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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.

So, what's the line?? tOSU -10 ??

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This thread is worthless until the rankings come out.

Please.

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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.

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Here is the thread I was looking for. I'm looking forward to the Leak vs Smith match-up. I think the opening line with be Ohio St by 9.5.

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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.


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Before the SEC championship game, Sagarin had Michigan's schedule as #13 and Florida's as #27.

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I'm a Michigan fan (check my posts), but it would be naive to think that Florida beating an 8th ranked team is not going to put them ahead of an idle Mich.

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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.


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Before the SEC championship game, Sagarin had Michigan's schedule as #13 and Florida's as #27.

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And Florida played the schedule against the toughest opponenet win percentage.

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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.


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Before the SEC championship game, Sagarin had Michigan's schedule as #13 and Florida's as #27.

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And Florida played the schedule against the toughest opponenet win percentage.

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yeah a [censored] of cupcake nonconference matches

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Including a 4 win UCF team....

It isn't like those cupcake matches didn't hurt the stat I mentioned...Not to mention their rivalry game against a .500 FSU that lowered that stat too.

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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.


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Before the SEC championship game, Sagarin had Michigan's schedule as #13 and Florida's as #27.

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yeah a [censored] of cupcake nonconference matches

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What does this have to do with the fact that Fla. played the schedule with the highest opponent win %?

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I don't really follow cfb that much, so what is up with the t before OSU?

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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.


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Before the SEC championship game, Sagarin had Michigan's schedule as #13 and Florida's as #27.

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And Florida played the schedule against the toughest opponenet win percentage.

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yeah a [censored] of cupcake nonconference matches

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What does this have to do with the fact that Fla. played the schedule with the highest opponent win %?

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because its artificially inflated, Michigan has a tougher SOS

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OSU -9.5 is my guess.

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[censored] college football.

The only matchups that would interest me are Tosu vs. USC/LSU.

So here's what I want to happen...

Florida plays Tosu and wins.
Michigan plays USC/LSU and gets blown out.
Whichever one of USC/LSU doesn't play Mich. kills whoever they play.

That would be hilarious.

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ESPN poll has most of america behind michigan now. only them SEC fanbois down south want FLA. its funny how the main things affecting the rankings this year are arbitrary things like, they didnt play the last 2 weeks or they lost later than the other guy(to a better team)

im glad USC lost though so that we can have this debate haha, what happened to the tosu vs usc thread punks!!!

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ESPN poll has most of america behind michigan now. only them SEC fanbois down south want FLA. its funny how the main things affecting the rankings this year are arbitrary things like, they didnt play the last 2 weeks or they lost later than the other guy(to a better team)

im glad USC lost though so that we can have this debate haha, what happened to the tosu vs usc thread punks!!!

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The poll is meaningless. The state of Florida has 2k less votes right now than the state of Michigan & we get a lot of anti votes from FSU/Miami fans. It's not that big of a deal.

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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.


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Before the SEC championship game, Sagarin had Michigan's schedule as #13 and Florida's as #27.

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And Florida played the schedule against the toughest opponenet win percentage.

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yeah a [censored] of cupcake nonconference matches

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What does this have to do with the fact that Fla. played the schedule with the highest opponent win %?

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because its artificially inflated, Michigan has a tougher SOS

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you are retarded, Michigan hasn't beaten anyone all year, except maybe Wisconsin. Michigan's SOS is severely inflated, Florida's is severely deflated because their opponents would be undefeated if they didn't beat the crap out of one another.

Top 12 SOS in the NCAA go to the 12 SEC teams, no computer calculations can figure that out since their only loses come against one another.

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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.


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Before the SEC championship game, Sagarin had Michigan's schedule as #13 and Florida's as #27.

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And Florida played the schedule against the toughest opponenet win percentage.

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yeah a [censored] of cupcake nonconference matches

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What does this have to do with the fact that Fla. played the schedule with the highest opponent win %?

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because its artificially inflated, Michigan has a tougher SOS

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I am blinded by my SEC fanboydom

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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.


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Before the SEC championship game, Sagarin had Michigan's schedule as #13 and Florida's as #27.

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And Florida played the schedule against the toughest opponenet win percentage.

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yeah a [censored] of cupcake nonconference matches

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What does this have to do with the fact that Fla. played the schedule with the highest opponent win %?

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because its artificially inflated, Michigan has a tougher SOS

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I am blinded by my SEC fanboydom

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You really don't think Michigan's SOS is inflated because of overrated Wisc & ND? BTW, he was being way sarcastic in the 2nd statement. That's not SEC fanboyism.

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It's clear that Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country. Kind of unlucky that the only team better than you is in your own conference.

Tomorrow should be fun.

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It's clear that Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country. Kind of unlucky that the only team better than you is in your own conference.

Tomorrow should be fun.

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extreme midwest bias on view for everyone

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It's clear that Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country. Kind of unlucky that the only team better than you is in your own conference.

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extreme midwest bias on view for everyone

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Name one team that has one loss, Michigan isn't favored over on a neutral field.

(Other than the Indianapolis Colts)

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I think it's important to note that the SEC is basically a vacuum since they don't schedule anyone out of conference. The SEC don't have a win over a top 20 team out of the SEC.

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I think it's important to note that the SEC is basically a vacuum since they don't schedule anyone out of conference. The SEC don't have a win over a top 20 team out of the SEC.

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Tennessee beat Cal

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I think it's important to note that the SEC is basically a vacuum since they don't schedule anyone out of conference. The SEC don't have a win over a top 20 team out of the SEC.

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Tennessee beat Cal

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Cal isn't a top 20 team...

Edit: Wow they are, whatever.

SEC is 1-5 vs the top 20, with their best victory coming versus Cal.

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They're 18th in the BCS.

*edit* Sry for being a nit. I completely agree with your point. SEC teams need to quit scheduling cupcakes for their ooc games.

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Tennessee beat Cal

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Cal isn't a top 20 team...

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SEC is 1-5 vs the top 20, with their best victory coming versus Cal.

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Obviously you don't realize how good Cal is. Nobody did last year either.

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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.


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Before the SEC championship game, Sagarin had Michigan's schedule as #13 and Florida's as #27.

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And Florida played the schedule against the toughest opponenet win percentage.

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yeah a [censored] of cupcake nonconference matches

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What does this have to do with the fact that Fla. played the schedule with the highest opponent win %?

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because its artificially inflated, Michigan has a tougher SOS

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you are retarded, Michigan hasn't beaten anyone all year, except maybe Wisconsin. Michigan's SOS is severely inflated, Florida's is severely deflated because their opponents would be undefeated if they didn't beat the crap out of one another.

Top 12 SOS in the NCAA go to the 12 SEC teams, no computer calculations can figure that out since their only loses come against one another.

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Well, you are close. The top 10 go to Pac 10 teams. But that's close enough.

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It's clear that Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country. Kind of unlucky that the only team better than you is in your own conference.

Tomorrow should be fun.

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Name one team that has one loss, Michigan isn't favored over on a neutral field.

(Other than the Indianapolis Colts)

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LSU. Oops. My bad. They have two losses.

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It's clear that Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country. Kind of unlucky that the only team better than you is in your own conference.

Tomorrow should be fun.

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Name one team that has one loss, Michigan isn't favored over on a neutral field.

(Other than the Indianapolis Colts)

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they shouldn't be favored over Louisville, but the public (and this forum) are some square donks who would be all over Michigan in the match-up.

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It's clear that Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country. Kind of unlucky that the only team better than you is in your own conference.

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Name one team that has one loss, Michigan isn't favored over on a neutral field.

(Other than the Indianapolis Colts)

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LSU. Oops. My bad. They have two losses.

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Michigan would be favored over LSU (though they probably shouldn't be).

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lol....Michigan favored over LSU....thank god for the public insuring bad lines

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Arkansas almost won the SEC without a [censored] quarterback. They line up McFadden and run Felix Jones in motion, either McFadden runs to the right or Jones on the reverse. Their qb is awful and they only throw to one receiever. Im so over the SEC, they are insulated b/c they play themselves only and the media gets all over their nuts.

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Name one team that has one loss, Michigan isn't favored over on a neutral field.

(Other than the Indianapolis Colts)

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they shouldn't be favored over Louisville, but the public (and this forum) are some square donks who would be all over Michigan in the match-up.

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omg. you're insane.

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With USC's loss, and Florida's tougher schedule than Mich, I guess this will be a done-deal by the time the votes are in and the BCS computers put Florida ahead of Mich.


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Before the SEC championship game, Sagarin had Michigan's schedule as #13 and Florida's as #27.

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What does this have to do with the fact that Fla. played the schedule with the highest opponent win %?

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because its artificially inflated, Michigan has a tougher SOS

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Again, Are you aware that it isn't "artificially inflated" by
4-7 UCF
2-9 Western Carolina (assuming they counted this one)
6-6 FSU (which actually HURTS that number, despite being FSU).
And then an 8-5 ConfUSA South.Miss.

Against D1A opponents: .609
Include WCU: .579

Explain to me which of the teams from that OOC list "artificially inflated" that statistic. I'll tell you, Southern Miss...who's win % was an astounding .615. (Wow that really "inflated it" up from the final .609 mark)

Then explain to me, please, which of these teams HURT that number. Well 2-9 surely if we include that. And even if we don't, a .500 FSU team and a 4-7 UCF surely knocked that overall number down a bit...

It just further shows how tough the In-Conference schedule of UF was....
Without their "cupcake schedule that artifically inflates Opp. Win %", UF's SEC opponents % was .651...


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Now, since I was talking Opp. Win % and you said that Michigan played a tougher schedule because it wasn't artifically inflated...Let's get down in there real quick.
Michigan's Big-10 Opp. Win% - .583
Michigan's total Opp. Win % - .579

You can talk about the other Strength of Schedule measures all you want. But if you're going to say something entirely wrong (inflation?), then you're going to get called on it.

Do you get me now?

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how insulated is the Big10? the conference rose as it's teams got to play each other instead of big East and div 1-AA non-conference opponents.

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It's pretty obvious that both the Big10 & SEC are insulated & have played virtually no good games out of conference this year. There is no objective way to determine if UM is better than UF.

But just watch the games and UM sure looks a HELL of a lot better than UF looks. Seriously, what do you think the line would be if UF played UM right now on a neutral field? 3? There is VERY little doubt in my mind that UM would be favored.

Seriously, LSU favored over Michigan? There is no insurance LSU will score more than 3 vs. UM (see Auburn). How are they going to cover the spread?

jvs

P.S. As an OSU fan, I'm hoping we get to play UF. I'm confident in having a better than break even chacne of beating UM or UF, but I feel getting to play UF would be a substantially easier game.

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Judging by the coaches poll, it looks like you'll get your wish.

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This thread is full of donkotards who have no concept of how to provide decent analysis of who would beat who. Why don't we leave it to the professionals?

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It's official. What's the line? OSU -??

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OSU -13.5