High Stakes Poker 2/6/06
 

My first question on the episode tonight...

Why did Farha agree to run his 70-30 favorite twice?

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Since it reduces variance?

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loool, "sheiky"

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That's the first time I heard the term "straddle."

Could someone please explain this term?

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That's the first time I heard the term "straddle."

Could someone please explain this term?

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UTG posts 2x BB and becomes the "big blind" for the hand. It now costs 2x BB to call from any other position and the "Straddler" gets the option to check/raise if it is limped around.

Would be cool if they started letting us do it online, lol. Pretty much a -EV thing as it creates a big pot w. a blind hand OOP. Though it is a nice feeling to look down @ AA after you straddle and the pot is raised and re-raised.

Just instigates action really.

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Wow another bad beat for Negreanu... how many times are we gonna see him get riv'd at 200K each time?

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Todd Brunson:

I think Shawn's an idiot and he's gonna lose all his money.

Hahahahahahahahaha! That's funny because it's true.

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Quote of the night:

"I think Sean S. is an idiot" - Todd Brunson

Awesome!!!

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Wow another bad beat for Negreanu... how many times are we gonna see him get riv'd at 200K each time?

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i missed the bad beat, what hand was it again?

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Todd Brunson is officially my favorite poker player.

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Todd Brunson:

I think Shawn's an idiot and he's gonna lose all his money.

Hahahahahahahahaha! That's funny because it's true.

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sheiky will not go broke, i guarantee it

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He's right about the idiot part.

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Wow another bad beat for Negreanu... how many times are we gonna see him get riv'd at 200K each time?

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i missed the bad beat, what hand was it again?

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Flop: T 8 6

DN - AT
EE - 86

They decide to run it twice.

First time Elezra's bottom tp holds up.
Second time Daniel turns the ace, and Eli rivers the boat.

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They need to issue a DVD set of this series with no commentary. Just the table conversation.

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how much are the blinds and the ante?

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Wow another bad beat for Negreanu... how many times are we gonna see him get riv'd at 200K each time?

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i missed the bad beat, what hand was it again?

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Flop: T 8 6

DN - AT
EE - 86

They decide to run it twice.

First time Elezra's bottom tp holds up.
Second time Daniel turns the ace, and Eli rivers the boat.

[/ QUOTE ]oh , i saw that. i thought you were talking about a bad beat, thats why i was confused.

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$300/$600 blinds, $100 ante.

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Wow another bad beat for Negreanu... how many times are we gonna see him get riv'd at 200K each time?

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i missed the bad beat, what hand was it again?

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Flop: T 8 6

DN - AT
EE - 86

They decide to run it twice.

First time Elezra's bottom tp holds up.
Second time Daniel turns the ace, and Eli rivers the boat.

[/ QUOTE ]oh , i saw that. i thought you were talking about a bad beat, thats why i was confused.

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Ok. I wasn't the one who mentioned it, I just guessed that's what he was refering to.

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Wow another bad beat for Negreanu... how many times are we gonna see him get riv'd at 200K each time?

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i missed the bad beat, what hand was it again?

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Flop: T 8 6

DN - AT
EE - 86

They decide to run it twice.

First time Elezra's bottom tp holds up.
Second time Daniel turns the ace, and Eli rivers the boat.

[/ QUOTE ]oh , i saw that. i thought you were talking about a bad beat, thats why i was confused.

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Ok. I wasn't the one who mentioned it, I just guessed that's what he was refering to.

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i guess we will never know

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Wow another bad beat for Negreanu... how many times are we gonna see him get riv'd at 200K each time?

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i missed the bad beat, what hand was it again?

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Flop: T 8 6

DN - AT
EE - 86

They decide to run it twice.

First time Elezra's bottom tp holds up.
Second time Daniel turns the ace, and Eli rivers the boat.

[/ QUOTE ]oh , i saw that. i thought you were talking about a bad beat, thats why i was confused.

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Ok. I wasn't the one who mentioned it, I just guessed that's what he was refering to.

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i guess we will never know

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33 flopped set vs. KQ of Farha rivering a flush. Ws all-in on the all-diamond flop. Just my guess.

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wtf daniel just flopped a set with pocket 3 but he said he has "trips"

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wtf daniel just flopped a set with pocket 3 but he said he has "trips"

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Oh damn

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omg that 8 on the river was fugging sick. Daniel running bad

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omg that 8 on the river was fugging sick. Daniel running bad

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running bad? nobody else thoought the a-10 was a bad play since he said it himself that eli wasn't gona fold.

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Don't know if it has been discussed. I tried to search but couldn't find anything. What is the deal with seemingly intelligent people running a hand twice when they know they are a 70/30 dog. I understand why you run it twice when it's a coin flip but Daniel turned down the offer to run it twice when he was a 70/30 favorite, then took the offer when he was a 70/30 dog. That's just stupid. Why would you ever run it twice after you know you're a 70/30 dog?

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Don't know if it has been discussed. I tried to search but couldn't find anything. What is the deal with seemingly intelligent people running a hand twice when they know they are a 70/30 dog. I understand why you run it twice when it's a coin flip but Daniel turned down the offer to run it twice when he was a 70/30 favorite, then took the offer when he was a 70/30 dog. That's just stupid. Why would you ever run it twice after you know you're a 70/30 dog?

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There's this thing called variance...

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wtf daniel just flopped a set with pocket 3 but he said he has "trips"

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?

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Running it twice does not change the EV of the hand. Please dont argue just know that it is true. All it does is reduce the variance.

Do a search in the 6 month to 1 year range in the omaha forum. There was a very good discussion of this earlier.

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As a 70/30 dog by running it twice you change from winning 30% and losing 70% to winning 9% losing 49% and splitting 42% (equity of .4*pot in both cases). Choosing the latter lowers your variance.

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Is it just me, or does Eli Elezra seem like the nicest guy ever?

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Daniel's 'bad beats' were as follows:

Against Barry, Daniel opened the pot with a raise with K9c UF and Bar reraised with AJo...Daniel flopped the #2 flush (@ 1%) and Bar raised Daniel's bet...Daniel then came over the top for @ $90,000 setting Bar all in. Bar made the $80-90K call with the ONE car nut flush draw and made the hand. Daniel lost roughly $100,000 on that hand (last week I believe).

This week in a multi way unraised pot (I think) Daniel flopped a set of 3's against a board of A 3 6 (?) all diamonds....I believe Sam made a small lead at the pot, Daniel once again came over the top and set Sam in for @ $100,000. Sammy drew out on him with the non nut flush (KQ queen of diamonds).

In two similiar situatuons Daniel is stuck @ $200,000 in this game.

Hope this helps, Rianna.

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What did Tod Brunson say?

After Sammy Farha said: " I'm glad we ran it twice?"

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Brunson said, "I should have just kept my mouth shut," or something to that effect.

btw remember the classic Brunson line at Poker Superstars II? he was at the table with Antonio, Bobby Hoff, Mortensen, Caro and Deeb.
"I got not shot on this table. Im here with a matador, a genius, a magician, a wizard..., and a terrorist."

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Todd Brunson:

I think Shawn's an idiot and he's gonna lose all his money.

Hahahahahahahahaha! That's funny because it's true.

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sheiky will not go broke, i guarantee it

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Can you hook me up with your avatar, pretty please??

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Where's the torrent? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Lets see if them rules here are consistent [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Quote of the night:

"I think Sean S. is an idiot" - Todd Brunson

Awesome!!!

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NHS ;~)

Did he really grab a $100 chip from Farha's stack???? I thought the ESPN stuff was just edited for high drama crap but Todd naileds it. Shawn "Shiek" Sheikhan is a punk.

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He said that he wished he'd kept his mouth shut.....

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Classic humor

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I'm assuming, based on the show, that I misunderstood how running twice or three times works.

Is it the common practice to NOT shuffle in the original board cards (in this case, turn and river cards only) when you deal out the 2nd or 3rd boards?