Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

yes after talking to cashmanbrian for ALONG time on aim
i backed him into the 530 yesterday
he loses
so about 2 hours later i was going to try and get some neteller money to put on full tilt poker
he says sure send me 6k on pokerstars and ill ship on neteller because i have over 50k on their
so i sent the 6k and i have proof imsolucky0 and gbmantis have already seen it

what can i do
i emailed stars to reverse and they said they cannot get into it

their has to be something done

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

punch him in the face

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

send me 2K on stars and ill get the problem fixed

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Why would he need backing for a 500 tourney? Didn't he play the 5k HORSE?

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I offered to stake him in the 530
man im so mad right now
does anyone have a contact number for the guy

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I can't even follow what the hell happened.

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

xxxxx: man please send my $ back
xxxxx: i am not rich
xxxxx: i am broke now because of you
CashmanSupport signed off at 3:11:53 PM.

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

the thing that strieks me as bizarre about this is cmb runs a, from what i understand, very successful business, so his online reputation is likely worth about 50x 6k. so it would be weird for him to do, but whatever.

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the thing that strieks me as bizarre about this is cmb runs a, from what i understand, very successful business, so his online reputation is likely worth about 50x 6k. so it would be weird for him to do, but whatever.

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thats what i was thinking. it seems like every table at stars has at least one CMB avatar. there must be more to the story than you side. maybe he sees thing differently, like you owed him money from the past. i dunno, just speculating. good luck i hope he did not scam you.

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

The transfers have already been completed.

If you sent the transfers as a result of a deal made amongst
yourselves,
then you must contact the player in question and resolve the issue
amongst
yourselves.

PokerStars will not get involved.


Regards,

Raul
PokerStars Security

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

Thank you for your email.

The transfer requests were submitted while you were logged in and
playing
in Tournament #36192212. If these were not requested by you, then you
need to figure out who while you were playing on your account managed
to
submit the transfers requests without your knowledge.


Regards,

Raul
PokerStars Security

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

im not a scammer either check my database i play the 2k and 5k on stars hu

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

This makes no sense unless you were scammed by someone pretending to be CashmanBrian.

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

No i sent to CashmanBrian on stars
and iw as talking to cashmanbrian3 on aim

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

I'm very confused. So you stake him in the 530 and presumably send him $530, right? Then he says he wants to pay you by neteller. Ok fine. Then for some reason you're going to send him $6k on stars and he'll transfer you back $6530 on neteller? This is beyond stupid, not only because the extra $6k doesn't need to be transferred but because (unless this has changed recently) neteller charges a 2% fee for person to person transfers and money on neteller can be put on stars for free in <1 minute. So I don't get how you fell for this scam. Also, I know nothing about cashmanbrian but it seems much more likely that you got scammed by someone impersonating him.

Steve

P.S. Please explain the extra $6k thing, as far as I can tell that was pointless and weird.

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This makes no sense unless you were scammed by someone pretending to be CashmanBrian.

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This was my first thought. Are you sure it was cashmanbrian and not someone with a name close to his?

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

youre sure it wasnt someone named like cashmanbrlan or some other sort of thing where they replace a character

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

steve,

from what I gather OP wanted a roll on FT and presumably didn't want to wait for the transaction to clear from Stars.

OP,
you probably got scammed. The real cashman has these IM nicks:
AIM: CashmanSupport
MSN: [email protected]
Yahoo IM: manuphan

In one post you say he's CashmanSupport on AIM, in another you say his nick was cashmanbrian3. Which one is it?

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

soulman, ok I can't read. But still the second transfer should be through full tilt not neteller sine neteller charges you 2% for interaccount transfers.

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

Steve, I think he means that the staking and the Neteller are separate.

He staked this guy in the 530 and the guy lost.

After this, he tells the guy that he wants to get some Neteller money to put on FTP. So the guy suggests that they do a Stars-Neteller swap, rather than OP having to wait a while to get $ on Neteller.

So OP thought this was a good idea and trusted him, thus sending him $6000 on Stars. The scammer then never sent the $6000 on Neteller (obv).

Thus the scam.

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

aspoker, yeah my first post is wrong because I can't read. In the second one I was just pointing out that the idea that led to the scam is stupid since cashmanbrian would have to pay fees by making the neteller transfer. (i.e. never send money through neteller) It seems unlikely that anyone who regularly transfers money wouldn't know that, making it very very likely that the guy OP was talking to was not actually cashmanbrian (and incidentally maybe should have made OP slightly curious/worried about the transaction?)

Steve

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it is the real cashmanbrian i know for a fact

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

I let CMB know about this post, I think he'll respond soon. Suffice it to say that it isn't true.

CMB is a tough W$ competitor of mine and I know he'll do a lot of stuff to get an edge over me or anyone else in the business, but one thing he isn't a blatant scammer.

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Yeah, I agree that OP was probably extremely careless. It seems very very probable that he was never talking to the real CashmanBrian at any point in his adventure. The Neteller/Stars idea and the way in which he handled it was poor.

I still hope he gets the money back, but I don't think the people of MTTc can really help him here.

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

OP, you have about 30 minutes to pop into this thread and present us with a clear story that doesn't change or I'm deleting this thread.

What is the name of the person you were talking to on AIM?
What is the name you sent money to on Stars?
Explain this Neteller thing again, so we can get it straight.

Thanks.

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

Name on AIM was CashmanBrian3

Stars $ went to Cashmanbrian (Iowa City)

He was sending me $6000 on neteller for $6000 on stars so i can put it on Full tilt

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

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I let CMB know about this post, I think he'll respond soon. Suffice it to say that it isn't true.

CMB is a tough W$ competitor of mine and I know he'll do a lot of stuff to get an edge over me or anyone else in the business, but one thing he isn't a blatant scammer.

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Yeah, but what would you do to get an edge over him? Maybe pose as CashmanBrian and scam people out of 6k so they will ruin his good rep on poker forums?

I'm on to you!

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

This seems to be a very alarming claim, but it always amazes me the idiots who want to present a story where they got scammed, and can't take 5 [censored] minutes to make a coherent and understandable post. If you want to be taken seriously then make a serious post.

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This seems to be a very alarming claim, but it always amazes me the idiots who want to present a story where they got scammed, and can't take 5 [censored] minutes to make a coherent and understandable post. If you want to be taken seriously then make a serious post.

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Some people just suck at the internet. They can't help it.

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I'm 100% sure that this didn't go down as OP is saying it did. I've got a full screen of IM's trying to explain to me what exactly happened, and as soon as I figure it all out I'll let CMB post and probably lock this thread.

- ZBT

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Man im telling the truth
i wish i had convos saved

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This seems to be a very alarming claim, but it always amazes me the idiots who want to present a story where they got scammed, and can't take 5 [censored] minutes to make a coherent and understandable post. If you want to be taken seriously then make a serious post.

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stevedapimp just sucks at the internet. He can't help it.

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FYP

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

Excuse the ignorance, but who is 'CashmanBrian'?

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

post a screenshot of your stars transaction history

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

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Excuse the ignorance, but who is 'CashmanBrian'?

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He buys/sells W$/T$. There are a ton of CMB avatars on Stars if you look.

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

Also, FWIW... sending $6K to anyone all at once before receiving a dime from them is just silly.

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Man im telling the truth
i wish i had convos saved

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Your case is less than compelling.

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

well my account is frozen now but post your email and ill forward you all the emails from pokerstars

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

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well my account is frozen now but post your email and ill forward you all the emails from pokerstars

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[email protected]

Re: Help CashmanBrian scammed me
 

is this his name??

Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:40:48 -0500
From: "PokerStars Cashier" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: [email protected]
Subject: Money Transfer

Hello LocaLegendWV,


We have transferred $3000.00 from your account to 'CashmanBrian' as per
your request.

Good luck to you both.


Regards,

PokerStars Cashier