2/4 - blind situation
 

Villain is 52/10/0.97 over 140 hands.

Am I missing a bet somewhere (river) or is this OK as is ?

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2./$4
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5SB, 2 players)a
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls <font color="aaaaaa">(8:1)</font>.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls <font color="aaaaaa">(5.5:1)</font>.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls <font color="aaaaaa">(7.5:1)</font>.

Results:
Final pot: 8.5BB

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

I'd fold the flop and fold the turn.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

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I'd fold the flop and fold the turn.

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i'd prob do same. being weak i'd probably just throw a sb in to call the raise then fold turn.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

The turn and river seem okay to me. I'm not sure what's best on the flop, but calling and then re-evaluating on the turn seems reasonable enough.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

you don't have odds to peel this flop unless you are calling down UI.

calling down would be bad.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

I'm all for loose peels and stuff but this is a bad spot for it on the flop. bdfd is pretty low and J,T are right in his range. Plus he's passive. I'm calling the turn though as played.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

why oh why doews a person per-heel this flop?
it' probably got someting to do with with the fact that you DIDN'T have sex with your mother when you were 13.
people from the civilised world know that you have to get it out of your system when you're young

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

You're not missing any bets, you're giving them away. And don't ever raise the river with the seventh best one card flush unless you want to learn the meaning of pwned, regardless of whether you won this hand or not.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

Fold flop, fold turn.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

Bd flush + Bd straight + very aggressive opponent + draw heavy type flop + a flop that I have to b/f + potentially winning 2 - 3 big bets if I turn an A or even a 7 + 5 spades on turn give me two draws + deception (maybe more important than you think when c-betting blind battles) = potential flop check

OK fine I'd never do this but villan appears aggressive enough to want to - and yeah, our bd draw cards hit villan's hand so just bet the flop - but maybe good if you have the rocks to calldown like a 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the turn and a K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the river.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

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very aggressive opponent

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I wouldn't call this opponent very aggressive.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

I think I'd fold the flop though because you're opponent has very likely at least a pair given his sb cold-calling range and then you have something like 3-4 outs. But that river call is ok. Raise would be a spew with a lesser flush than 3rd nuts, I think.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

fold flop and it's not even close.

Turn is borderline.
Doing a quick aproximation: the chance an opponent has a spade given no information from betting patterns is &lt; 1/3

If he has a spade, it's probabily higher than a 7. Cards called from the BB mostly contain cards higher than 6. So id estimate &gt;50% of the time if the opponent has a spade, it will be better than yours. So id estimate your outs are good a little greater than 75% of the time.
So ~6 outs for the FD, and id estimate you have about 1-1.25 outs to the ace.
Very little to no implied odds because your paying off about half the time on your ace and wont always get payed off on your spade, but are always paying off a better spade.

Getting 5.5 to 1 with aproximatly 7.25 outs is a borderline situation. It probabily doesnt matter what you do. Also some people would always pay you off with any pair so you actually have slight implied odds, in which case I would call. Also I just did a very quick aproximation on you being good when the flush card lands. So maybe you are not good 75% of the time, maybe you are more.


River raising is not a good idea without a solid read.
IE if you convinced he would always pay you off with any pair and would never 3-bet spazz bluff, it may be okay.
Contrary to popular opinion, there do exist opponents where I would raise this here.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

I would definitely not per-heel this flop. I also think the turn is a fold as played.

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

you won the hand, nh

Re: 2/4 - blind situation
 

Thanks for everyone for comments and analysis. This got more replies than I anticipated. I agree this should have been rather clear fold on the flop.