts -7 and Colts ML.

Central Limit 02-05-2007 03:40 PM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
Yes. I try to find opportunities to make the book look like an idiot. It isn't easy to do and I'm disappointed I missed this one.

beetman 02-06-2007 03:25 AM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
I'm pretty sure there's be value parlaying any quarterback with that player's team to win. Someone I know was able to parlay Roethlisberger MVP/Steelers ML and Hasselback MVP/Seahawks ML last year, I didn't hear if he was able to do the same thing this year.

Thremp 02-06-2007 03:31 AM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
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I'm pretty sure there's be value parlaying any quarterback with that player's team to win. Someone I know was able to parlay Roethlisberger MVP/Steelers ML and Hasselback MVP/Seahawks ML last year, I didn't hear if he was able to do the same thing this year.

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This is printing money.

LLXC 02-06-2007 04:31 AM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
Including this year, 21/41 SuperBowl winners named their QB MVP.

NajdorfDefense 02-06-2007 05:33 PM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
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Including this year, 21/41 SuperBowl winners named their QB MVP.

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So +105 is a good bet?

Thremp 02-06-2007 05:35 PM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
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Including this year, 21/41 SuperBowl winners named their QB MVP.

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So +105 is a good bet?

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No? WTF?

NajdorfDefense 02-06-2007 06:01 PM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
kidding

Thremp 02-06-2007 06:05 PM

Re: Field to win MVP 10-1
 
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kidding

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I was really confused.


I was like thats horrid for 1 team... And who would offer that for both teams.... Bodog.


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