Wisdom Teeth Anaesthetic Question
 

im getting my wisdom teeth taken out on thursday. the nurse lady said something about smoking weed, past 30 days, and the operation. i have definitely smoked numerous times in the past 30 days. i was wondering if weed would have a negative affect given (im guessing) the anaesthetics they would use during the operation. im not sure what type of anaesthetics they would be using, but she did say there would be an iv going into my hand and there would be a shot administered to my mouth. im getting 2 teeth taken out, one on the top right the other on the bottom right.

i dont want to die.

any ideas ?

p.s. im kind of nervous about the whole thing. feel free to share any stories regarding this operation if you've undergone it in the past.

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she said something about weed? why didn't you say "yes, i've smoked weed in the past 30 days." i don't see how it could affect anything. also, you definitely want to get the laughing gas. it's so much fun and makes dental work almost worth it.

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the nurse was reading some rules off a sheet or something it wasnt really a question directed to me.

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Disclaimer: I'm not an anesthesiologist, but I'm going to be.

There's absolutely no interaction with THC and the anesthestics you'll be getting. Rest easy.

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the nurse was reading some rules off a sheet or something it wasnt really a question directed to me.

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So?

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my guess it's some left over reagan war on drugs [censored]

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I had my wisdom teeth pulled over the summer. It was absolutely the most painful thing i've ever gone through. The feeling of them ripping your teeth from your skull is completely indescribable, and you will never bet he same.













Edited to add: I'm actually just kidding, this [censored] was nothing. I didn't even feel them pull the teeth out, and it literally took them under 30 seconds to pull out all four. The vicodin they gave me was enough to cover up whatever pain there was afterwards, and I wasn't even sore once I was through with the prescription.

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i dont want to die.

any ideas ?

p.s. im kind of nervous about the whole thing. feel free to share any stories regarding this operation if you've undergone it in the past.

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You don't want to die so instead of doing the smart thing and talking to the nurse, you decide to ask OOT.
Brilliant

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she said something about weed? why didn't you say "yes, i've smoked weed in the past 30 days." i don't see how it could affect anything. also, you definitely want to get the laughing gas. it's so much fun and makes dental work almost worth it.

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Fedfan,

You didn't get a general anesthetic? No way would I do that.

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she said something about weed? why didn't you say "yes, i've smoked weed in the past 30 days." i don't see how it could affect anything. also, you definitely want to get the laughing gas. it's so much fun and makes dental work almost worth it.

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I don't think you guys understand the context. When they go over all of this crap, he is getting general anesthesia. He won't be conscious so they aren't going to give him nitrous as well, not that he could feel it anyways.

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I had the IV when I got mine pulled 3-4 years ago. I remember the surgeon talking to me about football and then waking up feeling groggy and drunkish in a different room with a Sports Illustrated in my lap.

You don't feel anything right after the operation because of the painkillers. However, in the few days after, your cheeks swell to chipmunk level and you will experience a dull, constant pain.

Other Cons:
- I had to stick gauze pads in my mouth for a few days (I had all 4 taken out) and when I took the pads out they were all bloody and filled with puss. Not the prettiest sight.
- You can't really do anything for the few days after, you have to ice your cheeks on and off for 30 min. at a time and you feel like crap the whole time.

After 3-4 days you will be fine.


To your original ?:
I don't think weed will have any effect on your anethesia. You will be OK.

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Fedfan,

You didn't get a general anesthetic? No way would I do that.

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Extractions vary a lot. I had mine done with just gas and had no trouble. My sister basically had her entire jaw opened up and her teeth cracked up and pulled out in pieces. She went with the general...

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LAUGHING GAS = PURE AWESOMENESS

i'm pretty sure that's all you need to know. all i remember is giggling hysterically as i watched my pulse drop, then trying to stop laughing, then cracking up even more when the dentist told me i could. fun stuff.

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Fedfan,

You didn't get a general anesthetic? No way would I do that.

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Oh hell yeah I had novocaine+laughing gas. I didn't feel the laughing gas, but the novocaine made the whole experience super easy.

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1) You're going to die. It's our common destiny. But not from having your wisdom teeth out, unless your'e really unlucky.
2) AFAIK, weed and anesthetic go together fine. You could probably smoke DURING the procedure, if they would let you.
3) You will NOT have general anesthetic. That means being intubated and put on a ventilator. They are likely, if an IV is involved, going to give you versed, which makes you unable to form memories, so you won't remember the procedure. It's a wonderful drug, but.....
4) Nitrous oxide is more fun......

MM MD

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I had all 4 wisdom teeth taken out this summer. There was a fair amount of blood the first day, but nothing too serious. By day 3 or 4 I was fine. It's not a big deal at all.

One important thing: DON'T WASH/RINSE YOUR MOUTH OUT. On day 1 I decided to rinse my mouth out, and the holes started bleeding and didn't stop for like an hour.

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make sure you get the nitrus. that is some serious [censored]. inhale that as hard as you can. its like your leaving the world into darkness.

after you're out, ask for hydrocodone. if they give some kind of bs, like ibuprofen tell them you have intense stomache pains from it; get Oxycodone if possible.

good way to get meds, and then take them later for recreational use.

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I had mine out a year or so ago. The doctor came in and asked if I was ready to go. I said yes and they gave me a shot in the arm (it could have been an IV but I dont think so) then just stepped back and watched me fade away. They woke me up after and I was pretty stoned. I was high-fiving nurses and couldnt really walk so they wheeled me out to the car. The next few days were spent lying on the counch popping Lortabs. There was no pain at all, just be sure to keep your mouth clean.

I wish I could have that done about once a year.

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1) You're going to die. It's our common destiny. But not from having your wisdom teeth out, unless your'e really unlucky.
2) AFAIK, weed and anesthetic go together fine. You could probably smoke DURING the procedure, if they would let you.
3) You will NOT have general anesthetic. That means being intubated and put on a ventilator. They are likely, if an IV is involved, going to give you versed, which makes you unable to form memories, so you won't remember the procedure. It's a wonderful drug, but.....
4) Nitrous oxide is more fun......

MM MD

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I had the NO and the IV. I worked that day and my appointment was at 3pm or something. My boss was joking that they could do whatever they wanted to me while I was under and I'd have no idea. I thought this was pretty funny.

The doc hooked me up to the NO and put the IV in and made me put this rubber block in my mouth. He turned a dial on the IV and asked my how I felt. "Fine". He turned it again and asked how I felt now. "Fine". After two more turns of the dial he had this concerned look on his face. The next turn sent me into deep space. I woke up trying to spit out the gauze and the nurse made me stop and asked me how I felt. I looked down at my shoes and said "my shoes are still on, so I must be OK". I was referring to the conversation with my boss earlier but all she did was furrow her brow and ask if I was in any pain. I let her know in my loudest voice that this was nothing compared to my hemmorhoid operation--no pussywussy stitches on that one baby! My hole was coderized and I have never experienced anything that painful in my life. I would gladly break my collarbone again before going through that again. My wife was there to pick me up and was cracking up and trying without success to get me to stop talking. I was halfway home before the fog started to lift. Recovery was awesome. Could have done it on Advil, but Vicodin is so much more fun.

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u should tell them. smoking weed makes you more tolerant to the anesthesia(sp?) and the last thing you want is waking up in the middle of the operation. what are my credentials? i smoke weed. it happened to me and a few buddies. basically u could detox or they may need to give u a stronger dosage.

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weed days in advance is a complete non issue, be careful smoking after as suction can mess up the wounds.

for my operation they started me on nitrous and then gave me an iv of valium and demerol and told me to count from 100. Instead I just enjoyed the absolute most amazing feeling ever- except I was pretty sure I was dying but I was ok with it.

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u should tell them. smoking weed makes you more tolerant to the anesthesia(sp?) and the last thing you want is waking up in the middle of the operation. what are my credentials? i smoke weed. it happened to me and a few buddies. basically u could detox or they may need to give u a stronger dosage.

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FINALLY.

I just noticed this post...sorry it took so long for the truth to come out.

The person training to be an anesthesiologist is the most disheartening.

There is no direct action between THC and what is probably going to be Versed (midazolam) and maybe fentanyl (an opiod).

However, a chronic marijuana user, just like being an alcoholic or hooked on any anxiolytic or whatever, will make you less tolerant to any medical sedation.

Credentials: Im in my third year of dental school and just took my pharm exam on monday.

ALso, Please rinse GENTLY, do not spit, let it drip out. warmish salt water (not hot) or a rinse if they prescibe one.


-JP

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Oh yah, defintely dont smoke afterwards for a while b/c you will be very likely to get dry socket and thats a pain in the ass.

-JP

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Ive smoked basically every day for 4 years, and got mine out a few months back. The gas def knocked me the F out...I could not remember anything until about 4 hrs after they were taken out and I was awake that whole time.

I smoked a few pinchys later that night, and smoked regularly following days and did not get any dry sockets fwiw.

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u should tell them. smoking weed makes you more tolerant to the anesthesia(sp?) and the last thing you want is waking up in the middle of the operation. what are my credentials? i smoke weed. it happened to me and a few buddies. basically u could detox or they may need to give u a stronger dosage.

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FINALLY.

I just noticed this post...sorry it took so long for the truth to come out.

The person training to be an anesthesiologist is the most disheartening.

There is no direct action between THC and what is probably going to be Versed (midazolam) and maybe fentanyl (an opiod).

However, a chronic marijuana user, just like being an alcoholic or hooked on any anxiolytic or whatever, will make you less tolerant to any medical sedation.

Credentials: Im in my third year of dental school and just took my pharm exam on monday.

ALso, Please rinse GENTLY, do not spit, let it drip out. warmish salt water (not hot) or a rinse if they prescibe one.


-JP

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Im an idiot. I meant MORE tolerant.

-JP

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Ive smoked basically every day for 4 years, and got mine out a few months back. The gas def knocked me the F out...I could not remember anything until about 4 hrs after they were taken out and I was awake that whole time.

I smoked a few pinchys later that night, and smoked regularly following days and did not get any dry sockets fwiw.

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Nice anecdotal evidence contrary to the accepted literature. I am happy that you and many others im sure have had no problems. The risk of having a problem is what im warning the OP to avoid. If he wants to take that risk, and its not a small one, thats his business but he seemed a bit paranoid.

-JP

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Credentials: Im in my third year of dental school and just took my pharm exam on monday.

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Nice anecdotal evidence contrary to the accepted literature. I am happy that you and many others im sure have had no problems. The risk of having a problem is what im warning the OP to avoid. If he wants to take that risk, and its not a small one, thats his business but he seemed a bit paranoid.

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LOL, dude. Seriously. First of all, quote some literature if you're gonna get on that particular high horse. Second, even if THC does make you more tolerant to sedation, in a young healthy person you can just carefully give more sedative. Third, you guys are doing these with local blocks and conscious sedation, even if the guy "wakes up" (he's supposed to be awake, just sedated) he still has the local block, which the THC would have no effect on. Fourth, his question was about adverse drug interactions that might kill him if he didn't tell them about his weed smoking, which there aren't.

So while it's great that you took a test on something, you sound pretty silly. This is not the horror story of waking up in the middle of a big operation under general anesthesia paralyzed and intubated. This is conscious sedation to supplement a local block to yank out some teeth. Huge, huge difference.

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LOL, dude. Seriously. First of all, quote some literature if you're gonna get on that particular high horse. Second, even if THC does make you more tolerant to sedation, in a young healthy person you can just carefully give more sedative. Third, you guys are doing these with local blocks and conscious sedation, even if the guy "wakes up" (he's supposed to be awake, just sedated) he still has the local block, which the THC would have no effect on. Fourth, his question was about adverse drug interactions that might kill him if he didn't tell them about his weed smoking, which there aren't.

So while it's great that you took a test on something, you sound pretty silly. This is not the horror story of waking up in the middle of a big operation under general anesthesia paralyzed and intubated. This is conscious sedation to supplement a local block to yank out some teeth. Huge, huge difference.

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I will of course repeat my posts here for you to show you that I am not on some high horse, that I am not saying there is any horror story. The main points I made is that there IS a reason why they ask if you smoke marijuana and it DOES relate to the IV sedation and that you should NOT smoke after 3M extractions.

"FINALLY.

I just noticed this post...sorry it took so long for the truth to come out.

The person training to be an anesthesiologist is the most disheartening.

There is no direct action between THC and what is probably going to be Versed (midazolam) and maybe fentanyl (an opiod).

However, a chronic marijuana user, just like being an alcoholic or hooked on any anxiolytic or whatever, will make you less tolerant to any medical sedation.

Credentials: Im in my third year of dental school and just took my pharm exam on monday.

ALso, Please rinse GENTLY, do not spit, let it drip out. warmish salt water (not hot) or a rinse if they prescibe one.


-JP




Im an idiot. I meant MORE tolerant.

-JP

Nice anecdotal evidence contrary to the accepted literature. I am happy that you and many others im sure have had no problems. The risk of having a problem is what im warning the OP to avoid. If he wants to take that risk, and its not a small one, thats his business but he seemed a bit paranoid.

-JP "


As you can see, I just warned him against smoking, a legitimate claim that I will really back up w/ lit if you want but I think we all agree is unnec (I have to go take a final @ 10) and that being on any sedative chronically will make you more tolerant to any IV sedation.

The post in response to that guy smoking or whatever is perfectly nice, not threatening, and of course rational. I even congratulated him on his good fortune. Im just warning the op against taking the anecdotes of a few as the word of medicine.

in short, [censored] off.

-JP

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Oh yah, and the local block business. 3m extracions are done under local only but it is not recommended. Yes you should be numb even if the anesthesia wears off but it its not like youll be comfortable. The sounds/pressures/etc of the extractions can be traumatic. Also, the local is not perfect and w/ the patient sedated its sometimes difficult to tell for sure HOW numb they are.

That is not to say that when patients are under conscious sedation in a dental setting that we ever do not use local, that would put too much stress on the system as the brain still interprets the pain, just the patient forgets it.

-JP

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"The person training to be an anesthesiologist is the most disheartening?" You're gonna say that then cry when you get called out for it? You're gonna say "FINALLY... it took so long for the truth to come out" like the OP was in some unknown grave danger that you finally brought to light because you studied for a 3rd year pharm test? You're gonna say you were nice to another poster when you were sarcastic and condescending?

Good luck on your final. Maybe afterward you could have a beer and mellow out.

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I am having my teeth pulled on the 20th. Merry Xmas to me!

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"The person training to be an anesthesiologist is the most disheartening?" You're gonna say that then cry when you get called out for it? You're gonna say "FINALLY... it took so long for the truth to come out" like the OP was in some unknown grave danger that you finally brought to light because you studied for a 3rd year pharm test? You're gonna say you were nice to another poster when you were sarcastic and condescending?

Good luck on your final. Maybe afterward you could have a beer and mellow out.

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Didnt realize you were the anesthesiologist in training. No wonder your so offended. Yes I said "finally sorry it took so long for the truth to get out". I also affirmed your post. However, as I also said, it did leave out information as to what marijuana has to do w/ iv sedation. I felt it was disheartening and disingenuous for you to leave this out. Sorry you cant take criticism.

I have said all I have to say...this is a stupid argument and I feel sorry for having wasted yours and my time. If anyone has any dental related questions plz feel free to pm me.

-JP

ps. I am chill. I just finished my last final. I dont have a beer because I have a meeting with the dean later.

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LAUGHING GAS = PURE AWESOMENESS

i'm pretty sure that's all you need to know. all i remember is giggling hysterically as i watched my pulse drop, then trying to stop laughing, then cracking up even more when the dentist told me i could. fun stuff.

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Yes, I didnt go under, just the gas and and some novacaine, I had impacted teeth, so tehy had to get a hammer and chisel and bust everything out, I didnt feel a thing, and had some awesome Mario Bros hallucinations while I was getting them pulled. I kept cracking up, becuase I saw a picture of mario pulling my teeth out in my minds eye, it was great.

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Hmmm, I had my wisdom teeth removed about 12-13 years ago. My experience was considerably different than most.

There was no IV, nitrous or shots (other than novacaine) and I was completely awake through the entire procedure. They did recommend that I bring someone to drive me home afterwards so my wife volunteered. Nowadays, I figure it was because she could not pass up such an obvious opportunity to get in the last word.

The dentist was a 50+ year old hispanic fellow, small in stature, with an extremely thick accent (about every 5th word was indistinguishable). This did not prevent him from chit chatting the entire time, which I always find amusing when they have retractors and tools down your throat. Fortunately, my wife was doing most of the talking. That is, until she started to get nauseous.

A couple of the teeth didn't require much effort. A whack or two with the hammer and chisel. My tounge would immediately, almost reflexively visit the previous crown to check out the damage, then the pieces were extracted with pliers. It was rather disconcerting to watch as a stranger looming above, swings this mallet at your face, you hear the crack and your head jerks with the impact. Initially, I thought that it would not require much of a swing, probably just a tap, like you would use to put a nail in drywall, but it seemed far more like a swing you would use to drive a tenpenny nail into a couple of 2 x 4 's.

Anyway, one tooth, was not cooperating. It was very difficult to reach and well rooted. After adjusting the chair and finally getting the implement of destruction appropriately positioned he says something, which I did not quite understand. I probably responded with an "uh huh". He then placed his knee across my arm and on top of my chest to get some more leverage. I think it was then that the assistant had to get a chair for my wife.

The wierd thing is the whole experience seemed like a coyote/road runner cartoon. Probably because my brain said "this should hurt..... No, this should Really, Really hurt!" However, it could also be simply the vicodin that I chased with a couple of Corona's when I got home.

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I had the IV when I got mine pulled 3-4 years ago. I remember the surgeon talking to me about football and then waking up feeling groggy and drunkish in a different room with a Sports Illustrated in my lap.

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The same exact thing happened to me. There was also a hott girl sitting in the waiting room I was in before they called me into have the operation. My friend that drove me home said I kept asking him if they took me out the back or the front door and whether or not she saw me all drugged up.

Also in the drive through for White Castles (Shakes are good when you can't eat real food) I said something about crashing into the wall or something.

After that he took me home and made me lay down in the recliner that way I wouldn't slobber all over myself or something. I woke up many hours later with bloody/slobber soak pads in my mouth and my mouth was all full of blood. I just leaned over the armrest over the trash can and watch at least 6-8 ounces of blood drain from my mouth.

Other than that and getting the operation a few days before New Year's Eve everything was fine.

On a funny note the cable bill said I ordered three pay-per-view movies during the month and I was about to call in and complain because I knew I didn't. But I checked when the movies were ordered and aparently I woke up long enough while in the recliner to order some really bad movies.

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they just want to know if you do drugs/drink a lot because they have to vary the amount of anesthesia they give you according to how fast you will metabolize it.

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im getting my wisdom teeth taken out on thursday. the nurse lady said something about smoking weed, past 30 days, and the operation. i have definitely smoked numerous times in the past 30 days. i was wondering if weed would have a negative affect given (im guessing) the anaesthetics they would use during the operation. im not sure what type of anaesthetics they would be using, but she did say there would be an iv going into my hand and there would be a shot administered to my mouth. im getting 2 teeth taken out, one on the top right the other on the bottom right.

i dont want to die.

any ideas ?

p.s. im kind of nervous about the whole thing. feel free to share any stories regarding this operation if you've undergone it in the past.

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You are probably the first person in the entire world who had had this med with marijuana in your system. They KNOW you smoked and are using you as a guinea pig to find out what happens.

IF you live through this, please post a trip report.


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