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themobfather 01-06-2007 08:17 PM

Overvaluing AK?
 
Villian is 18/10/1.6 over about 500 hands. No real reads at the time. I'm pretty new to limit, playing NL almost exclusively before. How did I play this?


Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
8 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 calls all-in $1</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.5SB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 4.5SB, Sidepot 1: 1SB)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.75BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 2.25BB, Sidepot 1: 1.5BB)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (11.75BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 2.25BB, Sidepot 1: 9.5BB)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 15.75BB

Xhad 01-06-2007 08:20 PM

Re: Overvaluing AK?
 
I'd just call down the turn 3bet; you're frequently chopping and it sets you up for a lose2/win 1 type situation (which was what ended up happening)

benwood 01-06-2007 08:27 PM

Re: Overvaluing AK?
 
When he 3-bets the turn,most of the time he has AA,KK, or AK.I don't like your chances.

Ricks 01-06-2007 11:27 PM

Re: Overvaluing AK?
 
A player who has an AF of 1.6 over 500 hands is usually not aggressive enough to 3-bet this turn with anything that you are ahead of. As has been said already, you should just call the turn 3-bet and hope for another AK.

WalkAmongUs 01-07-2007 12:49 AM

Re: Overvaluing AK?
 
i'd have capped this PF.

MikeyEdge 01-07-2007 02:21 AM

Re: Overvaluing AK?
 
I would have bet out on the flop. I think you tried to get too fancy with two pair by waiting for the check raise on the turn. If he raises you call. Then if there's not a scare card on the turn I would bet out again.

Xhad 01-07-2007 02:29 AM

Re: Overvaluing AK?
 
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i'd have capped this PF.

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Hero is OOP with what is basically a HU pot; capping AKo isn't imperative.

Harv72b 01-07-2007 03:11 AM

Re: Overvaluing AK?
 
It's not imperative, but with Hero apparently isolating on a short stack from the SB &amp; being 3bet by the BB, I think it's for value very, very often.

WalkAmongUs 01-07-2007 01:45 PM

Re: Overvaluing AK?
 
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It's not imperative, but with Hero apparently isolating on a short stack from the SB &amp; being 3bet by the BB, I think it's for value very, very often.

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I'd also add that if you are going to pass up value, you should have a good reason to.

Xhad 01-07-2007 02:44 PM

Re: Overvaluing AK?
 
Reason is, your being OOP blunts your edge somewhat, plus you can make some of that value back by raising villain's expected cbet when you hit the flop.

W. Deranged 01-07-2007 03:43 PM

Re: Overvaluing AK?
 
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It's not imperative, but with Hero apparently isolating on a short stack from the SB &amp; being 3bet by the BB, I think it's for value very, very often.

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I agree.


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