QQ for 3 bets
 

Commerce 20/40, pretty tough game. This table was looser than a tight table, but tighter than a loose table. Let's call it semi-loose and aggressive.

I've also been caught raising light a couple times [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

I get Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the UTG+1, and I make it two. Solid player in hijack makes it three. A tight BB comes along, I don't cap.

Flop is K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], rainbow, I made up the suits but it don't matter.

Checked, I bet, late position raises, BB calls, I 3-bet, call and call.

Turn is K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I bet, late position raises, BB folds. I grit my teeth and call.

River is A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I check and call (?).

Felt like a spew to me. I swear, my first thought on the flop was check and fold - my second instinct was, 'you pansy, get some bets out there'.

Re: QQ for 3 bets
 

That's a bad flop for QQ to win unimproved behind a normal 3-betting range and a tight player's range for coldcalling 2 from the BB (AK/JJ/TT/99)

Re: QQ for 3 bets
 

I would not 3-bet the flop or bet the turn,but I'm more of a nit than most of these 2+2'ers.

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I don't understand the flop play. The K hits most of the range of hands you were ahead of PF. Your OESD is tainted by the odds you're chopping some of the time and other times your straight outs are in the hands of your opponents. Bet/3-bet is spewy. I'm check-calling to the river and c/f if I don't improve there.

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"I'm check-calling to the river and c/f if I don't improve there. "

im with joker...ugh, your play is mightly spewy...and why didn't you cap preflop?

Re: QQ for 3 bets
 

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I swear, my first thought on the flop was check and fold - my second instinct was, 'you pansy, get some bets out there'.

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You wavered between the two extremes, but there is a middle ground. Check and call.

Re: QQ for 3 bets
 

If I misclick didn't cap preflop I'd c/c, c/c and then think about the river and bet/call like a fish, I think c/c might be better here.

Re: QQ for 3 bets
 

why did you bet the flop?

Re: QQ for 3 bets
 

cap pf, c/c flop.

As played, i will c/f river. after flop action, he still raise turn. That means he can beat trip k. he is solid play and 3bet pf from HJ. what does he have after flop/turn action, he has jj/tt/ak.

Re: QQ for 3 bets
 

I don't mind the flop bet as much as the flop re-raise or the turn bet,although I think the check-call is better.

IMO,privatejoker's advice is right on,as usual.

Re: QQ for 3 bets
 

I don't like the way you played any street here.

Preflop, I think this is a definite cap if you have a loose image. You know you're ahead of BB, and you're probably of hijack over half the time.

On the flop, the lead seems ridonkulous. Hijack's almost never going to check behind here, so it's either a C/C if you think you're behind or a C/R if you think you're ahead. You're hand's certainly not strong enough for a three-bet here as you're way behind an average raising range.

On the turn, with three people in the pot, and a possible raising card, you really want to be seeing the river as cheaply as possible. I guess if you're going to 3-bet the flop, the turn probably helped you if anything, but therein lies the problem. You shouldn't have bet/3-bet the flop. Your hand wasn't strong enough.

Now, you've got 0 clean outs when you get raised, but the pot's big enough that it's tough to say it's just a fold either. I really can't say what I'd do in that spot. I have a hunch that the part that says call is just your mind justifying the prior action though, and that this should probably be a fold.