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Truja 01-19-2007 12:34 PM

$4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
So, Im sitting with around 8k chips, 38 players left (18 get paid), average around 7k. Blinds 100/200. CO is loose.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG (t18254)
UTG+1 (t5020)
MP1 (t3037)
MP2 (t3300)
CO (t8173)
Button (t2225)
Hero (t8034)
BB (t15955)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t800</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>

What's my play? I think it's a good time to reraise CO and try to get the 1.1k pot.

Secret Squirrel 01-19-2007 01:05 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
I wouldn't be reraising here unless I had seen him fold in this situation before and still probably wouldn't do it with A2. What will you do if you raise to 3000 and he goes all in or calls?

IMO You still have time to find better spots.

Fiksdal 01-19-2007 01:22 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
You can not re-raise here without a read on CO.

BlueEcho 01-19-2007 01:49 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
It might also help to have a read on the BB who has you almost 2 to 1 on chips.

Fiksdal 01-19-2007 01:53 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
[ QUOTE ]
It might also help to have a read on the BB who has you almost 2 to 1 on chips.

[/ QUOTE ]

Elaborate please.

qwertyui9 01-19-2007 02:07 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
Maybe he means if the bb capable of a re-resteal or not willing to lay down medium-high strength type hands here (like AJ perhaps)? I find both v. unlikely.
Anyway I fold unless the co has been stealing aggressively and has shown he can slow down if he meets any resistance.

BlueEcho 01-19-2007 03:03 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
I would want to know if BB is a blind protector, calling station, or just loose as well.

I guess I might be thinking to far ahead for a 4/180 but my point is this. If your going to raise here because you think CO is loose and might be light then your raise needs to be big enough to run CO and BB out. 2000 is not going to do it so maybe 3000+ is better. If CO or BB come along you really close to being committed now with A,2.

This leads me to a question. Is our stack size alittle awkward for this move? Or if we decide to make this move is it all in or fold?

jtomon 01-19-2007 03:05 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
I'm okay with the fold here.

AggroMob 01-19-2007 03:38 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
Fooolldd... You still have the BB left to act behind you, both the original bettor and the BB have you covered, and you've got a mediocre-at-best hand without a read. You have plenty of time for better cards, or even just waiting for better reads to pick your plays.

Cornell Fiji 01-19-2007 04:04 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
Instafold.

Not a very hard fold either.

DeuceSeven 01-19-2007 04:04 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
Definite fold. If you had something more substanial maybe KJ+, AT+, 88+, then this move gets much easier or if you had position. I like calling or reraising with any 2 cards if villain is instaraising preflop, can lay down 3rd pair postflop (hard to find at these stakes), and you have position.

Truja 01-19-2007 10:18 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
Actually, I went All in, in order to make CO fold. BUT, BB called and CO folded. BB showed KK... OOOOOOOUUUUT [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]. So, which would be a good situation to re-steal?? Should I have the original raiser covered?? Should I be the last to act??

Yo Adrians! 01-19-2007 11:07 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
With stack sizes the way they are, this is just not the time to re-steal without some kind of a read on the CO. I can't stress this enough. There's no reason to do it, you aren't committed to the pot, and there's still someone left to act.

Lots of time. One of the biggest mistake people make in these 180s is not being patient enough. Be patient. You'll find much, much, much better spots than this.

themobfather 01-19-2007 11:15 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
Having a 40bb stack is not a good time to attempt a resteal allin. If you had a real good read on CO that he was weak you could reraise to 2200 or something and fold to further resistance. There is no reason to shove your 40bb stack in to find out if CO is weak and if bb has anything.

TheDreamer 01-19-2007 11:19 PM

Re: $4 MTT 180 people, 38 left.
 
Agree with you again mobfather.

Also, this could sound dumb, but esp. with $4 tournaments, you can easily tell that someone has a considerably good hand when they raise 4x unless they have been doing this all along...they want to get chips IN


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