Are you prejudiced against fat people?
 

I am.

How about you? What other prejudices do you have?

FYI, reasonable definitions (from answers.com and m-w.com):

--An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.

--The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments, opinions, or convictions.

--an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics

Re: Are you prejudiced against fat people?
 

Yes... I won't sleep with them...

i'm also prejudice against Male-red-heads... i automatically think they are pusssssy's

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https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/

Take that test...it will tell you.

I won't disclose my results.

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That's pretty stupid of you.

Anyway, I've never really thought of it, but I'm sure I treat fatties less welcoming than normal, slightly-fat Americans. Fat people just seem like they hate life, and are always complaining. Plus, they walk really slow, which bugs me. I can't stand walking with slow f***ers, who breath loudly. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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only really fat people.

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Yes I am.

I dont want to sit by them on a plane or at the movie theatre. I find them unhealthy and sometimes lazy.

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meh, there are fat people and then there are slobs. Slobs suck

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Everyone makes judgments whether they admit it or not.

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"--The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments, opinions, or convictions."

Under that definition I don't think I am. I think that fat people are generally lazier than non-fat people, but I don't think that is an unreasonable judgment because I always keep in the back of my mind the possibility that they are fat because of circumstances out of their control (ie bad genetics, diabetes, injury, etc.) or that they just don't care about being fat.

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my prejudices include dislike for the fat, the old when they drive, all childern, and the rich.

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Yes I am.

I dont want to sit by them on a plane or at the movie theatre. I find them unhealthy and sometimes lazy.

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That's not necessarily prejudice. There is nothing irrational about not wanting to be uncomfortable at a theater or in a plane cause the guy next to you is taki ng up to much room.

Along the same lines, being fat is unhealthy and a fat person is probably more likely to be lazy than a non-fat person. As long as you don't assume that ALL fat people are lazy, I don't think you are prejudiced.

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Diablo,

In what way are you prejudice against fat people. Is it like you automatically assume they are loud, obnoxious, lazy, and slobbish? Or just that they dont have a lot of self control when it comes to food, they dont exercise enough, and they are unhealthy?

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I definitely make judgments before I have proof that they're true. Although I can't think of a particularly adverse one, I'm positive some are (I don't assume someone's a bad person or mean or anything like that, more likely that they're lazy and don't take care of themselves).

Other prejudices, who knows. I think a lot of it has to do (obviously) with what you're exposed to.

From the definitions, I definitely never have a hostile attitude toward one group/race/whatever. I suppose if you qualified something like "Boston Red Sox" fans as a group then I might, but I assume that's not what we're talking about.

I think a good example for me would be that if I see someone dressed in freak/goth clothing I assume they're weird or depressed. Is that unreasonable? Probably. I don't really know anyone that's in that crowd so I have no first hand experience.

I think in general I'm less prone to those kinds of judgments because there's such a mix of people in NYC that there's rarely one overriding characteristic of any group that makes you stray far from the norm.

Re: Are you prejudiced against fat people?
 

Fatness is a good indication that a person is lazy and lacks willpower.

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No. If the fat person doesn't feel accountable for their own fatness, feels entitled to special treatment due to their fatness, or feels excessively sorry for themselves because of their fatness, I develop a strongly adverse reaction. But I think those feelings have rational roots.

Someone who is just fat I don't harbor any ill feelings towards. They don't value their health and fitness. I lot of people don't share my values either. No biggie.

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Yes... I won't sleep with them...

i'm also prejudice against Male-red-heads... i automatically think they are pusssssy's

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im prejudiced against people who dont know the difference between plural and apostrophes. i am serious to some extent.

also i do find that i am prejudiced against overweight people. not really proud of that but i am somewhat

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Yes I am.

I dont want to sit by them on a plane or at the movie theatre. I find them unhealthy and sometimes lazy.

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That's not necessarily prejudice. There is nothing irrational about not wanting to be uncomfortable at a theater or in a plane cause the guy next to you is taki ng up to much room.

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What if I hate them for it?

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i am prejudiced against them in certain contexts. for instance, restaurants, anywhere there is group seating, etc.

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yes they are gross

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Yes I am.

I dont want to sit by them on a plane or at the movie theatre. I find them unhealthy and sometimes lazy.

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That's not necessarily prejudice. There is nothing irrational about not wanting to be uncomfortable at a theater or in a plane cause the guy next to you is taki ng up to much room.

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What if I hate them for it?

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I guess it depends how strong your hate is. I think it's reasonable to dislike someone because they make you uncomfortable without good cause.

Though intense hatred might be considered a little irrational.

Re: Are you prejudiced against fat people?
 

good,

"that they just don't care about being fat."

See, even though it doesn't really hurt me in any way, I can't help but feel a negative bias towards people like this.

Re: Are you prejudiced against fat people?
 

I'm prejudiced against male genitalia.

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Alobar,

Somewhere in the middle of your two sets of characteristics.

Re: Are you prejudiced against fat people?
 

No. I hate Did's for other reasons.

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https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/

Take that test...it will tell you.

I won't disclose my results.

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"Your Result
Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for Thin People compared to Fat People."

I have a pretty strong distaste for fat women. Fat guys can bother me too when they start doing fat guy things like eating really loud, farting, smacking their lips, or walking around without their shirt on.

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I hold pretty much all the prejudices, but I am quick to change my opinion if the facts change.

Actually, by those definitions, I don't think any view I hold is irrational or unreasonable, so maybe they aren't prejudices at all.

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good,

"that they just don't care about being fat."

See, even though it doesn't really hurt me in any way, I can't help but feel a negative bias towards people like this.

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Negative in what way?

I don't think its irrational to dislike someone for disregarding their health, as long as that dislike is not too intense. It's simply you making a having a preference against what you see as their lack of character. Their would be nothing irrational about disliking someone who is mean, right?

However, it is irrational and prejudicial to jump to conclusions about the fat people that do not follow from deductive reasoning.

Is anyone seeing the distinctions I am trying to draw?

Dislike =/= prejudice, unless the dislike is based on some irrational conclusion. (example: Disliking pedophiles is rational and not prejudice. Disliking all black people because you think all black people are lazy is prejudice)

Making irrational assumptions = prejudice

Re: Are you prejudiced against fat people?
 

I am prejudiced against people who:

- Live in Manhattan

- Drive a Jetta

- Smoke

- Majored in marketing

...probably 50 other things I can't think of at the moment.

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How fat are we talking here? Soft, or obese?

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I am fat and even I am prejudiced against fat people... I need to get less fat.

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good and others,

"Negative in what way?"

I think my reaction could be accurately described as something like "ugh, what is wrong w/ you, how can you be like that?"

As I said, that's just a negative bias I hold. If they turn out to be good, smart, nice people, I have no problem being their friend or whatever. I just start out by default feeling somewhat negative towards them until I have information to make me feel otherwise.

More specifically, let's take this example. I have two resumes that look similar in terms of backgrounds, experience, etc. I walk into the room where they are waiting and I find:

a black guy and a white guy - I won't hold a preference towards either

a short guy and a tall guy - Again, no preference

a fat guy and an in shape guy - Not having anything to do with health insurance costs or sick days or any specific things having to do with health, I will have an innate bias against the fat guy in a sort of "I'd prefer having the other guy around than the fat guy" way.

This of course assumes that neither of the resumes has an obviously Jewish last name.

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I am for sure. Same with smoking.

I've noted to myself in the past that I don't see a lot of either type of person at my current place of employment, and wondered if that correlates to intellegence in some way. Pretty horrible thing to think, eh?

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I am for sure. Same with smoking.

I've noted to myself in the past that I don't see a lot of either type of person at my current place of employment, and wondered if that correlates to intellegence in some way. Pretty horrible thing to think, eh?

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I bet both obesity and smoking correlate pretty well with social class, and that probably correlates well with education, so . . . .

(EDIT: Running that chain backwards makes more logical sense.)

Re: Are you prejudiced against fat people?
 

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https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/

Take that test...it will tell you.

I won't disclose my results.

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Wasn't this in the book "Blink"... I think he proved that EVERYONE is prejudice.

Re: Are you prejudiced against fat people?
 

El D,

So what's your play if the skinny guy is Joel Rosenberg and the fat guy is Fred Smith?

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I am fat and even I am prejudiced against fat people... I need to get less fat.

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Same.

I know how my body feels, and it sucks, and it's my body telling myself to do something about it.

Right now I'm being good about working out and eating, so it's a more productive "you're getting the same messages as I am, why can't you man up and [censored] do it" view and when I'm not it's more motivated by self loathing.

I'm also more annoyed by fat people who just dress like slops or wear too tight clothing, or the super morbidly obese because it's just like "wow dude, you've really checked out of life"

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I'm also more annoyed by fat people who just dress like slops or wear too tight clothing, or the super morbidly obese because it's just like "wow dude, you've really checked out of life"

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Yeah - a sloppy fat dude is way worse than a relatively put together fat dude. Whereas a fit sloppy dude is not much worse than a fit put together dude.

-Al

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I am fat and even I am prejudiced against fat people... I need to get less fat.

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El D,

Do you have any family memebers that are obese and how do you feel about them?

I have a couple family members that are strangely obese compared to the rest of our family which is pretty healthy for the most part. I find that I tend to be more distant towards my obese family members and less likely to "try" to relate to them than my other family members. It isn't that I love them any less and when I look at it from the family's POV they are probably looked down upon the most in our family as well. I feel bad that it is this way but it is only natural to be turned off by years and years of sedantary lifestyle (for them) and no will to ever make a change.

~td

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ore specifically, let's take this example. I have two resumes that look similar in terms of backgrounds, experience, etc. I walk into the room where they are waiting and I find:

a black guy and a white guy - I won't hold a preference towards either

a short guy and a tall guy - Again, no preference

a fat guy and an in shape guy - Not having anything to do with health insurance costs or sick days or any specific things having to do with health, I will have an innate bias against the fat guy in a sort of "I'd prefer having the other guy around than the fat guy" way.

This of course assumes that neither of the resumes has an obviously Jewish last name.

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You are concerned with health care costs and sick days, yet aren't predjudiced towards blacks?