3 barrel this one right?
 

villian is 30/19... not too keen on his post flop tendencies, but isnt 3rd barrel here pretty mandatory?? His range is pretty narrow by the river... comments?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($426.80)
Hero ($216.85)
MP ($315)
Button ($174.90)
SB ($290.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, BB calls $15.

Turn: ($47) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $36</font>, BB calls $36.

River: ($119) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, hero???

Re: 3 barrel this one right?
 

I wouldnt even cbet that flop cuz he peels with a huge range. That is also a bad turn card to 2nd barrel as it changed nothing. I suppose u can fire on the river I cant see how he will call unless he owns you with one pair or something.

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Check flop.

You have total crap, maybe only 4 outs.

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bet river so he folds the Ace high FD and maybe some small pair he picked up along the way.

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I wouldnt even cbet that flop cuz he peels with a huge range. That is also a bad turn card to 2nd barrel as it changed nothing. I suppose u can fire on the river I cant see how he will call unless he owns you with one pair or something.

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Uh i disagree, maybe because it looks different just as a posted hand rather than being at the table w/ villian but i dont think its standard at all to bet this flop if im gonna bet the turn... only critic i could see is bet more on the turn, but that hasnt been said...

Re: 3 barrel this one right?
 

I would check that turn, as played you probably want to be the river.

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His range is pretty narrow by the river



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I don't see his range as being all that narrow. Your betting tells him you don't have the 6. He could have very easily hit his set, and even top pair is good here, so I think you use your position to save a few bucks and live to fight another day. It looks to me as if his check is begging for the third barrell here.

I'd be interested to see the results here..........

Re: 3 barrel this one right?
 

Cbet is fine but this is not a good board to 2nd barrel.

Since you did 2nd barrel I don't hate a 3rd barrel but the mistake is definatly on the turn.

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AJdd FD i check behind...

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as played i think i'm betting that river a good portion of the time.

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His range is pretty narrow by the river



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I don't see his range as being all that narrow. Your betting tells him you don't have the 6. He could have very easily hit his set, and even top pair is good here, so I think you use your position to save a few bucks and live to fight another day. It looks to me as if his check is begging for the third barrell here.

I'd be interested to see the results here..........

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yes it is... he did not flop/turn a set... he 3 bets TT+ preflop...

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Check flop.

You have total crap, maybe only 4 outs.

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I'm interested in what your criteria is for not cbetting when you miss. Mid-cards that are very coordinated? What if they were high?

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... he did not flop/turn a set... he 3 bets TT+ preflop...

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Only you would know that for sure, as you know the outcome.....but I'm curious......Are we talking about the same hand here?

You bet out Preflop, so I'm wondering how you assume he 3-bets his small pocket pair here before the flop?

Don't get me wrong, I am not all that averse to firing the 3rd barrell here in this spot, and probably frequently do here, I just don't think its even close to a no-brainer.

Smells a little bit like a busted flushy, but even the A-6 busted flush hurts you. Not a bad idea to fire here, just not automatic. My humble opinion of course [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Do tell????

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AJdd FD i check behind...

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... he did not flop/turn a set... he 3 bets TT+ preflop...

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Only you would know that for sure, as you know the outcome.....but I'm curious......Are we talking about the same hand here?

You bet out Preflop, so I'm wondering how you assume he 3-bets his small pocket pair here before the flop?

Don't get me wrong, I am not all that averse to firing the 3rd barrell here in this spot, and probably frequently do here, I just don't think its even close to a no-brainer.

Smells a little bit like a busted flushy, but even the A-6 busted flush hurts you. Not a bad idea to fire here, just not automatic. My humble opinion of course [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Do tell????

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yeh, def not an insta bet, just think once i bet the turn i gotta bet this river... and i bet the turn because i think he would fold a non nut FD often and a couple other hands...