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leomerr 11-24-2006 12:06 PM

Optimal VPIP
 
I just started playing 5/10 6 max and am running pretty bad. I wanted to know what an good range for VPIP for a TAG style. I think I may be playing too tight.

inferno 11-24-2006 12:26 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
100%

leomerr 11-24-2006 12:32 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
ha ha

danzasmack 11-24-2006 12:37 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
search function, look at other threads with stat posts. Those threads will be better than this one will turn out.

TomBrooks 11-24-2006 04:28 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
What site are you playing on?

Flintoff 11-24-2006 05:21 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
And what are YOUR stats?

Thorv 11-24-2006 05:25 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
...depends...

waffle 11-24-2006 05:35 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
I've done the research, and it's

23.7 +- .56

Enjoy

poker_n00b 11-24-2006 05:39 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
start at 23. the better you get the more u will lean towards 30vpip by defending your big blind more often and stealing more.

leomerr 11-25-2006 01:01 AM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
22.36/12.49/2.41 at full tilt

DCWildcat 11-25-2006 03:04 AM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
[ QUOTE ]
22.36/12.49/2.41 at full tilt

[/ QUOTE ]

You're horribly, egregiously tight. Anything greater than 23.7 +- .56 is spewy, and any less (including you), is UNBELIEVABLY nitty.

leomerr 11-25-2006 05:58 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
Why do I bother asking? I actually can't even tell who's sincere.

PokerSparky 11-25-2006 06:01 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
[ QUOTE ]
Why do I bother asking? I actually can't even tell who's sincere.

[/ QUOTE ]

Welcome to the forum.

leomerr 11-25-2006 06:04 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
I'm hoping it's just because i used the word "optimal." I probably should have just asked if my stats were way out of line.

Dagger78 11-25-2006 07:32 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
[ QUOTE ]
Why do I bother asking? I actually can't even tell who's sincere.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's because ther isn't really an answer to your question. Simply playing and raising the agreed "correct" precentage of hands will not make you a winning player. Most people would agree that under 20% is too tight and over 30% is too loose for 6-max(although there will always be exceptions). Anything between that and your postflop play will determine if you're a winner or not.

leomerr 11-25-2006 08:18 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
Thank you, Dagger. I understand what you're saying about postflop. I just started playing shorthanded after playing and winning full ring for two years, and I'm not used to losing. I know I had to loosen up to play shorthanded, but I just wanted to know if I was playing way too tight. It seems all the winners I've been playing with are LAGs.

Oink 11-25-2006 10:14 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
[ QUOTE ]
Simply playing and raising the agreed "correct" precentage of hands will not make you a winning player. Most people would agree that under 20% is too tight and over 30% is too loose for 6-max(although there will always be exceptions). Anything between that and your postflop play will determine if you're a winner or not.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well said

sharpie 11-25-2006 10:19 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
I believe it's now 34.1/23

TheOffice 11-25-2006 10:21 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
I used to play nitty 24/16/30%ATS and have been a decent winner. Since playing on the 28-30/19-21/38%ATS train, poker has become a serious problem.

excel 11-25-2006 10:53 PM

Re: Optimal VPIP
 
50 vp / 40 pfr

Went on to do over 90k hands at very good winrate. Player since moved up to very high limits on Party before the U.S players got banned.


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