2p2er caught on vid #3
 

Villain in this hand is an unknown, and I'm hero. whats best here? lead (and try for b3b)? c/c? c/r?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $267.55
UTG+1: $195
CO: $200
Button: $63.80
SB: $204.30
Hero: $279

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $9</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($27, 3 players)

Re: 2p2er caught on vid #3
 

i like to get a little creative when stacks are this size. I prob b-c - c/r AI, hit or miss.

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I would go for b3b.

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if villain doesn't know me, im very tempted to check/call - check/raise bc it makes everyone [censored] their pants even though i mostly only take this line with draws.

i dont like b3b, any hand that raises us is snap calling a push.

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if villain doesn't know me, im very tempted to check/call - check/raise bc it makes everyone [censored] their pants even though i mostly only take this line with draws.

i dont like b3b, any hand that raises us is snap calling a push.

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I like to take this line on paired boards with a 9-Q on them [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

scary [censored].

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Any reads on villian? I like to c/r here a good portion of the time and decide if I want to follow threw If I whiff turn. c/c and lead any turn is a weird line I might take here depending on the villian

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if villain doesn't know me, im very tempted to check/call - check/raise bc it makes everyone [censored] their pants even though i mostly only take this line with draws.

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also the good thing about this line is that if he checks behind on the turn you get a free card AND you might even have the best hand. i think this is an important effect of good check/raise lines - you go from a 'value check' to a semibluff on the same street.

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if villain doesn't know me, im very tempted to check/call - check/raise bc it makes everyone [censored] their pants even though i mostly only take this line with draws.

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also the good thing about this line is that if he checks behind on the turn you get a free card AND you might even have the best hand. i think this is an important effect of good check/raise lines - you go from a 'value check' to a semibluff on the same street.

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lol @ quoting yourself

Re: 2p2er caught on vid #3
 

... i had more to say on the subject.

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the ONLY way our ace is good if it all gets in on the flop is if the villain has KK. so I don't like lead 3-bet.

I would check-call. check-fold.

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I like c/r or b/c and lead the turn vs unknowns. I think b3bing an unknown in this spot is probably my least favorite line.

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Any reads on villian? I like to c/r here a good portion of the time and decide if I want to follow threw If I whiff turn.

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Not enough money in the stacks for this. I think c/r gets you all or nothing.....

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c/r flop. or c/c.

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I have a line that I love in these situations. I weak lead the flop (that way he will raise with hands that missed as well as his strong hands) when he raises I shove the lot in. So I would lead $14-$16 but hoping to get the lot in.

By making a normal sized bet in you only get raised by hands that have decent equity against you and are more likely to feel pot committed as their raise will be a decent portion of their stack. I want the weak hands to raise too that cannot call my shove profitably.

If he just calls the weak lead then I lean towards potting any turn but this is more read dependant.

Results
 

I C/R, we got AI, he had AQ and I didn't hit.

tbh, I rly don't like my line here, as i'm drawing to 9 outs too often i think. But, I'm still not sure what the best line is

Re: Results
 

donk lead flop. ftw

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I C/R, we got AI, he had AQ and I didn't hit.

tbh, I rly don't like my line here, as i'm drawing to 9 outs too often i think. But, I'm still not sure what the best line is

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This was just not the best of spots. AQ was the only one pair hand that you equity is not so great against. A ton of time he will fold or at least your ace outs will also be good. I still prefer bet 3 bet though as you would be more likley to play a set that way and I prefer to play my big draws and sets the same.

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I have a line that I love in these situations. I weak lead the flop (that way he will raise with hands that missed as well as his strong hands) when he raises I shove the lot in. So I would lead $14-$16 but hoping to get the lot in.

By making a normal sized bet in you only get raised by hands that have decent equity against you and are more likely to feel pot committed as their raise will be a decent portion of their stack. I want the weak hands to raise too that cannot call my shove profitably.

If he just calls the weak lead then I lean towards potting any turn but this is more read dependant.

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I think this is actually a really damn good play.

Thanks for posting it!