BOTS on Absolute poker
 

1st post here, long time 2+2er forum reader. Playing at Absolute Poker, 6 handed small stakes limit, and ran into this guy, who showed me how to detect bots playing there. I was kind of freaked out at how many where playing at Absolute. He told me about 15 names of bots there. So i tried his trick. The trick is , if there are 3 or less people at a table , the bot will lock up for 30 seconds, then go away.

I told people at the table too sit out (this being a full 6 max table ) because there were 2 bots there. Sure enough , both locked up and then left. i don't know if others know about this, i couldn't find it anywhere in the forum.

But anyways, the bot threads are kind of freaking me out.
Can't imagine it being good for the game at all. Any thoughts would be great thanks.

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Maybe they just didn't want to play heads up possibly. Thanks for the heads up though.

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Maybe they just didn't want to play heads up possibly. Thanks for the heads up though.

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LOL

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Post names, limits, games plz.

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Sure.
These names range from the .10/.20 too the .50/1.00 limit games. I have not dectected any in the 3/6 limit or higher games yet.

**tested = they locked up for 30 seconds when people sat out

swagdogg
skully8
katie85 - tested
melc8 - tested
matt4hire - tested
ln8268
lawflukeit - tested
hamil8
tommyg
pearty - tested

the non tested ones are the names i got from the one guy who showed me how to detect them.

I got the rest of the names on another piece of paper, i am looking for it now, will post them when i find them.

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Its not uncommon for some players to bail when table numbers reach a certain point.Having said that,it doesnt hurt to keep an eye out for sure.Ive been playing alot of 1/2 there,was curious if i might recognize some of your suspects,but dont so far on your first short list.

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Still looking for my other list.

It's not the fact that they are bailing when the table is low on people, people always do that, they just sit out then *poof* they are gone from the table. It's when they lock up for 30 seconds when the the table gets low on people that gives them away. Some of them are on now if u want to try it out and see what happens.

And the bots i mentioned, they don't play at 1/2, sorry, it's .50/1.00 limit or less. My mistake.

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Are you really gay? Pictures?

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u really want pictures?? lol

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only if ur hot. r u hot?

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Bots are inevitable at lower limits IMO. However, if there are two or more at a table, like you mentioned, then it becomes a problem.

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I accually saw 3 at a table at one point, and all 3 were in massive pot in .50/1.00, because one had a set, another 2 pair, and the other had a straight. Was pretty funny to watch.

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So, no pics? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I don't play at absolute, but are you sure this isn't some affect of people sitting out. E.g. they leave the table but it takes 30 seconds for them to dissapear.

Email absolute support right away.

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Are these bots winning players?

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Email absolute support right away.

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Are you really gay? Pictures?

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Bots jsut don't lock up if the table clears. Bot check for number of opponents, then sit out if it reaches a threshold. If the bot sits out for a specific amount of time, then it will leave the table.

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the bot will lock up for 30 seconds, then go away.

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Please explain what you mean by the term "lock up"?

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Its not uncommon for some players to bail when table numbers reach a certain point.

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But if the chat says this:

1: hey everyone those are bots I know whot to get rid of them
2: What?!?!?
3: ZOMG!
1: seriously, just sit out for 30 seconds
2: really?
1: yes really, they will lock for 30 seconds then leave
3: OK I'll try it
2: sitting out
1: OK now

Then when 4 & 5 lock for 30 seconds and then leave, you can be pretty sure its not because they are people that think the table is breaking.

I'd like to hear what "lock" means too, and how its different from a person leaving the table.

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the bot will lock up for 30 seconds, then go away.

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Please explain what you mean by the term "lock up"?

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If you are a regular on absolute you have seen people "lock up" before. I don't know how to make it happen. I think it is disconnect related or something.

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The "lock up" describes the 30 second delay when someone disconnects. If you leave a table at Absolute without sitting out first or when it is waiting for you (or someone else) to post a blind it does this.

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But if the chat says this:

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Wait... you expect that everyone reads chat?

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The "lock up" describes the 30 second delay when someone disconnects. If you leave a table at Absolute without sitting out first or when it is waiting for you (or someone else) to post a blind it does this.

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PA, so he's saying that if everyone else sits out, the Bots disconnect?

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The "lock up" describes the 30 second delay when someone disconnects. If you leave a table at Absolute without sitting out first or when it is waiting for you (or someone else) to post a blind it does this.

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PA, so he's saying that if everyone else sits out, the Bots disconnect?

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I've never seen what I thought were bots there but they way this is described it seems the bots (or alleged) disconnect on their action. The thing is that often players do this when the game gets short handed at AP. A disconnect and leaving the game on their action (blinds/antes/calls etc.) looks like the same thing to other players at the table.

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I run SpadeEye while playing FTP. When the number of players leave/sit out hits three, SpadeEye autocloses the table for me, whether I am in the hand or not. If I am not paying attention (and Pause SpadeEye), it costs me at times.

Sounds like an alternate explaination for your situation.

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I also play at absolute and although I had suspicions about bots I had no idea how to spot them ! I thankyou for this information, I will definately give it a try!! Anyone know of any other ways to identify these bots??

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It makes more sense for bots to be at 1/2 and higher because of the bonus requirements. Since they raised the rake threshold last December .5/1 has played very soft since it is very rare for a pot to be 10 dollars or higher.

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Bots make me sad.[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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So I decided to check up on the names listed here.

I found Katie85, melc8, lawflukeit, and hamil8 all 4 tabling the .10/.20 6 max tables. They play a tight, very aggressive game, didn't respond to chat, and could only be found at tables with 5 or 6 players. Plus, I saw Raiseurace and cat cool fitting the same description.

Unfortunately for them there aren't many others for them to play against so they are taking each other's money. In fact, right now the average plrs/flop in the .10/.20 games is lower than the 10/20 games.

I couldn't do the 3 handed-disconnect test because there are more than 3 suspected bots at all the active tables. Either way, it seems very odd that the .10/.20 games would be loaded with 4-tabling TAGs.

I Just Tested Swagdog And It Worked !!
 

I just tried this on Swagdog and it worked! At first I figured I would see if I could get him to chat.I noticed his location was from Burlington(I assumed Vermont) so I asked him if it was cold there. Then another player at the table said "He won't respond to you he is a bot". I then told the table about the sitting out trick. Two hands later we all sat out and just as the OP said would happen Swagdog left the table. I have played with a few of these names in the past and definately noticed that they played a very aggressive game for .10/.20. Thank you very much to the OP for the heads-up.

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The question remains.....are they winning?

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The thing that sucks is i don't have poker tracker, so i can't compare the stats with each other. But from what i seen, they win a little more then they lose. I am just glad someone tried it out lol. Thought i was going crazy or something. But if anyone suspects then at higher limits, and see simular stats on poker tracker, it wouldn't hurt to try the test out and give it feeback. I would love to know the higher limit bots. In case someone isn't clear on how to do the test, or i said something confusing about it, i can explain it in detail, my writing skills sometimes isn't up too par.

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The question remains.....are they winning?

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No. THe question is...how much longer before online poker dries up and blows away?

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The sky is falling run forrest run!!!!

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I agree with ya 100% heavily. It does scare me that a bot will be at every table at every site. I mean you will need to be an grandmaster poker player just to take a little money from them in the near future, because i bet in a few years the bots will be top of the line.
I mean i don't know how many of you play chess for example, but for those that do, do u thing u can beat that master computer program player? (not sure what it is called)

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Also, the bots you speak of seem to always buy in for either $5 or $10, never the $2 minimum.

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it amazes me ABS does not kill these guys ASAP.

it is like they need them for more traffic.

can any of you guys exploit them?

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The sky fell for Americans about two months ago. It gets worse from here on.