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its time for the official thread.
i guarantee the seattle seahawks win superbowl XL. im never wrong.

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Kiss of death

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I think you should be banned from the Sports Forum if Seattle loses.

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I think you should be banned from the Sports Forum if Seattle loses.

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doesnt matter, the seahawks arent going to lose.

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seattle by 4-6

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If you put some money on it and give me 5:1 odds on Pittsburgh, I'll bet any amount with you. Think about it, a mortal lock vs 1:5 odds!!! That's free money I'm offering you!!!

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Uh oh this is big time. I have been wrong for every superbowl since I was in 8th grade. I am going for the steelers. One our streaks with end.

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Uh oh this is big time. I have been wrong for every superbowl since I was in 8th grade. I am going for the steelers. One our streaks with end.

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umm, after the seahawks win, both our streaks are still intact, no?

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Seattle by >10. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Uh oh this is big time. I have been wrong for every superbowl since I was in 8th grade. I am going for the steelers. One our streaks with end.

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umm, after the seahawks win, both our streaks are still intact, no?

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That would pretty solidly break your streak.

While on the subject of streaks, I grew up a 49er fan (mom's from that area) and have gotten sucked into the Steelers since moving here for grad school 3 years ago. I've got a 5-0 record when cheering for one team in the big game. My record isn't quite as stellar in the conference championships, however.

I'm going to predict Seattle 14 - 24 Pittsburgh. Your Super Bowl MVP - Jerome Bettis (though Roethlisberger will probably deserve it).

Here are what I think(hope?) will be the keys to the game:
1. coaching - Holmgren is good, but Cowher et al have clearly outcoached their opponents in all three games, in particular the last two.
2. Pittsburgh's ability to run - we haven't been able to run in the playoffs, this actually started dropping off after the Chicago game. Not sure what's going on, hopefully it will come back for the SB. The Steelers have shown that they can win without it but if they get the running game going and have the strong passing game of late it will be very difficult for Seattle to stop them.
3. Seattle's ability to run. Pittsburgh's only had 1 100 yard rusher against them all season. From what I've seen, Hasselbeck reminds me of Roethlisberger last season (albeit with less hair), solid quarterback doesn't make too many mistakes but not really the guy whose shoulders you want to put everything on. Alexander has had a great season so it should be a good matchup.
4. Seattle handling the blitz. Pittsburgh destroyed Indy with it and it was successful against Denver as well. If Seattle can't handle it, especially if their runnning game isn't working well, it will be very difficult to score.

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Uh oh this is big time. I have been wrong for every superbowl since I was in 8th grade. I am going for the steelers. One our streaks with end.

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umm, after the seahawks win, both our streaks are still intact, no?

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That would pretty solidly break your streak.

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i guess im retarted, how does seattle winning break either streak?

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Uh oh this is big time. I have been wrong for every superbowl since I was in 8th grade. I am going for the steelers. One our streaks with end.

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umm, after the seahawks win, both our streaks are still intact, no?

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That would pretty solidly break your streak.

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i guess im retarted, how does seattle winning break either streak?

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Not sure if you're serious but in case you are, I think we're referring (at least I am) to the "How many points will Denver win by" poll and subsequent loss by the Broncos. Seattle winning would make your guarantee be fulfilled and thus your streak would be broken.

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Uh oh this is big time. I have been wrong for every superbowl since I was in 8th grade. I am going for the steelers. One our streaks with end.

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umm, after the seahawks win, both our streaks are still intact, no?

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That would pretty solidly break your streak.

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i guess im retarted, how does seattle winning break either streak?

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Not sure if you're serious but in case you are, I think we're referring (at least I am) to the "How many points will Denver win by" poll and subsequent loss by the Broncos. Seattle winning would make your guarantee be fulfilled and thus your streak would be broken.

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oh,that. i didnt count that. that was only a practice poll. im never wrong. this poll is for real.

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Uh oh this is big time. I have been wrong for every superbowl since I was in 8th grade. I am going for the steelers. One our streaks with end.

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umm, after the seahawks win, both our streaks are still intact, no?

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That would pretty solidly break your streak.

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i guess im retarted, how does seattle winning break either streak?

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Not sure if you're serious but in case you are, I think we're referring (at least I am) to the "How many points will Denver win by" poll and subsequent loss by the Broncos. Seattle winning would make your guarantee be fulfilled and thus your streak would be broken.

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Why would a man predicting the future worry himself with the past?

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2. Pittsburgh's ability to run - we haven't been able to run in the playoffs, this actually started dropping off after the Chicago game. Not sure what's going on, hopefully it will come back for the SB. The Steelers have shown that they can win without it but if they get the running game going and have the strong passing game of late it will be very difficult for Seattle to stop them.

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Sorry, the Seahawks have the best front 7 in all of football.

This is going to be a very close game, and it'll probably be soemthing like 28-24, or 35-31.

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Sorry, the Seahawks have the best front 7 in all of football.

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They can be one of the best front 7, but they are very undersized. Where was Indy's front 7? Same type deal... great speed but undersized.

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Sorry, the Seahawks have the best front 7 in all of football.

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They can be one of the best front 7, but they are very undersized. Where was Indy's front 7? Same type deal... great speed but undersized.

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Indy's problem was Manning audibling til 1 second every play making it too easy for Polamalu et al to get a great jump on the snap.

Also to the original op, pretty clearly SEA by 10.

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Sorry, the Seahawks have the best front 7 in all of football.

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They can be one of the best front 7, but they are very undersized. Where was Indy's front 7? Same type deal... great speed but undersized.

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Indy's problem was Manning audibling til 1 second every play making it too easy for Polamalu et al to get a great jump on the snap.

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We're talking defense here big guy.

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this is the first and only

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No, there were two created after the championship games ended.

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Sorry, the Seahawks have the best front 7 in all of football.

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They can be one of the best front 7, but they are very undersized. Where was Indy's front 7? Same type deal... great speed but undersized.

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Indy's problem was Manning audibling til 1 second every play making it too easy for Polamalu et al to get a great jump on the snap.

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We're talking defense here big guy.

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No, there were two created after the championship games ended.

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youll have to show me if you want me to be a believer

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Sorry, the Seahawks have the best front 7 in all of football.

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They can be one of the best front 7, but they are very undersized. Where was Indy's front 7? Same type deal... great speed but undersized.

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The worry I have is that we didn't run particularly well in that game. The inability to close it out with the run burned us there. Obviously the interception made the game much closer that it should have been but had Pittsburgh ran the ball well in the second half it wouldn't have been close anyway.

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Sorry, the Seahawks have the best front 7 in all of football.

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Hi Jack,

You're insane.

Best,

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PS: one of the teams w/ a better front 7 happens to be the one Seattle will be playing Sunday.

The Patriots - at the end of the season, when they were finally healthy - had the best front 7 in the NFL.

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They can be one of the best front 7, but they are very undersized. Where was Indy's front 7? Same type deal... great speed but undersized.

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Indy's front 7 was below average in run defense.

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Hi Jack,

You're insane.

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I get that a lot, but more often than not I get to rub it in people's faces.

Seattle is very good at stopping teams in short yardage situations and stopping RBs behind the line. they give up a decent amount of long runs, but nothing preposterous. Neither Willie nor Jerome will have much success, but Willie might break one as is his nature to do so.

Set the O/U on Pitt's rushing yards on the first half.

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Set the O/U on Pitt's rushing yards on the first half.

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that's very hard to do, especially given the way Pitt has come out throwing recently. I can only guess as to what their gameplan will be.

but, I'll play. somewhere around 50 is probably about right.
Seattle should have more. But that doesn't mean their front 7 is better.

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Almost certainly under 50. Pit has sucked at running the ball for the last 5 or so weeks.

I expect them to get like 35~39 yrds.

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They can be one of the best front 7, but they are very undersized. Where was Indy's front 7? Same type deal... great speed but undersized.

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The worry I have is that we didn't run particularly well in that game. The inability to close it out with the run burned us there. Obviously the interception made the game much closer that it should have been but had Pittsburgh ran the ball well in the second half it wouldn't have been close anyway.

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That's the thing. Pittsburgh's running game simply isn't that good, or to put it another way - it's above average but usually doesn't factor heavily in the outcome of the game. The running game helps them win by running the clock out but most of the time they get the lead through their defense and their passing game. We've seen that so far in the playoffs.

Problem from Pittsburgh is that the Seahawks actually have a better running game than the Steelers do.

This game is going to come down to Roethlisberger vs. the Seattle Secondary. If Seattle's smart about it, they'll be able to put up 20+ on Pittsburgh; they scored at will against Carolina and put up a good showing against Washington, two great defenses. Pittsburgh is an entirely different thing, but teams have demonstrated a way to beat it using max-protect.

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Almost certainly under 50. Pit has sucked at running the ball for the last 5 or so weeks.

I expect them to get like 35~39 yrds.

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mm you're probably right. 50 is too high, but I think 35-39 is too low. for JOA purposes, I'd like to change to 43 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If Seattle's smart about it, they'll be able to put up 20+ on Pittsburgh; they scored at will against Carolina and put up a good showing against Washington, two great defenses

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Carolina really looked like a broken team. SEA scored 37 total points in 2 games against the Redskins, 13 against Dallas, and 14 against Jacksonville, for an average of 16 PPG against these good defenses. really not that impressive. They put up a TON of points/stats in their 7 games against bad defenses, though.

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Hawks by at least 7. I think it might be over early. I don't think anybody understands just how good the Hawks offense or defense really is.

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My question is, what does Seattle have to do to get respect? I know they've had an easy schedule. I'm not arguing that. However, they've done fabulously since week 1...

If they win by 20, will people call them a great football team?

Simple question.

Josh

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Hawks by at least 7. I think it might be over early. I don't think anybody understands just how good the Hawks offense or defense really is.

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Dids,
I'll take SEA -7 for a large sum of money. just say the word

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24-17 Seahawks.

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That's the thing. Pittsburgh's running game simply isn't that good, or to put it another way - it's above average but usually doesn't factor heavily in the outcome of the game. The running game helps them win by running the clock out but most of the time they get the lead through their defense and their passing game. We've seen that so far in the playoffs.

Problem from Pittsburgh is that the Seahawks actually have a better running game than the Steelers do.

This game is going to come down to Roethlisberger vs. the Seattle Secondary. If Seattle's smart about it, they'll be able to put up 20+ on Pittsburgh; they scored at will against Carolina and put up a good showing against Washington, two great defenses. Pittsburgh is an entirely different thing, but teams have demonstrated a way to beat it using max-protect.

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This is so wrong. The Steelers "appear" to not be able to run the ball because the last 3 games have been against defenses that put 8 men in the box. The thought around the league (and very much so on this forum a couple months ago) was Ben couldn't a game with his arm.

Ben has proven he can and probably Seattle's biggest weakness in defense is pass protection. Because of this, I don't see Seattle packing the box. I see a lot of Cover 2 from Seattle, meaning the Steelers running game will have a ton of room to work with.

This is also why I think Jerome will have a big game. With < 8 men in the box, the Steelers want to run a power game.

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My question is, what does Seattle have to do to get respect? I know they've had an easy schedule. I'm not arguing that. However, they've done fabulously since week 1...

If they win by 20, will people call them a great football team?

Simple question.

Josh

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I don't think they've been getting a 'lack of respect' any more than a typical SB underdog. the spread is fairly close, compared to recent SB's.

as for your question, it depends how they win. the Patriots beat the Rams as 14 point dogs - I'm not sure that made them a great team as much as it made them a team who played a great game. They were certainly not nearly as good as the great Patriots teams that beat Philly or Carolina.

it's also somewhat a question of semantics - what do you consider a 'great' football team to be? Is there one every year?

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My question is, what does Seattle have to do to get respect? I know they've had an easy schedule. I'm not arguing that. However, they've done fabulously since week 1...

If they win by 20, will people call them a great football team?

Simple question.

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I don't think they've been getting a 'lack of respect' any more than a typical SB underdog. the spread is fairly close, compared to recent SB's.

as for your question, it depends how they win. the Patriots beat the Rams as 14 point dogs - I'm not sure that made them a great team as much as it made them a team who played a great game. They were certainly not nearly as good as the great Patriots teams that beat Philly or Carolina.

it's also somewhat a question of semantics - what do you consider a 'great' football team to be? Is there one every year?

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No, seriously, my question is if they will be considered a great team (not by me, but by public opinion at large).

As for them not getting disrespected...yeah, the spread is close, but its the 6 seed vs the 1 seed (granted, teh 6 seed is tremendous, and is the 6 seed only due to reg. season injuries, and they were favored on the road in the first round at the 3 seed, but still....)

Just wonderin what they gotta do....

Josh