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MelchyBeau 12-29-2006 01:09 AM

Ethiopia in Somalia, possible last stand
 
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Witnesses reported seeing a large number of foreign fighters in the convoys heading south. Islamic movement leaders had called on foreign Muslims to join their "holy war" against Ethiopia, which has a large Christian population. Hundreds were believed to have answered the call.

Islamic fighters have gone door-to-door in Kismayo, recruiting children as young as 12 to make a last stand on behalf of the Islamic courts, according to a confidential U.N. situation report citing the families of boys taken to the front-line town of Jilib, 110 kilometers north of Kismayo.

Residents told the AP Islamic leader Hassan Dahir Aweys had arrived in Jilib with hundreds of fighters in 45 pickup trucks mounted with anti-aircraft guns.

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http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article19493

Title fixed

Howard Beale 12-29-2006 01:25 AM

Re: Ethiopia in Sudan, possible last stand
 
Just another of the world's ugly messes taking it's turn in the headlines. Tune in next week for the latest installment.

Poofler 12-29-2006 01:32 AM

Re: Ethiopia in Sudan, possible last stand
 
How thoughtful of previous warlords to take control of certain areas on the "government's behalf".

Copernicus 12-29-2006 11:29 AM

Re: Ethiopia in Sudan, possible last stand
 
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Just another of the world's ugly messes taking it's turn in the headlines. Tune in next week for the latest installment.

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And what is the likelihood that next weeks installment will involve radical Islam?

Bill Haywood 12-29-2006 01:35 PM

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Ethiopia has invaded Sudan, in addition to Somalia???

I think the newspaper source (Sudan Tribune) is being confused with the site.

canis582 12-29-2006 01:59 PM

Re: Ethiopia in Sudan, possible last stand
 
Ethiopia is acting as America's client state to topple an emerging muslim government.

iron81 12-29-2006 02:11 PM

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Yeah, Ethiopia invaded Somalia instead of Sudan. They joined forces with the UN backed government and they just captured Mogadishu yesterday.

This is actually good news for us. There was a very good chance that the Islamic government was going to turn into the Taliban, complete with terrorist harboring.

MelchyBeau 12-29-2006 03:06 PM

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oops, I apologize for that mixup. they invaded Somalia

pvn 12-29-2006 03:35 PM

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Yeah, Ethiopia invaded Somalia

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WARNING: AC TROLL MAFIA HIJACK ALERT!

I wonder why they sat on their hands for years while Somalia had no government, then invaded right after a government formed.

iron81 12-29-2006 03:37 PM

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This is an excellent point. I suspect its possible that Washington used the Ethiopians the same way we did the Northern Alliance to drive out the islamists.

Mickey Brausch 12-29-2006 07:03 PM

Down With All Governments
 
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Ethiopia invaded Somalia

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I wonder why [the Ethiopians] sat on their hands for years while Somalia had no government, then invaded right after a government formed.

[/ QUOTE ]GASP. Omygod. The Ethiopians are ...ACers??

pvn 12-29-2006 07:10 PM

Re: Down With All Governments
 
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Ethiopia invaded Somalia

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I wonder why [the Ethiopians] sat on their hands for years while Somalia had no government, then invaded right after a government formed.

[/ QUOTE ]GASP. Omygod. The Ethiopians are ...ACers??

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Brilliant. Did you hear the "woosh" as it sailed right over your head?

Mickey Brausch 12-29-2006 07:21 PM

Re: Down With All Governments
 
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I wonder why [the Ethiopians] sat on their hands for years while Somalia had no government, then invaded right after a government formed.

[/ QUOTE ]GASP. Omygod. The Ethiopians are ...ACers??

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Brilliant. Did you hear the "woosh" as it sailed right over your head?

[/ QUOTE ]Ojeezus. SHUDDER. It's true! He's trying to cover it up!

canis582 12-30-2006 12:23 AM

Re: Down With All Governments
 
Hows AC working in Somolia, Iraq and Ethiopia anyway?

ACists are AWESOME marathon runners.

ShakeZula06 12-30-2006 12:44 AM

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Hows AC working in Somolia, Iraq and Ethiopia anyway?

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Why would Somalia, Iraq, and Euthopia be examples of AC anyway? Oh it's because you're a troll I forgot, time to try again.

BigBadBabar 12-30-2006 12:47 AM

Re: Down With All Governments
 
pot meet kettle, happy holidays and thanks for another clutch post [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

ShakeZula06 12-30-2006 12:53 AM

Re: Down With All Governments
 
So, why are you calling me a troll?

nicky g 12-30-2006 09:33 AM

Re: Ethiopia in Sudan, possible last stand
 
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This is an excellent point. I suspect its possible that Washington used the Ethiopians the same way we did the Northern Alliance to drive out the islamists.

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The Northern Alliance were Islamists.

nicky g 12-30-2006 10:37 PM

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This is actually good news for us. There was a very good chance that the Islamic government was going to turn into the Taliban, complete with terrorist harboring.

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That is a rather short-term view. The Islamic Courts brought order to a previously perfect example of a failed state, to the extent that refugees were returning in large numbers (a recent British programme interviewed children brought up in the UK back in school in Mogadishu). The Ethiopians are hated in Somalia and their Somali allies aren;t much more popular amongst the people and are relying on the Ethiopians (under a brutal dictator) and warlords to enforce their rule. They show little sign of leaving and peace is not exactly on teh horizon, now there's a fioreign occupation army and the Somailis have the warlords and likely more chaos and violence back.

The Islamic Courts were a broad movement with extemists amongst them, but the majority were interested in Somalia and Somalia alone and comparatively moderate (especially considering the oppositon consists essentially of warlords involved in the killing sof US troops there in teh 1990s). A better move would have been to court and boost those moderate elements. Instead Somalia may well return to failed-statedom, boosting extremism and chaos and with likely long term consequences that will not be favourable to anyone, including the US (although the effects on it will be dwarfed by the on-going suffering of the Somalis - but hey, worrying about fallout for the US empire has always done Africa so many favours - eg Mobutu).

kagame 01-03-2007 12:30 AM

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effing hell


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