Poker gets in peoples blood
 

I probably know a little bit more than most people do about what is happening but even for very seasoned people it is hard to say what is going on.

This is what I know. I have been playing poker seriously for the better part of 15 years. When people say the fish will leave I don't think its the fish that are our problem. Fish will always come and go. Right now they may go more than they come. For myself until about 4 years ago I could never make enough money with poker so I did other things. Who knows, maybe I will do other things soon. So that may be the people we will lose, the people who just need to make more money.

But I will always play poker and I will go to great lengths to play poker. So will bad players because everyone in the whole world thinks they are better than they are.

I know the future is uncertain but I am here to tell you once you are exposed to poker its hard to get it out of your system. So if it means I will have to wire money or fedex a check, that is what I will do. And so will everyone else.

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Glad to see at least one fish is hangin' tough [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

(JK)

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Beanie you speaketh the truth.

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i was thinking about this too. poker in stud/draw form has been around for how long? hundreds of years? for those who say that online poker is a fad, I call it an advent. it was only a matter of time before the internet and gambling joined forces. sure, the huge influx of people will die down within the next several years- that much of it is a fad. but there will always be a plentiful supply of gamblers because as the OP said it's in their blood. as far as jumping thru hoops to deposit- keep in mind that neteller was already a pretty decent hoop to some tards, but they managed.

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by in large the population are pessimists. Couple that with the fact that poker players are likely more than the average and you have overwhelming panic. Poker players also are not conformists, by in large, so I see them going to great lengths to get money online.

If you were making $250k, you may have to settle for $125k or play a little more live. The players playing live nowadays are complete donkey's.

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I think I'd rather sit outside in the sun on a street corner with a coin cup than sit in a casino all day...

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I think I'd rather sit outside in the sun on a street corner with a coin cup than sit in a casino all day...

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Agreed. Basically the same thing.

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by in large the population are pessimists. Couple that with the fact that poker players are likely more than the average and you have overwhelming panic. Poker players also are not conformists, by in large, so I see them going to great lengths to get money online.

If you were making $250k, you may have to settle for $125k or play a little more live. The players playing live nowadays are complete donkey's.

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i think a lot of people are making the mistake that pessimism for the current situation and attitudes such as beanies aren't mutually exclusive.

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Nature maintains a natural balance between predator and prey, and so will the online poker world. When there are fewer gazelles, there are fewer lions surviving in Africa. Yes, there will be a bad transition period of starving lions eating each other, but soon the situation will normalize. A lot of the poker lions who made a living multitabling all day will go get a job somewhere.

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i think a lot of people are making the mistake that pessimism for the current situation and attitudes such as beanies aren't mutually exclusive.

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Can you put that in dumbspeak please?

kthx

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i think a lot of people are making the mistake that pessimism for the current situation and attitudes such as beanies aren't mutually exclusive.

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Can you put that in dumbspeak please?

kthx

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This is the end of internet poker as we know it. That doesn't mean internet poker is just going to go away and not be there for people who still want to play it.

The money supply for online gambling is just going to shrink in rapid amounts over the next few weeks. The rake is going to continue, and the old pace of deposits is not. The sky is falling on internet poker as you know it. Prepare for it. People are getting mad and resenting the sky is falling mentality, but the fact of the matter is that it is.

And beanie I'm sure knows it just as well as everybody else, he's just happy to continue playing in the post-apocolyptic internet poker world which will be coming very soon. but that doesn't change the fact that everything is going to change, and for 99% of american internet poker players, in a very bad way.

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Nature maintains a natural balance between predator and prey, and so will the online poker world. When there are fewer gazelles, there are fewer lions surviving in Africa. Yes, there will be a bad transition period of starving lions eating each other, but soon the situation will normalize. A lot of the poker lions who made a living multitabling all day will go get a job somewhere.

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Darwin was a fish! At least he started out that way.

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I probably know a little bit more than most people do about what is happening but even for very seasoned people it is hard to say what is going on.

This is what I know. I have been playing poker seriously for the better part of 15 years. When people say the fish will leave I don't think its the fish that are our problem. Fish will always come and go. Right now they may go more than they come. For myself until about 4 years ago I could never make enough money with poker so I did other things. Who knows, maybe I will do other things soon. So that may be the people we will lose, the people who just need to make more money.

But I will always play poker and I will go to great lengths to play poker. So will bad players because everyone in the whole world thinks they are better than they are.

I know the future is uncertain but I am here to tell you once you are exposed to poker its hard to get it out of your system. So if it means I will have to wire money or fedex a check, that is what I will do. And so will everyone else.

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You have no idea how much some of these guys wanted to hear that.

You and I probably will stay, me for at least a little longer. I am not too sure about the average rec player though. Too many hoops, not nearly enough reward. Only the most abysmally dim, truly addicted fish will continually beat their financial head against the tough online game.


I have always played poker with the intention of mastering the game and the majority of my opponents. I really haven't minded the grinders (except for the slow play aspect), and mostly enjoyed it when I got involved with LAGS.

But I think I play for a different reason than most fish. I have not had the time for a while now to really do the things I need too, to improve. It has been either play some, or study and watch CR videos. I haven't been able to do both.

AND... I will give it up if and when I get convinced there is no longer any reason to continue. That might be if I decide I really am too slow witted to beat the online game. Or if the games devolve into me against basically bots, both human and otherwise. The games are dangerously near that state now IMHO, and recent developments may accelerate that coming to be.

Personally, I only have money on Stars, and only enough to play SnGs til these things get sorted out.

So guys, take solace in the fact that there are at least 2 non professional players still around.

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Tuff

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As long as the bad european players are still playing, I am sticking it out.....The bad Americans are gonna dry up fast though.

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"The sky is falling on internet poker as you know it. Prepare for it. People are getting mad and resenting the sky is falling mentality, but the fact of the matter is that it is."

Over the past few months I've seen an influx of bad foreign players on Stars, even before UIGEA. Asian markets are beginning to open up. The sky might be falling on you, it's sunny everywhere else.