OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

Well, in my first life help thread, you all told me to stay in school and finish. You fed me all this BS about getting a degree and yadda yadda yadda. I friggin quit and made a bunch of money. Yes, yes, I value all of your advice, and hope a lot of the people I respect/like on this forum decide to chime in to help out with part deuce of "HELP IWEARGOGGLES LIVE LIFE"

So here is my situation:

I'm 21, making money, living in Pittsburgh, PA. I want to move out, but I don't know where...or how...or with who. I feel like I have a crazy opportunity to make tons of money, but I barely play poker while in Pittsburgh. I sit around and play videogames/watch movies/maybe an hour of poker. It isn't healthy. My goal for 2007 is 500k. Will I do that living here? I doubt it.

So is it that easy to just leave? I live with 2 college kids in a semi-decent little apartment. I'm binded with the lease until August or whatever, but I think I could easily find someone to move in with these 2 studs should I decide to leave.

But yes, I do have friends and family. My grandmother is 76 years old and lives alone. I help out with taking care of her. My sister had a baby in July and he is flat-out precious. My mother also hates the thought of me leaving for even 2 weeks, but I guess they could all deal with it. I mean, I was taking my uncle to the airport today, and he was in the same situation. Struggling in Pittsburgh, wanted to leave, everyone got upset, he ended up happier. He obviously told me to get the hell out of Pittsburgh. I do have the money to move. That isn't a factor. I will be traveling a bunch in 2007 also, although I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

Basically, I want to move, but no idea where, with who, or how +EV it would be. I hope STTF is capable of allowing me to see all angles of such a big decision. Contrary to the previous life advice thread, I have NOT made any sort of solid decision, and I'm not really leaning to either side.

HELP ME!!!!

Lovingly yours,

IWEARGOGGLES

EDIT: I would be attempting to live with another poker player who is able to play >1 hour a day.

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

Yeah, get the hell out of PENNSYLVANIA. There is absolutely no opportunity in Pennsylvania and until the state government pulls their head out of their asses, it's going to stay that way.

If you're going to travel, then use that time as your "get-away" and enjoy it. Your family sounds like they are all close. How long have you ever been away from home? If you end up leaving for awhile, your parents/family will get over it and understand eventually.

You have to do what you feel is best for you.

Get ahold of Gobboboy and move out west.

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

move away..make lots of money..visit family frequently

go

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

some factors i would consider in this decision:

a) what places you would want to live in general (geographically)
b) what people you would want to live with (people that you enjoy, that you think you could live with, get along with, etc)
c) would both the location and people youd want to live with be beneficial to you with your poker/moneymaking goals (specifically, would someone that you may want to live with inhibit youre doing poker things, travelling, etc and as far as location, would living in that place make it harder to travel to tournaments and the like)


i feel like answering all of these questions and finding solid, accomodating answers will point you in the right direction. id also keep your family in the loop and stress that you do care and are here for them but you do need to do this for yourself and your job so its still important. good luck, keep us posted.

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I'm not all that concerned about opportunity in PA, as anywhere I go I just need a computer...

Well, most of my traveling is going to be written off as work anyways, as I'll have to file as a professional in 2007. I'm very close to my family and my mother cries when I leave for >1 week.

LOL gobboboy.

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some factors i would consider in this decision:

a) what places you would want to live in general (geographically)
b) what people you would want to live with (people that you enjoy, that you think you could live with, get along with, etc)
c) would both the location and people youd want to live with be beneficial to you with your poker/moneymaking goals (specifically, would someone that you may want to live with inhibit youre doing poker things, travelling, etc and as far as location, would living in that place make it harder to travel to tournaments and the like)


i feel like answering all of these questions and finding solid, accomodating answers will point you in the right direction. id also keep your family in the loop and stress that you do care and are here for them but you do need to do this for yourself and your job so its still important. good luck, keep us posted.

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A) Somewhere not freakishly cold.
B) Someone who is good at poker (IE I won't be coaching him for free) Not so sound like a dick, but I'd like to live with someone who would challenge me.
C) I'm hoping that whoever I live with doesn't suck at being social and would want to travel with me. I also wish she would have big ones, but I doubt that will happen.

Clear cut answer, right?

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I'm not all that concerned about opportunity in PA, as anywhere I go I just need a computer...

Well, most of my traveling is going to be written off as work anyways, as I'll have to file as a professional in 2007. I'm very close to my family and my mother cries when I leave for >1 week.

LOL gobboboy.

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I mean, opportunity, as in, things to do. Yeah you are in Pittsburgh with the Pirates/Steelers, but casinos? I heard they are going to build one near the Carnegie Science Center, but how good will it be? What else does PA have? Crappy weather, mountains, hills...

So I guess my next question is, what are you looking to do? If you only need a computer, why do you want to go anywhere?

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I graduated in June and have been looking for work. This sounds much more appealing. Yeah, I just met gobbo at TS the other day. We could make him do the cleaning and stuff.

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

Texas! That's prolly where'd I'd move...near the raptdurr and bona/duece/TF residences.

Yugoslav

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

Just a thought, but how far is Philadelphia to Pittsburg?

I know Phily is not far from Atlantic City for live poker play. Maybe close enough to home to visit family often, and can get flights out to travel pretty easy.

I don't personally know Philadelphia all that well, it just seems good geographically for everything.

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Just a thought, but how far is Philadelphia to Pittsburg?

I know Phily is not far from Atlantic City for live poker play. Maybe close enough to home to visit family often, and can get flights out to travel pretty easy.

I don't personally know Philadelphia all that well, it just seems good geographically for everything.

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Philly is a [censored] DUMP.

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

You can go anywhere and do anything with your time outside poker. Can you think of anything else you would enjoy doing? Just to live life... Go there, do that, play poker on the side. Move to vegas, get in lots of live tourneys, move to san diego just for the weather for a year. Try Chicago, or NYC, San Francisco.

Perhaps none of that is the motivation you are looking for. If you want to make tons of cash and work the big time poker grind then I do suggest living with someone with the same perspective unless you can self motivate.

GL with wherever, but you have to get out of PA. Pittsburgh isnt so bad , but....

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i can see I took way too long to post, and I am way behind the conversation now... nmm

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move away..make lots of money..visit family frequently

go

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Best advice so far lol.

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

If you want to be a real professional poker player, isn't it obvious you have to live in Las Vegas, Nevada? Move there, live alone to avoid too much distraction, and play poker. The downside is a 6-hour filght back to PA to visit the family, but if you make the amount of money you think you'll make, the cost of a trip every two weeks shouldn't be a problem.

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lol - well I said I didn't know it that well.

Memphis is a hub for a lot of travel, and Tunica is close, but then you would be living in Tennessee.

Obvious choice Las Vegas.

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If you want to be a real professional poker player, isn't it obvious you have to live in Las Vegas, Nevada? Move there, live alone to avoid too much distraction, and play poker. The downside is a 6-hour filght back to PA to visit the family, but if you make the amount of money you think you'll make, the cost of a trip every two weeks shouldn't be a problem.

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I obviously just got back from Vegas...and although I liked it, I'm not sure. I don't play live cash EVER and I think it would cost a lot more money than anywhere else.

Does anyone on here I know actually even live in Vegas? It just seems a bit over the top...

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If you want to be a real professional poker player, isn't it obvious you have to live in Las Vegas, Nevada? Move there, live alone to avoid too much distraction, and play poker. The downside is a 6-hour filght back to PA to visit the family, but if you make the amount of money you think you'll make, the cost of a trip every two weeks shouldn't be a problem.

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I obviously just got back from Vegas...and although I liked it, I'm not sure. I don't play live cash EVER and I think it would cost a lot more money than anywhere else.

Does anyone on here I know actually even live in Vegas? It just seems a bit over the top...

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Ummm....

It's good to know that retarded people can make a living playing poker, too. Maybe freemoney was right.

Irieguy

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

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If you want to be a real professional poker player, isn't it obvious you have to live in Las Vegas, Nevada? Move there, live alone to avoid too much distraction, and play poker. The downside is a 6-hour filght back to PA to visit the family, but if you make the amount of money you think you'll make, the cost of a trip every two weeks shouldn't be a problem.

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I obviously just got back from Vegas...and although I liked it, I'm not sure. I don't play live cash EVER and I think it would cost a lot more money than anywhere else.

Does anyone on here I know actually even live in Vegas? It just seems a bit over the top...

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Ummm....

It's good to know that retarded people can make a living playing poker, too. Maybe freemoney was right.

Irieguy

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Leave me alone. I'm just a stupid, naive kid. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

hey googles,
come to Brazil, enjoy the sun and cut your monthly nut by more than half. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

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hey googles,
come to Brazil, enjoy the sun and cut your monthly nut by more than half. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Flying to Pittsburgh would only cost a billion dollars.

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

Belize: All income derived from outside the country is tax free. You might need a puddle jumper to get in and out of the country though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] The only problem is getting the capital out of the country.

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Goggles:

I'm submitting a vote for staying put. This is from an old person who lost both grandmothers in 2006.

Family sounds quite important to you, and it sounds like your grandmother depends on you. I suggest you work on your motivation and concentration and spend time with your grandmother, mom, and nephew while you can. The distractions you mention (video games, movies, etc.) will be present wherever you decide to move. The only thing helping your motivation will be a roomate who is living the same lifestyle as you.

Have you tried setting a more formal schedule for playing and earning that is better suited to the goals you're establishing?

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

One Word = <font color="blue">THUG MANSION </font> [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

Hey,
i`m prolly a bit younger than you (19), but i had a similar situation. I finished high school in germany in July 06 (~2years of college) and just wanted so see something new. I love to travel and because i have a dual citizenship (american,german) i said to myself: Go to Big Apple!
So thats what i did and i really enjoy it here. There is so much to see and its never boring here.
NYC is not the only city i could recommend you, but its worth a thought, since your familiy is not to far away and a weekend visit etc isn`t that big trip (in comparison to other places).

As i moved i could have had a problem with jobs. Since its hard to earn a living out of my semi-pro-hobbies (chess and piano), some chess-friends introduced me to poker a few months ago (but they dont play it)...Now i have a job:)...

hopefully a 20year old could give you some ideas:)...Since it seems like money isn`t the thing you are worrying about,(if i were you) i would just visit NYC and/or other cities for a weekend or two and look how life is there...

Personally I planned to stay for a year in NYC and see how far i can make it in poker. After that year i`ll have a decision to make:)...

Do you have anybody in your family or friends, who know a bit about poker?
I for example don`t have anybody to talk about poker, since i am the only one of my friends who does it. (Nobody to listen to bad beat stories *lol*). I think its a big advantage to have friends who play poker...

Whatever you decide to do...gl and tell us

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

If you are going to establish residency, consider a state with no state taxes.

Cali is very cool.

There are at least a few places that have more than just a couple people you know and like (Toronto, Texas, Cali....?). You should visit each and then decide.

Whether you want to stay with your family vs. just visiting when you can is too personal for anyone else to answer.

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

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hey googles,
come to Brazil, enjoy the sun and cut your monthly nut by more than half. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Flying to Pittsburgh would only cost a billion dollars.

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It is like $600-700, but you'd save much more than that on your living expenses here. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

Moving isn't going to get you to stop playing video games. Throw your TV/XBOX/whatever in the garbage. Seriously.

As for the family situation, there are plenty of close families who don't live together. You have to make the decision for you, not them.

As for where to move, if you're on the way to 500K next year, I'd avoid taxes as much as possible.

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Goggles:

I'm submitting a vote for staying put. This is from an old person who lost both grandmothers in 2006.

Family sounds quite important to you, and it sounds like your grandmother depends on you. I suggest you work on your motivation and concentration and spend time with your grandmother, mom, and nephew while you can. The distractions you mention (video games, movies, etc.) will be present wherever you decide to move. The only thing helping your motivation will be a roomate who is living the same lifestyle as you.

Have you tried setting a more formal schedule for playing and earning that is better suited to the goals you're establishing?

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There is no helping my awful work schedule. Two hours ago I told myself I was going to play a session. I'm still sitting here.

Yes, family is important, but half the reason I play poker is to hopefully force my parents into some sort of cool retirement...and I don't think I can do that from Pittsburgh.

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hey googles,
come to Brazil, enjoy the sun and cut your monthly nut by more than half. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Flying to Pittsburgh would only cost a billion dollars.

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It is like $600-700, but you'd save much more than that on your living expenses here. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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My brother has to make the flight from Brazil to LA for work sometimes. I think it takes him 343 hours.

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If you are going to establish residency, consider a state with no state taxes.

Cali is very cool.

There are at least a few places that have more than just a couple people you know and like (Toronto, Texas, Cali....?). You should visit each and then decide.

Whether you want to stay with your family vs. just visiting when you can is too personal for anyone else to answer.

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Thanks for reminding me about no state taxes. I'm fairly sure Florida also doesn't have state taxes.

Yeah, I guess I just need to visit some people and hang out.

*books flight to Texas*

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I also wish she would have big ones, but I doubt that will happen.



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That made me laugh.

If I were you, I'd try and think about this by pretending I HAD to move. Pretend you don't have any friends or family in Pittsburgh and that the mayor just told you to [censored] off or you'd go to jail. Think of where you would move if you had to. Also think about who you would want to live with, if they'd want to live with you, and if your ideal location would be feasible for the two, three, whatever of you. When I say think about this, I mean really think about it. Pretend you are actually moving and research accordingly.

THEN, once you've come up with this scenario compare it against your current situation taking into account the things that are obviously very important to you, namely, your family. Consider both situations from every perspective and make the tough decision that only you can make of which one is better for you. Realize that how your family will react to your decision will be fully accounted for when asking yourself how YOU feel, because you obviously are taking their feelings into account.

That's how I would approach it anyways.

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

I'm sort of in the same situation as you, although I doubt I make as much money as you. I can really sympathize with really reducing your earn because you don't play enough. I started playing poker in March (literally didn't even know what hands beat what prior to that) and was really learning fast and was playing a ton. Eventually I had an absolutely horrific month in October where I ran exceptionally poorly and tilted as well and since then even though I've been doing better if I have a good session I tend to cut it short since I'm afraid I'll lose my profit for the day. Obviously if I'm playing well this is tremendously -EV.

I suppose I just need to man up and tell start playing more, although I'd love to get up the balls to do something like move to Brasil for a while. Hey, I even speak some Portuguese.

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I also wish she would have big ones, but I doubt that will happen.



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That made me laugh.

If I were you, I'd try and think about this by pretending I HAD to move. Pretend you don't have any friends or family in Pittsburgh and that the mayor just told you to [censored] off or you'd go to jail. Think of where you would move if you had to. Also think about who you would want to live with, if they'd want to live with you, and if your ideal location would be feasible for the two, three, whatever of you. When I say think about this, I mean really think about it. Pretend you are actually moving and research accordingly.

THEN, once you've come up with this scenario compare it against your current situation taking into account the things that are obviously very important to you, namely, your family. Consider both situations from every perspective and make the tough decision that only you can make of which one is better for you. Realize that how your family will react to your decision will be fully accounted for when asking yourself how YOU feel, because you obviously are taking their feelings into account.

That's how I would approach it anyways.

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BigT,

I would attempt to live anywhere. I've done everything in Pittsburgh and I THINK I'm ready to leave. I don't have like a BFF I'm leaving or anything. Sure, I'd miss my friends, but if I'm having fun traveling, making money, all that stuff, I think I could put it in the background.

Anyways, I'm headed to Texas for a few days to try and figure stuff out. Wish the Goggles luck.

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

Start looking for good opportunities to move somewhere--someone you know needs a roommate, someone you are good friends with LOVES it where they are etc. But don't force it if nothing jumps out at you. Since it sounds like you are still on the fence, maybe let another Pittsburgh winter sweeten the pot. That way when you do move, you won't be sitting somewhere lonely, uprooted, wondering if you made the right call.

Moving can be tough. After that initial honeymoon with your new place, the first year or so can be kind of hard to take. Or it can go really well if you make good friends or have some already there. When I finally left KC for good, I was 100% sure I didn't want to go back to live. If I had been 50/50 I might not have made it.

Also it sounds like you are more family oriented than most your age. Have you considered just staying put and travelling to some live MTTs/vacations etc.? This would burn off some of that BR and might motivate you to play more.

And finally, no matter where you move, you're still going to have to tackle this lack of desire to play issue head on. It's not going to stay behind in PA. Trust me from experience, issues never stay behind.

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

The lack of desire issue is only an issue because I don't hang out with poker players. It is a proven fact I can grind while around other players.

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You talk about being social but you think Vegas is meh? Vegas is one of the most common cities I see players from at Stars since you're looking to hang around poker players.

There have been OOT threads where someone wants to move to Vegas with a roomate and they have gotten offers.

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goggles,

Glad you read my winning answer in this thread. Just remember that when durrr and raptor invite you for "afterhour" sessions at their house, they aren't talking about poker, [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img].

holla

Yugoslav

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goggles,

Glad you read my winning answer in this thread. Just remember that when durrr and raptor invite you for "afterhour" sessions at their house, they aren't talking about poker, [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img].

holla

Yugoslav

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It must be something in the water.

HEEEEEHAWWWWW

Re: OT: Goggles needs life help, part deuce.
 

ok, first, a huge f'k you for making me type all this crap when i saw you like yesterday. everyone knows to ask me on life stuff, and everyone knows i hate to type. i'm also a friendly drunk.

ok, where you live has nothing to do with anything here. self motivation is the issue. nomatter where you live, you still have to be the one to motivate yourself. no roommate is gonna do that for you.

your basicaly saying you need a boss to tell you to work for you to be productive. I've been self-employed for years, and have known many, many self employed people with the same problem. They either fix it, or they fail and they go work for someone.

so, what to do. set goals. start with no less than 4 hours a day, 5 days a week, and stick to it. get into the habit of working everyday. then make it 30 hours a week, and hit that goal. weekly is better, cause it's more flexible, so after your used to working each day, do weekly.

DONT make short term money goals! the goal is hours /week or month, not $$$/week.

pick some people to send your "timesheet" to each week that will give you [censored] if you miss you goals. pick people outside of poker that make $10 or less an hour at a hard job. they wanna give you [censored] anyway, so those are the same people you will try to avoid giving them a reason.

moving and changing you suroundings can't hurt, but if you don't work on the real problem at the same time, it won't help either.

Steve