AlwaysAir: The Aftermath
 

I'm not very sure where to start - the only logical thing to do is start from the top. My name is Jason Lavallee, and I'm a poker player. Yup yup, that's my real name and I've been going through hell with this poker community thing for awhile - and I got sick of it.

It started off with a website thing (I'm too lazy/pissed to find the link to use the search button you lazy [censored]) - which I wasnt guilty in any way, maybe except me not taking into consideration that if I dont log on for 3 days ppl might start looking me up in the phonebook. Needless to say when I got back from my poker vacation, I had 81 emails regarding the subject (no exageration) and I had a lot of holes to patch up. I was suprised that JKRANTZ, the beloved coach and owner of 3-bet didn't defend me when I did actualy told him that I was leaving for awhile. So much for loyalty.

Another frustration came with 3-bet - the idea behind it: great but let's just say that our relashionship wasn't the best in the world. Mostly due to poor organisational skills or maybe just laziness, I often wasn't paid for 2 weeks and had to bring it up countless times - and of course wanting to get paid is something no one else wants but me.

[ Note: I never skimmed anything from the students you gave to me krantz, the DISCOUNED rates I was giving were to students that pmed me through sites or referrals hence I was freelancing, and you didnt have any [censored] thing to do with any $ I made off of it so back the [censored] off ]

So far, it was mostly a set of circumstances and being surrounded by idiots that lead to my downfall - everything past that I assume full responsability for. I was fed up, with life, poker, relashionships, and a few other issues that I discuss with ppl im a little more familiar with (That includes prop bets ppl dont fallow up on and shady rakeback [censored]). But without getting into too many details, I said [censored] it closed all my accounts, changed emails closed everything and left the community - which didn't really solve any of my frustrations.

Then I sign on AIM tonight, looking to pay back everyone I owed money to. Being pretty emotional it touched me when some of my students actualy offered some help and support vs the problems I was facing and I realised that I had to clear this up, not for anyone else but myself. A selfish quest one might say but I had to do it.

So am I an [censored]? Yes

Should I be forgiven? I probably wouldnt forgive myself

Am I going to hide switch SNs on everysite and stop coaching? No, I guess this is my way to man up and no run away from my problems.

Am I busto? No but close

To be honest, I feel like I'm rambling on for ages here and I'm really sure what I'm trying to accomplish, so maybe I can just answer some specifics you guys might have (if any).

I'd just like to end this by saying that I really dont have a "con" bone in my body, and I'm sorry everyone I hurt in the process and I hope you appreaciate my honesty.

And to the students who PMed me kind words today, I love you guys your the online reason I'm here.

AA

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no one care

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lol yves.

this is a serious question.

are you actually any good at poker?

the reason i ask is because i feel like if i needed 3k I could grind it in like a day pretty easily.

so are you any good? i mean, to be a coach you have to be decent, right?

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Maybe you should coach AE?

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lol yves.

this is a serious question.

are you actually any good at poker?

the reason i ask is because i feel like if i needed 3k I could grind it in like a day pretty easily.

so are you any good? i mean, to be a coach you have to be decent, right?

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You can say I'm an [censored], a douche, a bad human being for all I care. But calling me a bad coach is something you cant do.

People can question my ethics but I dare you to find 1 student that wasn't satisfied with what I had to offer.

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beat: laval. Seriosuly, move to the city, go to school. Youll be happier.

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beat: laval. Seriosuly, move to the city, go to school. Youll be happier.

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I am moving actualy -

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oh, and I understand how you think since they came to you directly you dont have to pay a percentage, but thats not how it works if you sign up for some sort of program like that. You did [censored] krantz over by doing that bro.

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jason, you're out of your mind. throughout our entire 'relationship' you've been ridiculously sketchy. as far as paying you, that was back when we were first getting started and justin was doing a [censored] job as admin. despite that, i kept you updated every single day in the face of your incessant whining about getting paid (if you really played and won as high as you said you did, why the [censored] would you care about waiting a few extra days to get paid for coaching?). Dude, I even offered to front the money myself once or twice if you really couldn't wait. I COMMUNICATED with you.

You, on the other hand, continued to be totally shady, and completely disappear (and start a new 2p2 name, no less) in the midst of two separate and significantly shady situations.

I shouldn't even dignify your 2-year old behavior but I don't want your poor conduct to reflect negatively on myself and the rest of the people who are doing a great job coaching for us. I suppose it was my own fault and my own naivete to bring you on board without making sure you were actually a player and winner at the stakes you claimed.

Anyone burned by Jason by way of 3-bet - feel free to PM me and I'll do my best to work something out with you.

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Krantz,

How high did AlwaysAir claim to play?

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jason, you're out of your mind. throughout our entire 'relationship' you've been ridiculously sketchy. as far as paying you, that was back when we were first getting started and justin was doing a [censored] job as admin. despite that, i kept you updated every single day in the face of your incessant whining about getting paid (if you really played and won as high as you said you did, why the [censored] would you care about waiting a few extra days to get paid for coaching?). Dude, I even offered to front the money myself once or twice if you really couldn't wait. I COMMUNICATED with you.

You, on the other hand, continued to be totally shady, and completely disappear (and start a new 2p2 name, no less) in the midst of two separate and significantly shady situations.

I shouldn't even dignify your 2-year old behavior but I don't want your poor conduct to reflect negatively on myself and the rest of the people who are doing a great job coaching for us. I suppose it was my own fault and my own naivete to bring you on board without making sure you were actually a player and winner at the stakes you claimed.

Anyone burned by Jason by way of 3-bet - feel free to PM me and I'll do my best to work something out with you.

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I fixed my own problems thanks - and dont get me started on your skills as a poker player please.

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oh, and I understand how you think since they came to you directly you dont have to pay a percentage, but thats not how it works if you sign up for some sort of program like that. You did [censored] krantz over by doing that bro.

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actually the coaches are free to do their own coaching if they want, they just have to make themselves available for some level of 3-bet coaching each month.

but we sent several people his way and then i heard from them down the line that jason had been coaching them - but we never knew about this.

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Krantz,

How high did AlwaysAir claim to play?

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up through 25/50

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What is 3-bet?

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Krantz,

How high did AlwaysAir claim to play?

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I never claimed to be anything spectacular or super human, but I had a PTBB of +4 at 2/4 and up, and if krantz made a fallow up on my students he woulda known that they are doing great.

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and dont get me started on your skills as a poker player please.

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oooo burn, please get started

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Maybe you should coach AE?

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maybe I should

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Krantz,

then you are a bad business man in the sense that you are giving your roster of coaches way too much.

edit: I mean you are being overly nice when you should be making more profits, well you get what I mean.

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oh, and I understand how you think since they came to you directly you dont have to pay a percentage, but thats not how it works if you sign up for some sort of program like that. You did [censored] krantz over by doing that bro.

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actually the coaches are free to do their own coaching if they want, they just have to make themselves available for some level of 3-bet coaching each month.

but we sent several people his way and then i heard from them down the line that jason had been coaching them - but we never knew about this.

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The only ones with who I did that were students who couldnt afford your rates, i even cut on my profit so they could afford coaching - And it happened twice.

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Krantz,

then you are a bad business man in the sense that you are giving your roster of coaches way too much.

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maybe so, but im learning as i go. we're doing OK so far and nothing's set in stone.

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Krantz,

How high did AlwaysAir claim to play?

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I never claimed to be anything spectacular or super human, but I had a PTBB of +4 at 2/4 and up, and if krantz made a fallow up on my students he woulda known that they are doing great.

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PT screenshot please

I'm interested in getting some coaching, and I'd like to review your qualifications.

PS I've heard your former students are doing great [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Krantz,

How high did AlwaysAir claim to play?

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up through 25/50

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Okay I'm trying to be honest here, I have about 15k hands played at 25/50 in my LIFE - I never implied I was a 25/50 reg or even a 10/20 reg - you can in no way say that I'm not a good coach. I challenge you to find a student that didn't like what I had to offer. Do it.

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Always Air,

You seem like a huge douchebag. And trying to defend yourself at this point is quite futile; you should quit now. But I reiterate, you're a huge douchebag.

Cheers,
Duck

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you were a good coach. your students say so. that doesn't change the fact that you conduct yourself poorly, are sketchy as [censored] and [censored] some kids out of a lot of money.

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Krantz,

How high did AlwaysAir claim to play?

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I never claimed to be anything spectacular or super human, but I had a PTBB of +4 at 2/4 and up, and if krantz made a fallow up on my students he woulda known that they are doing great.

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PT screenshot please

I'm interested in getting some coaching, and I'd like to review your qualifications.

PS I've heard your former students are doing great [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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when someone dickrides the other should be wearing a condom...

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you were a good coach. your students say so. that doesn't change the fact that you conduct yourself poorly, are sketchy as [censored] and [censored] some kids out of a lot of money.

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They were all paid back, hence the topic. I never denied acting like a child - I realise it and it's a work in progress thanks.

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Always Air,

You seem like a huge douchebag. And trying to defend yourself at this point is quite futile; you should quit now. But I reiterate, you're a huge douchebag.

Cheers,
Duck

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your right, im done trying to defend myself - I said what had to be said now do what you want

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i will never be into coaching or being coached, but if I was, I think I would steer clear of whatever this 3bet organization is. It might be good and all, but everytime I read about it everything seems real sketchy. too much drama.

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Krantz,

It seems like you don't screen your coaches properly...if you do, what steps do you take to make sure that they aren't lying sketchballs?

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So am I an [censored]? Yes

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Krantz,

It seems like you don't screen your coaches properly...if you do, what steps do you take to make sure that they aren't lying sketchballs?

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most of them are well known, some are former students. i dont know about that guy MDMA though. pretty sure he's a busto mike matusow tryin to scrape a bankroll together again.

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i will never be into coaching or being coached, but if I was, I think I would steer clear of whatever this 3bet organization is. It might be good and all, but everytime I read about it everything seems real sketchy. too much drama.

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If I came off a little hard on 3-bet it wasn't my intention. I'm pretty emotional and can easily get carried away. The coaches on 3-bet are great, I havent talked to them personally in most cases but I get alot of their previous students and get really good feedback. Krantz did a great job at hand picking those coaches and I'm pretty sure their success rate is as high if not greater then mine.

Most of my frustration came from the beggining of the 3-bet - hence krantz taking as bad of a player like me I guess.

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i will never be into coaching or being coached, but if I was, I think I would steer clear of whatever this 3bet organization is. It might be good and all, but everytime I read about it everything seems real sketchy. too much drama.

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3-bet.net. see for yourself.

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AA,

3 questions:

1) why did you steal money from people

2) why have you not returned all of it

3) why are you still posting here

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AA,

3 questions:

1) why did you steal money from people

Emotional swing/depression = careless decisions. If I cooked up a plan to steal from everyone I knew I would of stolen ALOT more.

2) why have you not returned all of it

I've sent half to everyone, and I'm wire'ing some money to neteller as we speak.

3) why are you still posting here

trying to make amends, I could easily run off and not give a [censored], I'm moving in 2 weeks - but it's not like me. I might be childish, immature but I man up to my mistakes. Now you can keep calling me a doushe, an [censored] or whatever corny/cocky comment you have - that makes you much better then me, kick a man while he's down.

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Whoa whoa whoa. Everybody calm down. I probably shouldnt have posted anything in the first place, I really didnt think Jason would take off with our money. Obviously I was very frustrated and may have acted too soon.
Jason has paid me back almost all of the money, and the rest is coming shortly. The same for deerok. He explained the situation, and it is completely understandable. Sure, he should have told me whats up. All of us. But he didnt, and its in the past. The fact that he had the balls to come back and explain himself to everyone is huge. He could have easily just created a new identity and gone on with life, and our money. He didnt, and I respect him and forgive him for that.

As far as Jason and coaching. I can honestly say he is one of the best coaches I have had, actually, the best. He is a great coach, and I am pretty sure all of his past students will agree with me. Whether or not he continues with 3bet or not, thats his choice. However, I will continue to recommend him to anyone seeking a coach.

What Jason did may have been shady, I certainly thought it was. He came back and made everything right, again. He didnt have to. I respect him for that, and wish him well in the future.

P.S. If I can forgive him, I think everyone should be able to. He owed me the most money, heh.

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AA,

3 questions:

1) why did you steal money from people

Emotional swing/depression = careless decisions. If I cooked up a plan to steal from everyone I knew I would of stolen ALOT more.

2) why have you not returned all of it

I've sent half to everyone, and I'm wire'ing some money to neteller as we speak.

3) why are you still posting here

trying to make amends, I could easily run off and not give a [censored], I'm moving in 2 weeks - but it's not like me. I might be childish, immature but I man up to my mistakes. Now you can keep calling me a doushe, an [censored] or whatever corny/cocky comment you have - that makes you much better then me, kick a man while he's down.

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Depression doesn't make people become thieves. You stole money from your friends and the only reason you are here is you got called on it. You are a world-class scumbag.

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However, I will continue to recommend him to anyone seeking a coach.

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haha, sweet

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thanks soon2b... appreaciate it.

side note: I think me and Krantz can both agree that a partnership isnt in our best interests - I wish him and his crew the best of luck in their venture.