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Kips Bay Kid 02-02-2007 04:53 PM

New Craps game at Luxor (1 die): Die Rich
 
It's easy to play.
The shooter rolls one die.
On the first roll, 6 wins and 1 loses.
Anything else becomes the point, and the shooter rolls three more times.
If the point comes up on the first or last roll, you win 2-to-1.
If it comes up on the 2nd roll, you win even money.
You lose only if the point doesn't come up or a 1 does.
You can also make one-roll bets on any number. They pay 4-to-1, and stay up unless you say otherwise.

Perplexity 02-02-2007 06:09 PM

Re: New Craps game at Luxor (1 die): Die Rich
 
3.7% house edge if my math is right (excluding the one-roll bets)

Mcot 02-03-2007 02:53 AM

Re: New Craps game at Luxor (1 die): Die Rich
 
Im assuming you place your bet before the first roll and the 6 wins and 1 loses means a 6 gets even money and 1 loses?

Or do you place the bet after the 1st roll?

Perplexity 02-08-2007 04:59 PM

Re: New Craps game at Luxor (1 die): Die Rich
 
That was the assumption I made to calculate the 3.7% edge...

Lottery Larry 02-10-2007 02:58 PM

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You can also make one-roll bets on any number. They pay 4-to-1, and stay up unless you say otherwise.

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Is that a 17% house edge?

grando 02-10-2007 06:22 PM

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You can also make one-roll bets on any number. They pay 4-to-1, and stay up unless you say otherwise.

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Is that a 17% house edge?

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lol it's like a carnival game how ridiculous that is

they should at least have it 5-for-1 for the psychological aspect

nineinchal 02-10-2007 07:28 PM

Re: New Craps game at Luxor (1 die): Die Rich/I\'M SO EXCITED!
 
Another negative expected value game.

grando 02-11-2007 02:56 AM

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Homer 02-11-2007 09:30 AM

Re: New Craps game at Luxor (1 die): Die Rich
 
I don't know if dice control is legit or not, but assuming it is, wouldn't it gain you much more ev in this game compared to craps?

Shoe 02-18-2007 04:24 AM

Re: New Craps game at Luxor (1 die): Die Rich
 
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I don't know if dice control is legit or not, but assuming it is, wouldn't it gain you much more ev in this game compared to craps?

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That's what I was thinking. I would think it would be much easier to control 1 dice as opposed to 2.

UprightCreature 02-19-2007 08:30 PM

Re: New Craps game at Luxor (1 die): Die Rich
 
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I don't know if dice control is legit or not, but assuming it is, wouldn't it gain you much more ev in this game compared to craps?

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That's what I was thinking. I would think it would be much easier to control 1 dice as opposed to 2.

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Assuming dice control would result in
P(1) = P(6) and
P(2) = P(3) = P(4) = P(5)

The break even point for this game would be
P(1)/P(2) = 85.8% resulting in a ev of 0 (asuming you only bet when you roll)
in the extreme if P(1)/P(2) = 0 the ev would be 54.7% (this would last all of 5 minutes before you got the boot I imagine)

I wonder how hard it would be to get the ratio of the probability of rolling a "1" to a "2" to less than 80%.

ImBen 02-20-2007 02:17 PM

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That's what I was thinking. I would think it would be much easier to control 1 dice as opposed to 2.

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Sort of the same way it's easier to master 0 languages than it is 1.

CORed 02-24-2007 02:29 AM

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You can also make one-roll bets on any number. They pay 4-to-1, and stay up unless you say otherwise.

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Do they give you a reacharound?

CORed 02-24-2007 02:32 AM

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I don't know if dice control is legit or not, but assuming it is, wouldn't it gain you much more ev in this game compared to craps?

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OTOH, you've got a lot more house edge to overcome. OP didn't mention whether an odds bet is offered, but I'm guessing it isn't.

grouchie 03-01-2007 06:21 PM

Re: New Craps game at Luxor (1 die): Die Rich
 
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I don't know if dice control is legit or not, but assuming it is, wouldn't it gain you much more ev in this game compared to craps?

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No, because in this game the one Die is in a bubble and no one ever touches it.
The dealer puts a cover over top of it, hits a button which "rolls" the die 3 times. Then removes the cover to see what number is on top.

I played this game for like 5 minutes at the urging of the woman... I hated it.
The first Game he rolls a 1 and takes my money.
2nd game he rolls a 3, on his next roll he rolls a 1 and takes my money.
3rd game he gets a point, rolls 3 times and never re-rolls my number, and takes my money.

Humbug


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