how long until we start flooding the FSA with complaints?
 

I am usually the more optimistic person regarding the status/future of Internet gambling and i still do think i will get paid by Neteller. However, i am starting to get agitated by how long its taking to get paid.

Personally I think if I am not paid by 5pm Tuesday EST the FSA will get a complaint from me. One week to issue payment (or at least tell us for sure that EFTS aren't going to work) is plenty time enough I think. I hope those of you that have small amount (amounts that don't effect your lives really) will still file complaints along with those of us who are in a real bind.

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Ridiculous, why dont you spend that time and energy complaining to your legislators?

No wondering we're losing the war


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I am usually the more optimistic person regarding the status/future of Internet gambling and i still do think i will get paid by Neteller. However, i am starting to get agitated by how long its taking to get paid.

Personally I think if I am not paid by 5pm Tuesday EST the FSA will get a complaint from me. One week to issue payment (or at least tell us for sure that EFTS aren't going to work) is plenty time enough I think. I hope those of you that have small amount (amounts that don't effect your lives really) will still file complaints along with those of us who are in a real bind.

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great, relevent post. keep up the good work!

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to clarify, i am not suggesting we file 'fake' complaints, just legitimate ones.

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Sublime... I think you need to take a deep breath, and give the sites/Neteller time to sort out what needs to be done... all the major sites came out and said that your money is safe... give them the time to work out how to handle money transfers in an environment where the 3rd party processors they were using are no longer options.

Just my 2 cents... FSA involvement at this stage, isn't going to help...

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sniper.....

imagine if you physically went to a bank and deposited money. And while the cashier was doing your transaction, he says "Ouch, sorry, I hit the wrong key. Your money won't hit your bank account for 2-4 weeks. We're a little to busy to fix this new, but trust me your money is safe." Its hard to relax when there are "uncertainties" with your money.

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Sublime... I think you need to take a deep breath, and give the sites/Neteller time to sort out what needs to be done... all the major sites came out and said that your money is safe... give them the time to work out how to handle money transfers in an environment where the 3rd party processors they were using are no longer options.

Just my 2 cents... FSA involvement at this stage, isn't going to help...

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so then how long do you suggest we wait before complaining?

there has to be a line crossed from acceptable wait to unacceptable wait.

since i have six figures pending, i have an itchy trigger finger.

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If the bank told you the US government was surrounding the vault with landmines, guard towers and Alsation dog patrols you would be happy coming back later.

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Sublime... I think you need to take a deep breath, and give the sites/Neteller time to sort out what needs to be done... all the major sites came out and said that your money is safe... give them the time to work out how to handle money transfers in an environment where the 3rd party processors they were using are no longer options.

Just my 2 cents... FSA involvement at this stage, isn't going to help...

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so then how long do you suggest we wait before complaining?

there has to be a line crossed from acceptable wait to unacceptable wait.

since i have six figures pending, i have an itchy trigger finger.

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Sublime,

If I had six figures pending I wouldn't wait very long either. Its not like reporting to the FSA will "hurt" neteller, it'll just make sure that all your claims are documented in case this does turn into a lengthier battle for your money. I think after a week, at the very least, they should have an explanation for you as for what is going on, and whta the real timeframe is for you to get your money. If you don't even have that, then yes, I think you're perfectly justified.

Regards,
--jman220

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Don't we want other financial alternatives to step up and accept us or at least not leave us.

Flooding the FSA with complaints does not project a friendly attitude. Does it? "Beggars can't be choosy" or bitchy.

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yo sublime im ready to start complaining to anyone who will listen.

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Only Neteller UK is regulated by the FSA - if you are not based in the UK it is unlikely that your account is with that company.

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Don't we want other financial alternatives to step up and accept us or at least not leave us.

Flooding the FSA with complaints does not project a friendly attitude. Does it? "Beggars can't be choosy" or bitchy.

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If I had six figures tied up in limbo in neteller right now, I'd be a lot more concerned with getting that money out, then with the future of online poker payments in America.

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Only Neteller UK is regulated by the FSA - if you are not based in the UK it is unlikely that your account is with that company.

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this doesnt make sense to me on the surface, but i suppose it deserves discussion.

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I'd guess you haven't read the Making A Complaint system?

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I'd guess you haven't read the Making A Complaint system?

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no, i hadent. however i will send my complaint to neteller on Tuesday and take it from there.

thanks mike

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Don't we want other financial alternatives to step up and accept us or at least not leave us.

Flooding the FSA with complaints does not project a friendly attitude. Does it? "Beggars can't be choosy" or bitchy.

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If I had six figures tied up in limbo in neteller right now, I'd be a lot more concerned with getting that money out, then with the future of online poker payments in America.

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Good point

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I'd guess you haven't read the Making A Complaint system?

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are we at the point no that sending a complaint to neteller is even needed? can we call the FSA and be like WTF, you regulate this place, whats the deal?

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[censored] this. There's no way to get money out now.

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What's really messed up is that at crunch time, when we are all scrambling to get our money out, Mike Haven is deleting informative posts as we try to pass information along so that we don't clutter the forums. Thanks.

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Edit/MH: This is absolutely untrue. I do not delete informative posts, even if the "information" has been posted several times before. I lock such posts. If anyone wants to discuss the content, they can use one of the other existing threads on the topic.

You are becoming more and more trollish by the day. Everyone with money temporarily unavailable from Neteller is nervous about the situation. Unsubstantiated panic-posts don't help anyone in any way, and these are often the ones being repeated. Please feel free to complain about my moderation techniques to Mat or Ryan, or in ATF, but kindly keep such posts out of this forum.

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What's really messed up is that at crunch time, when we are all scrambling to get our money out, Mike Haven is deleting informative posts as we try to pass information along so that we don't clutter the forums. Thanks.

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Moderator(s) notified In a moment you will be automatically returned to the forum.

Re: how long until we start flooding the FSA with complaints?
 

1pOkerboy. A lot of us are sweating over way more than your chump change. Quit posting your worthless [censored] all over these boards.

-Brendan

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A lot of us are sweating over way more than your chump change.

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How much?

I'm not saying I'm missing out on much. I know many others are missing much more than me.

Re: how long until we start flooding the FSA with complaints?
 

I see that your safe.

Why do you even need to be in this thread?

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I also see from the history of your posts that you simply jump around and flame people. Absolutely nothing productive. You are worthless to these boards.

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1poker,

I count 5 worthless posts from you in just this thread. One of which is essentially spam you've posted in at least 2 other threads.

Re: how long until we start flooding the FSA with complaints?
 

1p0kerboy is taking a six hour 'timeout from the 2+2 forums'.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u
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Re: how long until we start flooding the FSA with complaints?
 

I got paid by Neteller very quickly by EFT. Got it in 2 days or so? At least as quick as normal. I took out $1K.

I live in Canada, if that matters [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Your country sucks guys, no offense.

Ryan

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I live in Canada, if that matters [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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No, it's coincidence.

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1p0kerboy is taking a six hour 'timeout from the 2+2 forums'.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u
[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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LOLOLOL

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Sublime... I think you need to take a deep breath, and give the sites/Neteller time to sort out what needs to be done... all the major sites came out and said that your money is safe... give them the time to work out how to handle money transfers in an environment where the 3rd party processors they were using are no longer options.

Just my 2 cents... FSA involvement at this stage, isn't going to help...

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so then how long do you suggest we wait before complaining?

there has to be a line crossed from acceptable wait to unacceptable wait.

since i have six figures pending, i have an itchy trigger finger.

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I really can't believe not a single high stakes player has voiced a concern over the state of things. I only play midstakes, but I have almost 6 figures still online, and while I'm a very calm person and not in panic mode I'm certainly concerned.

I'm pretty surprised aba, jman, boosted, actionjeff, schneids, etc all have a large amount of money online. Not one high stakes player has said they are downsizing their online roll until things change for the better.

I have zero options that are reasonable for withdrawing from full tilt and this point, and no way to get my money off neteller. Why is this sitting so well with everyone?