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I think there are a ton of people right now wondering which neteller alternative to use, what each one is like, which is best, etc. I do not have any experience outside of neteller, however I think it would be very helpful if we could compile a list of the alternatives, and if you've had any experience with any of them such as click2pay, epassporte, etc. to please post a review, your experiences, or anything you know about them.

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would be greatly appreciated.

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ePassPorte I've only seen used at Absolute (but I haven't explored every poker site there is) .. technically it could be used for anything, as it does provide a "Virtual VISA" number, that can be used for any regular credit card purchase, however it is subject to the standard U.S. gambling block on VISA transactions [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I have only used Neteller and the check method. IMO Neteller is far superior to having a check sent home, but if neteller can't be used anymore this is always an option.

pros-you get your check for free without any hassle from the site or banks(as of last week).

cons-usually takes 2-3 weeks to receive the check(unless you pay extra for overnight delivery).

I must add that i have only withdrew money using the check method.

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Im about to make my first deposit. Recommendations?

Edit : Also which poker site should I invest in?

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Might want to wait a week or two and see if any of them are still open to US players first. Why put a lot of effort into setting up new accounts that could be closed immediately?

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okay given the (very) recent news.. this thread becomes more and more important.

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I've used ePassporte in the past, and although their fees are high, I never had any problems with them (used them at least 2-3 years). You can deposit from a credit card to fund your epassporte account, and apparently you can also use an EFT to fund your account as well, however, unlike neteller instacash, if you use an EFT, you must wait for the funds to clear before they appear in your account.
One issue (problem?) with epassporte is if you choose to make a withdrawal, there is no option to receive a check. It's either an EFT withdrawal straight into your bank account, or use an epassporte card at an ATM (just like the neteller card). However, epassporte charges extra for EVERYTHING- you have to pay for the epassporte card, you have to pay to get higher deposit/withdrawal limits, etc.

Their excessive fees are what caused me to stop using them, but like I said, I always felt safe with my money at epassporte, they never once refused a withdrawal or gave me any issues with deposits.

I've used instadebit once before on stars, and didn't have any problems with them either.

On bodog, I've used their instant check method a few times to deposit, without issues.

And back when party was still servicing the US, I remember paying with a credit card to buy phone cards or phone card numbers or something like that, then the money gets transferred from the phone card to your party account. Another painless experience.

Hope this helps..

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Prop bet that Stars, FT, BoDog, UB, AB are still here in 2 weeks? Anyone? Sportsbetting != Online Poker...

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Might want to wait a week or two and see if any of them are still open to US players first. Why put a lot of effort into setting up new accounts that could be closed immediately?

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Prop bet that Stars, FT, BoDog, UB, AB are still here in 2 weeks? Anyone? Sportsbetting != Online Poker...

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I mean ewallets. We're bound to lose a lot of them in the next 48 hours, and maybe into next week.

Direct-to-provider EFTs should still work until the regulations come out. I suggest using them for the time being rather than investing time and trust in a small ewallet.

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Might want to wait a week or two and see if any of them are still open to US players first. Why put a lot of effort into setting up new accounts that could be closed immediately?

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Prop bet that Stars, FT, BoDog, UB, AB are still here in 2 weeks? Anyone? Sportsbetting != Online Poker...

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Odds and amount... I take that they will all be here in 2 weeks.

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Might want to wait a week or two and see if any of them are still open to US players first. Why put a lot of effort into setting up new accounts that could be closed immediately?

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Prop bet that Stars, FT, BoDog, UB, AB are still here in 2 weeks? Anyone? Sportsbetting != Online Poker...

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As long as the executives/employees of those companies don't wish to travel to or over the US, then they will be here for us. As will some form of cash flow each way. The owners of the publicly traded companies have already gotten rich and don't want to risk that. That might include the owners of stars or Bodog. But for any of the very small sites, or potential new site operators who have yet to make their fortunes, they will have a lot of incentive to fade the risk as the offshore sportsbooks have for years.

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Might want to wait a week or two and see if any of them are still open to US players first. Why put a lot of effort into setting up new accounts that could be closed immediately?

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Prop bet that Stars, FT, BoDog, UB, AB are still here in 2 weeks? Anyone? Sportsbetting != Online Poker...

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I mean ewallets. We're bound to lose a lot of them in the next 48 hours, and maybe into next week.

Direct-to-provider EFTs should still work until the regulations come out. I suggest using them for the time being rather than investing time and trust in a small ewallet.

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Yeah sorry, bunch of threads open and I took your post to refer to poker sites for some reason. As for other wallets bailing for US, I'm not so sure. They could already be screwed if evidence has been gathered and they might just wait to see how all this shakes out with NT. After all with NT down its serious gravy time at least until UIGEA. Time will tell I guess.

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Might want to wait a week or two and see if any of them are still open to US players first. Why put a lot of effort into setting up new accounts that could be closed immediately?

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Prop bet that Stars, FT, BoDog, UB, AB are still here in 2 weeks? Anyone? Sportsbetting != Online Poker...

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Odds and amount... I take that they will all be here in 2 weeks.

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Thats my take too (and I am an expert on such matters). I had misinterperted Badugi's post.

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i have not used either recently, but in the past i have used both central coin and nexum financial. i was underwhelmed by both of them.

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I've been using My Citadel Wallet for 2 years and it's great! I even have a credit card swiper for quick and painless deposits!

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i have not used either recently, but in the past i have used both central coin and nexum financial. i was underwhelmed by both of them.

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I used CC way way back in the day when there was a CC only bonus on PS. What did you find underwhelming about CC? Also because God hates me my CC account is suspended because they can't "verify" some of my info or some such noise. Looking forward to the 2 hours or so on the phone this weekend when their support is absolutely swamped [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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How bout Click2pay.. I signed up with them today. Anyone else use them before?

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Does MoneyBookers allow USA clients?

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I've been using My Citadel Wallet for 2 years and it's great! I even have a credit card swiper for quick and painless deposits!

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Hahahaha.....

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As long as the executives/employees of those companies don't wish to travel to or over the US, then they will be here for us. As will some form of cash flow each way.

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True, but it may be something like sending a check in the mail. Once the regs kick in, it shouldn't be too hard for the feds to instruct your bank or credit card company not to do business with specified e-wallet providers. But the good old fashioned check in the mail should always work.

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How bout Click2pay.. I signed up with them today. Anyone else use them before?

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I signed up about a month ago and everything seems OK with them, never withdrew with them yet but next time I withdraw it will be through them.

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What non-personal info do I need to give CC and Click2play in order to sign up and make a deposit? What do you guys recommend, and for which site?

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As long as the executives/employees of those companies don't wish to travel to or over the US, then they will be here for us. As will some form of cash flow each way.

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True, but it may be something like sending a check in the mail. Once the regs kick in, it shouldn't be too hard for the feds to instruct your bank or credit card company not to do business with specified e-wallet providers. But the good old fashioned check in the mail should always work.

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And if that fails I am sure Idi the Nigerian would be more then happy to help people shuttle around some money.

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I've been using My Citadel Wallet for 2 years and it's great! I even have a credit card swiper for quick and painless deposits!


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Any fees for transactions?

Thanx'

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What non-personal info do I need to give CC and Click2play in order to sign up and make a deposit? What do you guys recommend, and for which site?

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Click2pay seemed pretty easy. I believe they have there chit together. Personel info, banking, ssn, stuff like that.
Don't really like the ssn, but what ya gonna do?

There were pretty good about security. After supplying ssn, it then came up with 4 questions to answer about. Adresses I have lived at. One question was pertaining to a place I lived at over 10yrs ago....

They then called me an hr later and asked me the answer to my security question. And they didn't even give me a hint by asking the question 1st.

They were very nice, but busy, I had talked with the rep for a few minutes and she said they were being bombardered with acct signups....

These alternative e wallet have to loving these Neteller actions...

GL

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I've been using My Citadel Wallet for 2 years and it's great! I even have a credit card swiper for quick and painless deposits!


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Any fees for transactions?

Thanx'

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I just signed into my MyCitadel account to find that they are ceasing transactions to gambling sites from U.S. customers. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I have been very happy using wire transfers to deposit and checks to withdraw from PStars.

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What non-personal info do I need to give CC and Click2play in order to sign up and make a deposit? What do you guys recommend, and for which site?

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Click2pay seemed pretty easy. I believe they have there chit together. Personel info, banking, ssn, stuff like that.
Don't really like the ssn, but what ya gonna do?

There were pretty good about security. After supplying ssn, it then came up with 4 questions to answer about. Adresses I have lived at. One question was pertaining to a place I lived at over 10yrs ago....

They then called me an hr later and asked me the answer to my security question. And they didn't even give me a hint by asking the question 1st.

They were very nice, but busy, I had talked with the rep for a few minutes and she said they were being bombardered with acct signups....

These alternative e wallet have to loving these Neteller actions...

GL

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Anyone know what the max deposit/withdrawl EFT is with click2pay...thinking about going with them

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I have been very happy using wire transfers to deposit and checks to withdraw from PStars.

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Im sorry I know this is a stupid question. What is required to make a wire transfer? I was given the impression those were blocked to gambling sites.

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What non-personal info do I need to give CC and Click2play in order to sign up and make a deposit? What do you guys recommend, and for which site?

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There's a sliding scale, but if you go to site you can find the list. Click2Pay.com
Click2pay seemed pretty easy. I believe they have there chit together. Personel info, banking, ssn, stuff like that.
Don't really like the ssn, but what ya gonna do?

There were pretty good about security. After supplying ssn, it then came up with 4 questions to answer about. Adresses I have lived at. One question was pertaining to a place I lived at over 10yrs ago....

They then called me an hr later and asked me the answer to my security question. And they didn't even give me a hint by asking the question 1st.

They were very nice, but busy, I had talked with the rep for a few minutes and she said they were being bombardered with acct signups....

These alternative e wallet have to loving these Neteller actions...

GL

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Anyone know what the max deposit/withdrawl EFT is with click2pay...thinking about going with them

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Stars doesn't use Click2play do they?

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InstaDebit is no go for NY.

CentralCoin does work but requires a utility bill, driver's license, social security, *and* a current bank statement. jebus. I faxed it all in but it doesn't seem very fish friendly.

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Stars doesn't use Click2play do they?

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No.

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Stars doesn't use Click2play do they?

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No.

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It seems like the only e-wallet that is used by the big 3 for US players (Stars, UB, FT) is epassporte.

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Stars doesn't use Click2play do they?

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No.

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yeah and they charge $2 fees for cashing out too. I'm on life tilt right now.

It seems like the only e-wallet that is used by the big 3 for US players (Stars, UB, FT) is epassporte.

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InstaDebit is no go for NY.

CentralCoin does work but requires a utility bill, driver's license, social security, *and* a current bank statement. jebus. I faxed it all in but it doesn't seem very fish friendly.

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*Groan* Didn't need to jump through any hoops when I signed up but that was years ago. Just signed on again a few weeks ago but my account is locked. I just moved, rent from a guy (thus not me on utility) and my DL doesn't have my correct address. Think I will stick with ePassPorte for now as I don't feel like wasting 10 hours of my life waiting in line/on the phone. Hopefully the fish will do the same. Minus the %5 vig its great, a nearly blindly drunken fish can still get signed up and funded in under 10 minutes! Well unless their CC company freaks at a foreign charge as one of mine did... sigh maybe it is the end [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I found this site that lists poker sites and ewallets accepting US players.
http://www.compatiblepoker.com/usa.php

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I found this site that lists poker sites and ewallets accepting US players.
http://www.compatiblepoker.com/usa.php

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myCitadel - Jan. 17- Stopped all gambling transactions for US residents


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Whats up with this?

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I found this site that lists poker sites and ewallets accepting US players.
http://www.compatiblepoker.com/usa.php

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myCitadel - Jan. 17- Stopped all gambling transactions for US residents


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Whats up with this?

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They also just pulled out

VANCOUVER, Jan. 17 /CNW/ - ESI Entertainment Systems Inc. ("ESI") (TSX:
ESY), a leading provider of products and services to international
organizations and the gaming industry, today announces that effective
immediately it's subsidiary Citadel Commerce Corp. will no longer offer
financial processing to non-domestic Internet Gaming merchants for USA
consumers.
The Company was looking forward to complying with the new Regulations for
financial processors under the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of
2006 passed on October 13, 2006 but this decision was made by the ESI Board of
Directors in the light of recent US Department of Justice enforcement actions
against financial processors executives.
This decision will have a material impact on the financial condition of
the Company as a substantial part of its revenues was derived from
non-domestic Internet Gaming merchants for USA consumers.

About ESI Entertainment Systems Inc.

ESI Entertainment Systems Inc. ("ESI") (TSX: ESY) provides products and
services to the international gaming industry through its three principal
subsidiaries, Citadel Commerce Corp., ESI Integrity Inc. and PlayLine Inc.
ESI's products and services, which primarily consist of payment processing,
transaction monitoring and turnkey gaming platforms, are deployed in the
on-line and land based gaming markets.